subwaykid256

Would it be feasible to bring Service back and have it run from Metropolitan Av - Bay Ridge 95th st Cut Trains to Whitehall. Extend to 57/6 extend service to Forest Hills

I have an idea I would feedback but for de-interlining purposes As is but the branches are in the Rockaway's thus discontinued 168 St CPW local- 6 Av Ex 4 Av Exp. Terminates at Bay Pkwy rush hours. Weekdays 9 Av. Weekends runs local 145-168 BPB rush hours weekdays GC local CPW/ 8Av Exp Fulton Exp Lefferts Blvd late nights and weekends 8 av Lcl As is but CPW local As is but no Jamaica 179 St branch and skips 75 Av and Briarwood QBL local via 63 St Jamaica 179 St- Coney Island via 6 Av Lcl & Culver Exp As is with possible extension to 18 Av and/or Kings Hwy QBL Super Express Exp via 53 St. 8 Av Lcl WTC-Jamaica 179 St late nights and weekends use As is. Discontinued will be replaced by Which will run peak direction exp from Marcy Av-Bway Junction stopping at Myrtle. As is Metropolitan Av-Bay Ridge 95 St 4 Av lcl Astoria/Bway/4 AvLocal Astoria - CI via Sea Beach As is with being brought back to serve Brighton exp Discontinued QBL via 63 St /6 Av/Fulton St local Forest Hills 71 Av Euclid Av. Reactivating outer tracks at Hoyt-Schmerhorn As is although I am wondering if it’s possible to have the terminate at Queens Plaza because then I can discontinue the and have Run local service from Queens Plaza- Whitehall St

So Im working on De-Interlining my fantasy map. Im trying to decide which would be better So I have decided that the will replace the and become the Brighton Express and The will replace the at Sea Beach I currently have the running Bway/4 Av lcl from LaGuardia Airport to Bay Ridge-95 St And the Running from Jamaica-179 St to Red Hook Im trying to decide if the should stay at Bay Ridge and if the should go to Red Hook.

Some ideas I've been working on Bedford Pk Blvd or 145 St - Bay Ridge 95 St late nights shuttle from 95 St-36 St Weekdays only Brighton Express Astoria Ditmars - Euclid Av via new track on Flatbush & Fulton Forest Hills 71 St Av- Coney Island via Brighton Local Runs to Flatbush Av-Brooklyn College replacing . Weekdays only Weekends and Late Nights use shuttle bus or M7/M102 for 145 & 148 Sts To New Lots Av all times To Crown Heights Utica weekdays

While I understand theres a lot of Expansion projects that are more important than this. I want to know what are your guys take on stop removal/consolidation Personally the main idea i support is consolidating Hewes & Lorimer Sts on the and creating a Union Av stop with a transfer to Broadway

I like your idea for the train especially if we can get the to extend to Red Hook can terminate at 96 St/2 Av along with the future trains can go to Astoria with the going to 96 St/2 Av on weekends

My train would take over the as the Brighton Express and the would be the Brighton local going to Coney Island. The i propose would run from Brighton Beach then go over the Manhattan Bridge with the and then switch to the local tracks on 6 av and make stops until Forest Hills. of course only running on Weekdays The would become the and run via 2 ave until Lexington Av-125 St would run to Red Hook would run as a 4 Av local from DeKalb Av - Bay Ridge 95 St.

Some Ideas I've been working on cut back to City Hall. Debating on whether to send it via QueensLink 168 st - Bay Ridge 95 St via 125 St/2 Av/Nassau St line/4 Av lcl to Red Hook or send the to red hook Rockaway Park 116 St-WTC via Queenslink via QBL/53 St/8 Av lcl Metropolitan Av - 125 St/St Nicholas Av 6av lcl/2 av lcl

So heres what I've been thinking solely serves Far Rockaway skips Spring and 23 Sts and serves Lefferts Blvd 8 Av local WTC- Rockaway Park via 53 St local and Queenslink rerouted via 2 Av line and terminates at 125 St St Nicholas Av new express tracks at 2 Av then via 3 Av to Fordham Plaza 168 St via 125 St crosstown connection. Run via 2 Av then Nassau St line then via Atlantic Av with a new Station at Clinton St then via Transit Museum Tracks Fulton St lcl from Hoyt-Schemerhorn to Euclid Av still debating whether to leave the as the sole local service on Fulton St or have the run express also trying to decide whether can share QBL Express tracks

Extending the SAS to to 125 & Broadway would be a no-go due to density of 125 st past Amsterdam Av. I would terminate the at 125 & St Nicholas Av. Have the skip 135 St so the can merge via the local tracks then have it run with the where both will terminate at 168 St . My idea would involve a bottleneck similar to the at 149 GC so that the CPW tracks can connect to SAS. Then I would have the merge with the via Rivington & Allen Sts so it can use the unused tracks at Bowery, Canal and Chambers. (Still working on where I will send the after Chambers.)

