mark1447 Posted June 15, 2009 Share #1 Posted June 15, 2009 Hey guys, i notice on Wikipedia that there is a study about having the NH run down the Northeast Corridor(NEC) from New Rochelle to Penn Station. When will this ever happen, and are they planning to opening up stations along the Bronx. I saw a Track map of the MNR and it showed the NH has some stations along the NEC if thats true? (ill load the track map later). Thanks guys =)! NH= New Haven Line(Metro-North/Conn.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted June 15, 2009 Share #2 Posted June 15, 2009 As several people have stated, the M8 cars carry the possibility of MNRR all-electric access to NYP. They will be 3rd rail/pant, so they could in theory access NYP as long as their 3rd rail shoes are retractable. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted June 16, 2009 As several people have stated, the M8 cars carry the possibility of MNRR all-electric access to NYP. They will be 3rd rail/pant, so they could in theory access NYP as long as their 3rd rail shoes are retractable. - A Sorry im a bit confused, is there a problem with the 3rd rail and NH? Just confusing a bit =X Thanks for ans btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted June 16, 2009 Share #4 Posted June 16, 2009 The state of Connecticut has a law which bans 3rd rails. That's why the New Haven line uses pantographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted June 16, 2009 Share #5 Posted June 16, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11 Safari/525.20) Well not even that, the bottom contact shoes would foul on the top contact 3rd rail, so pantograph or not the shoes must be retractable to enter LIRR territory, including the north river tunnels between ny and nj which has 3rd rail the entire length into NJ. They have the 3rd rail there to move dual power locos (the bilevel ones) & m# if needed in emergency. Also the 3rd rail has been a part of that system since PRR had 3rd rail from manhattan transfer before they ever began using overhead wire. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred G Posted June 16, 2009 Share #6 Posted June 16, 2009 The state of Connecticut has a law which bans 3rd rails. That's why the New Haven line uses pantographs. No, the law prohibits unprotected 3rd rail. At this point in time, 3rd rail would be an impractical replacement for catenary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted June 16, 2009 The state of Connecticut has a law which bans 3rd rails. That's why the New Haven line uses pantographs. Is hat the overhead lines that is in use before Pelham? And why dont they use 3rd rail? Cuz of grad crossing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted June 16, 2009 Share #8 Posted June 16, 2009 Is hat the overhead lines that is in use before Pelham? And why dont they use 3rd rail? Cuz of grade crossing? That's one of several reasons. It's dangerous to work around vs overhead wire. Bottom contact 3rd rail is much more exposed than top contact, because not only is it higher off the ground, but there is no easy way to put a cover over it without the cover contacting the electrified portions accidentally. I believe they passed this law originally to block NYC from having unlimited electrified access to the NH system. It seems to have worked, but now that NYC/PC is gone we are presented with the issue of dual collection, or 3rd rail/diesel. Fred if you could shed more light on this would be great. :tup: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted June 17, 2009 That's one of several reasons. It's dangerous to work around vs overhead wire. Bottom contact 3rd rail is much more exposed than top contact, because not only is it higher off the ground, but there is no easy way to put a cover over it without the cover contacting the electrified portions accidentally. I believe they passed this law originally to block NYC from having unlimited electrified access to the NH system. It seems to have worked, but now that NYC/PC is gone we are presented with the issue of dual collection, or 3rd rail/diesel. Fred if you could shed more light on this would be great. :tup: - A Yeah but NEC has it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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