A Brief History of the R33ML Redbirds

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When The R33 Main Line Cars got Rebuilt, The higher numberd ones got Rebuilt 1st, (9076-9305) 1987-1989 When Rebuild (In House at 207th st yard) These R33's got Rebuilt with Wabco Air Brake Packages and Vapor HVAC Units and They had Bage Doors and the Traction Motors were GE( If you ride a R62, Just think of this Bacth of R33's), The 2nd Bacth that got Rebuilt was (8806-9075) 1989-1992 These Cars have NYAB Equipment with stone safety HVAC Units and had the GE-westinghouse Traction Motor mix sound, and they Have silver doors like the R32's, I rode these cars in the Past and on Fan Trips and to Me The R33ML's got Rebuilt the same way as the R32's got rebuilt but the only difference is the Numbers, The R33's got Rebuilt in order while The R32's didn't, Just like the R32 Phase I/II's, And I also remember how fast the R26/28's were, They were among the Fastest rather than the R29,33 and R36ML's, and the R26's/28's were the Last ACF cars that were built, I rode those more when they were on the and I rerember when they swaped the R26/28's to the while the R33ML cars went to the back in 1996, The Opposite happend in 2001 when both R26/28's were retireing, The Last R26/28 operated in service on October 7th,2002, If I was my age back then I would have rode those cars for the last time, The Last time I rode the R26/28's was back in 2001 after going to the Bronx zoo, I got it on the , I was suprized but the TA does have 3 pairs of R26/28, 2 pairs of R26's 7770/71 (at 207th st Might be reefed former School Car) and I think 7774/75, And a R28 Pair 7924/25 both R26/28 Pairs are at Unoinport yard (E180 st Yard), All of the Older R26/28 and half of the GE R29's were at 239th while the other half of GE R29's and R33ML's were at E180th st yard, Green ment the Train Belongs to 239th st, Black ment that the train Belongs to E180th st, The R26's and R28's were Rebuilt in 1986-87 by MK. Here's a list of the Redbird Car Assignment:

 

R26/28's were Based out of the 239th st Yard and they were on both (2)/(5) lines 1987-1996 mostly on the , 1997-2002 Mostly on the ,

 

R29's, Westinghouse R29's were Based out of Westchester for the 8570-8685, 1987- april 2002 GE R29's were based out of both 239th and E180th 8688-8805 for the and lines until 2002

 

R33ML's were Based out of E180th st 8805-9215 (2)/(5)and 9216-9306 was based out of the Jormone ave yard for the

 

The R33WF Singles and the R36WF were based out of Corona yard for the 1963-2003

Note atleast 50-70 R36WF Redbirds were on the until 2001 for reefing

 

The R36ML were all based out of Westchester until 2001 then they were transferd to Corona to Replace the beat-down R36WF fleet, The R36ML retierd in the Fall of 2003, 9542/43 is a Museum Pair and it is stored.

 

The TA treid to replace the Rest of the R36WF Fleet with Mainline R33's but they did not work well with the R33WF Singles so that's why the R36WF Fleet stayed until 2003, The R36WF fleet was due by 2002 but due to the Problem with the Mainline R33's from the not working well with the R33 Singles, that's why the R36WF fleet stayed until 2003, The Mainline Cars were supoosed to stay until october of 2003.

 

Also E180th sent 8836-8857 to Jormone yard to the .

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The TA treid to replace the Rest of the R36WF Fleet with Mainline R33's but they did not work well with the R33WF Singles so that's why the R36WF Fleet stayed until 2003, The R36WF fleet was due by 2002 but due to the Problem with the Mainline R33's from the not working well with the R33 Singles, that's why the R36WF fleet stayed until 2003, The Mainline Cars were supoosed to stay until october of 2003.

 

 

 

How strange.:confused: How exactly did the Mainline R-33s "not work well" with the World's Fair R-33s? Brake problems? Electrical problems? Etc.? I'm confused. How could they not work well together if both car classes are R-33? (I guess the (NYCT) must have screwed up when rebuilding them). This whole 'brief history' is very interesting, though.:tup: Maybe you could also do a "Brief History of the R36ML Redbirds" as well?

[Princelex 266]

That was a very interesting read right there. Thanks for sharing that with us.

[R421969 0]

man...reading that makes me feel like I only know like 2% of anything about the subway lol makin me feel dumb...but no its interesting...more for me cause I dont live in the bronx so the 2 3 4 5 6 seemed cool back then with all the redbirds. They had a really good run, and they lasted a long time, longer then their potential lifespan.

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How strange.:confused: How exactly did the Mainline R-33s "not work well" with the World's Fair R-33s? Brake problems? Electrical problems? Etc.? I'm confused. How could they not work well together if both car classes are R-33? (I guess the (NYCT) must have screwed up when rebuilding them). This whole 'brief history' is very interesting, though.:tup: Maybe you could also do a "Brief History of the R36ML Redbirds" as well?

 

The reason Why they did not work together from what I heard Was because of the Brake packages, The R33WF singles were Rebuilt By Coney Island in 1985, The R33ML 9200 series were Rebuilt in 1988 by 207th st yard and Plus the R33ML had A/C, The R33 Singles did not and the The R33WF singles had Old SMEE Technology.

[kawasaki3 0]

who remember that R33Wf - R36WF that light go turn ON - turn OFF

by itself. why would that happen to R33Wf - R36WF. not

R26 - R29

[kawasaki3 0]

you forgetting one thing R29 #8686 - #8687 were based out of Westchester

yard?