So I originally proposed to have the run to WillyBrg. But then idk how much space it would take up from the . So I prefer the Nassau St route. I also proposed a Flushing Av Line for the Jackson Hts - Roosevelt Av/74 St Queens Blvd/74 St Maurice-Calamus Avs/69 St Grand Av/69 St Fresh Pond Rd/Flushing Av Metropolitan Av/Flushing Av Wyckoff Av/Flushing Av Wilson - Knickerbocker Avs/Flushing Av Broadway - Bushwick Av/Flushing Av Nostrand - Marcy Avs (Flushing Av) Bedford Av/Flushing Av Classon Av/ Flushing Av Clinton - Washington Avs/Flushing Av Gold - Navy Sts/Flushing Av Tillary St (intersection between Adams & Jay Sts) with OMNY Henry St/Pierrepont St with OMNY connects to Montague St tunnel where makes stops from Broad St-Bowery then connects to SAS Speaking of the I propose making them two separate lines. Maybe even making the teal so the can remain as is. So heres my idea after Broadway Junction I propose an El consisting of three tracks and four new local stations to be built on Jamaica Av where the will take over Bushwick - Pennsylvania Avs/ Jamaica Av Van Siclen Av/Jamaica Av Ridgewood Av/Jamaica Av Highland Blvd/Jamaica Av Afterwards The connects to Cypress Hills and resume service to Jamaica Center As for the it will make all stops between Broadway Junction and Crescent St. But instead of merging with the i also propose another three Track El via Fulton St-91 Av then via Rockaway Blvd to terminate at Cross Bay-Woodhaven Blvds with a transfer to the Eldert Lane/Fulton St-91 Av Atlantic Av/Rockaway Blvd Proposal for new LIRR Station 101 Av/Rockaway Blvd Ozone Park - Woodhaven - Cross Bay Blvd I propose only using Crescent St railing for reroutes and GO's

Okay then so how about Building a Transfer Between Bowery & Grand St to make up for the lost cross transfer. And if having the run to Brooklyn would be too difficult how about for Phase 4 the simply just terminates at Broad St with the lines. I also had an idea to have a Teal M line after Phase 3 as well but the current M is popular

Future De-interlining Proposal Second Avenue Subway Crosstown via 125 st. Terminating at 125/St Nicholas Phase 4 is scrapped and replaced by new tracks that will interline the Chrystie St Connection with the Downtown Nassau Line I propose after Houston St the makes stops Between Bowery and Broad St then use the Montague Tunnel where it will then run via Sea Beach line where as the runs Brighton Express while the runs to Bay Ridge terminates at Whitehall St with

Some de-interlining ideas I'm trying with but i need to know if I have the late night shuttle and The both terminating at Whitehall St at the same time or is the middle track the only option for terminating trains. now a 24/7 line Runs via Sea Beach terminates at 36 St/Atlantic Av-Barclays Center weekends/late nights As is as discussed running along 53 St as discussed running along 63 st and runs 24/7 Brighton Express runs weekdays only As is Runs late night shuttle pattern in weekends as is but 24/7 service as is but if necessary shorter frequencies to make room for on weekends As is and higher frequencies Harlem-148 St - Flatbush Av Brooklyn College. Weekend service cut back to South Ferry Station and shorter frequencies if needed Extended to New Lots Av at all times Rerouted to Crown Hts Utica Av weekdays. (May run on Future Utica Av line) Weekend/Late night service the same

Seems like the only de-interlining we can agree on is swapping the for 53 st and to 63 st. but unfortunately the MTA wont do it because it means having to make the run 24/7. Past Myrtle/Delancey-Essex. I mean isnt there anyway we can cut back the on weekends to Whitehall/34 st so the can run to Queens during weekends. but then again the does have the better transfer points which i understand why its given preference. Same with De-interlining plans with the . I think the would make a good alternative for either Sea Beach or Bay Ridge if were putting both the at Brighton since they prefer Bway lines over 6 av. But the MTA doesn't seem willing to let the or run on weekends.

Some deinterlining ideas I propose via 53 St via 63 st to Brighton West End new Queenslink line and cut back to City Hall/Whitehall St Bay Ridge as is to Flatbush Av to Utica Av line to New Lots Av to Crown Hts - Utica Av or to Extension to Bway Junction via Eastern Pkwy

yes why not make both 36th and Woodhaven into express stops. Especially if we can get the QueensLink going and send the to the Rockaways

Maybe having the run to Bay Ridge would be a better idea. Whether its through Phase 3 and maybe using the Nassau St Line or Phase 4 Through Montague.

Good point so how about to make things simpler i leave the as is now. and simply terminate the At City Hall where there will be a new transfer to the via City Hall/Park Place/Chambers St. The on Weekdays can be extended to Bay Pkwy via Montague 4 Av lcl and on weekends the is cut back to City Hall. Late nights no service runs local from Jamaica Center - Bay Ridge 95 St. And yes City Hall station at Night will be closed as there is the new connection to the . When Phase 3 of SAS is complete where the will run to Forest Hills 71-Av via 2 Av. and turn on 63 St with the . And what if I cut the and cut service to make room for the to go to Jamaica Center.

So heres an idea. This idea is very experimental so I still plan to refine my ideas but here we go To Jamaica Center - Bay Ridge 95 St via new Church St connection QBE via 53 St To Forest Hills 71 Av - Coney Island Stillwell Av QBL via 53 St 6av LCL Culver LCL (Taking over the as 3 Borough Local) Late nights extended back to Jamaica 179 St Restored weekday service to Forest Hills 71 Av Weekends/Late Night cut back to Court Sq Middle Village - 2 Av/96 St. (Ultimately when Phase 3 is complete my idea is to send to 125 St/Lex via 2 Av) Weekends cut to Essex St Late Nights Myrtle Av Shuttle to Astoria - City Hall (Weekdays Only) Jamaica - 179 St - Bay Pkwy QBE via 63 St Bway LCL 4 Av LCL via West End. Weekends cut to City Hall

Honestly I think having the to Montague would be a great idea because that way you can diversify the service going into Brooklyn. And cut the train short.

Sorry for late reply but I'm thinking a 4 track line whole way through and once it goes to queens it can be elevated

Lines Add Custom Line Route Diagram Jackson Hts - Roosevelt Av Queens Blvd / 74 St Maurice - Calamus Avs/ 69 St Grand Av/ 69 St Fresh Pond Rd/ Grand Av Metropolitan Av/ Flushing Av Queens Wyckoff Av/ Flushing Av ( via Jefferson St) Wilson - Knickerbocker Avs/ Flushing Av (local) Broadway - Bushwick Av/ Flushing Av (express) Nostrand - Lee Avs/ Flushing Av ( via Marcy Av) (express) Bedford Av/ Flushing Av (local) Classon Av/ Flushing Av (local) Clinton - Washington Avs/ Flushing Av (local) Carlton Av/Flushing Av (local) Gold - Navy Sts/ Nassau St (local) Tillary St/ Jay St-Flatbush Av Ext (via Jay St Metrotech) (express) Henry St/Remsen St (via Borough Hall) (express) Manhattan Hanover Sq (express) Seaport (express) Chatham Sq (local) Grand St (express) 2 Av - Houston St 14 St/ 2 Av (express) 23 St (local) 34 St/2 Av (local) 42 St/2 Av 55 St/2 Av to Astoria Park via 63 St 72 St/2 Av 86 St/2 Av 96 St/2 Av (local) 106 St/2 Av (local) 116 St/2 Av (local) to Co-Op City (local) 125 St - Lexington Av ( via 2 Av) 125 St - Lenox Av 125 St - St Nicholas Av to Co-Op City (local) Co-op City - Bartow Av Eastchester Rd/Gun Hill Rd Boston Rd/Gun Hill Rd (local) Bronxwood Av/Gun Hill Rd (local) White Plains Rd/Gun Hill Rd 204-205 St/ Webster Av (local) Bedford Park Blvd - Botantical Garden/Webster Av (express) MNR Fordham Rd - Fordham University/ Webster Av (express) MNR 183 St - Junior/ 3 Av (local) Tremont Av/ 3 Av (express) Claremont Pkwy/ 3 av (local) 168 - 169 Sts/ 3 Av (local) 163 St - Boston Rd/ 3 Av (local) 156 St/ 3 Av (local) 149 St-Westchester Av (express) 3 Av - 138 St (express) Manhattan 125 St/2 Av express Broadway Junction - Astoria Park via 2 Av Broadway Junction ACJL Chauncey St/Broadway J Halsey St/Broadway J Gates Av/Broadway J Kosciuszko St/Broadway J Myrtle Av/Broadway/JM Flushing Av/Broadway JMT Lorimer St/Broadway JMG Hewes St/Broadway JMG Marcy Av/Broadway JM Manhattan Delancey St - Essex St FJM 2 Av - Houston St FT 14 St/2 Av LT 23 St/2 Av (local) 34 St/2 Av (local) 42 St/2 Av 55 St/2 Av Roosevelt Island 21 St - Queensbridge/41 Av Long Island City - 36 Av/21 St Broadway/21 St 30th Av/ 21 St Astoria Park - 27 Av

Train Extension Proposal Close 148 St. Extend 145 St into a full platform Extend to Bronx via Exterior St & Jerome Av 161 St - Yankee Stadium/ Jerome Av 167 St - Shakespeare Av/ Jerome Av 170 St / Edward J Grant Hwy Featherbed Lane / University Av Tremont Av/ University Av Burnside Av - Bronx Community College/ University Av 183 St / University Av Fordham Rd / University Av Turn West on Kingsbridge Rd Sedgwick Av-Kingsbridge Rd Turn right on Bailey Av Terminal. Kingsbridge 230 St

One idea I was thinking was to send the via 2nd Av then after 42 St. Link up with 53 St tunnel and continue to Forest Hills Or send the to 2nd Av then go via 63 Street. Then go via 21 St to Astoria Park