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Is there any bellmouths or unused trackways on the IND, such as the 6th Avenue, 8th Avenue, Concourse, 63rd Street, Archer Avenue, Crosstown, Culver, Fulton Street, Rockaway, and the Queens Boulevard lines?

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Didn't you ask this same question on subchat and people told you about bellmouths all over the system. Just go back over that thread and pick out ones located on the IND.

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What is a bellmouth? I googled it and didn't get a clear answer

 

It's a tunnel opening with no track.

 

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Thanks.

 

So yes I have seen some bell mouths on the 8th Ave line.

 

Where? The only ones that I know about are at Worth Street and 42nd Street Lower Level.

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Where? The only ones that I know about are at Worth Street and 42nd Street Lower Level.

 

I think I've seen them up by 145th or 135th or 155th (somewhere up there) where the Concourse line merges on. I'm not so sure about that though.

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145th and 135th have no bell mouths. Maybe a very small one to hold some track material, but definitely not in the full scale of a hidden rail line.

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Okay, here we go

 

1) after 145th st on the uptown side (C)

2) the old lead to lower 42nd street (A)(C)(E) southbound

3) The bellmouth to the worth st. line to bk on the (E) after Canal st. southbound

4) bellmouth after jay st on the (A)(C) northbound

5) the tail track after 205st (D)

6) side track on the southbound (:((D) after 170st

7) the other half of 63rd/Lex (F)

8) after Roosevelt Ave. the ramps to the IND second terminal (E)(F)(G)(R)(V)

9) between Queens Plaza and 36th St the 5th track that turned (G)s back in the day

10)after Church Ave the leads to a small yard and Ft. hamilton/SI connection (F)(G)

11)middle track at Bedford ave (G)

12)stub end track after Grant ave. on the (A) lead to possible 76th St. station.

13)middle tracks after the connection to the Rockaway line (A)

14)Prior to the Fulton Ave line the rockaway LIRR Line

15)unused tracks except for testing between Howard Beach/Broad Channel (A)

16)Hammels Wye the long single track between both Far Rock/ Rock Beach Branches (A)

17)After 2nd Ave (F) the middle express track continue

18)Also after 2nd Ave the chrystie St. connection to the Nassau St./Jamaica line.

19)Finally after Jamaica Center extra long relay track crossover on the (E).

 

Hope this helps.

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Okay, here we go

 

1) after 145th st on the uptown side (C)

2) the old lead to lower 42nd street (A)(C)(E) southbound

3) The bellmouth to the worth st. line to bk on the (E) after Canal st. southbound

4) bellmouth after jay st on the (A)(C) northbound

5) the tail track after 205st (D)

6) side track on the southbound (:((D) after 170st

7) the other half of 63rd/Lex (F)

8) after Roosevelt Ave. the ramps to the IND second terminal (E)(F)(G)(R)(V)

9) between Queens Plaza and 36th St the 5th track that turned (G)s back in the day

10)after Church Ave the leads to a small yard and Ft. hamilton/SI connection (F)(G)

11)middle track at Bedford ave (G)

12)stub end track after Grant ave. on the (A) lead to possible 76th St. station.

13)middle tracks after the connection to the Rockaway line (A)

14)Prior to the Fulton Ave line the rockaway LIRR Line

15)unused tracks except for testing between Howard Beach/Broad Channel (A)

16)Hammels Wye the long single track between both Far Rock/ Rock Beach Branches (A)

17)After 2nd Ave (F) the middle express track continue

18)Also after 2nd Ave the chrystie St. connection to the Nassau St./Jamaica line.

19)Finally after Jamaica Center extra long relay track crossover on the (E).

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

Umm FYI the (D) has tracks north of 205th, thats where it gets relayed..

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Thanks.

 

So yes I have seen some bell mouths on the 8th Ave line.

Actually a bellmouth is an opening in the tunnel that is a provision for a new line to be built. The first one that comes to mind for me is the one on the (F) before Lexington - 63rd for a provision for a connection to SAS Phase 3.

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Okay, here we go

 

1) after 145th st on the uptown side (C)

2) the old lead to lower 42nd street (A)(C)(E) southbound

3) The bellmouth to the worth st. line to bk on the (E) after Canal st. southbound

4) bellmouth after jay st on the (A)(C) northbound

5) the tail track after 205st (D)

6) side track on the southbound (:((D) after 170st

7) the other half of 63rd/Lex (F)

8) after Roosevelt Ave. the ramps to the IND second terminal (E)(F)(G)(R)(V)

9) between Queens Plaza and 36th St the 5th track that turned (G)s back in the day

10)after Church Ave the leads to a small yard and Ft. hamilton/SI connection (F)(G)

11)middle track at Bedford ave (G)

12)stub end track after Grant ave. on the (A) lead to possible 76th St. station.

13)middle tracks after the connection to the Rockaway line (A)

14)Prior to the Fulton Ave line the rockaway LIRR Line

15)unused tracks except for testing between Howard Beach/Broad Channel (A)

16)Hammels Wye the long single track between both Far Rock/ Rock Beach Branches (A)

17)After 2nd Ave (F) the middle express track continue

18)Also after 2nd Ave the chrystie St. connection to the Nassau St./Jamaica line.

19)Finally after Jamaica Center extra long relay track crossover on the (E).

 

Hope this helps.

 

4. That is not a bell mouth, it is open space of the (F) line tracks. Also many of the places you have listed are known areas and are not bell mouths. As subwayguy said a bell mouth is a tunnel where there is no track. Alot of the places you listed are lay-up tracks or yard leads and unused tracks.

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Is there any bellmouths or unused trackways on the IND, such as the 6th Avenue, 8th Avenue, Concourse, 63rd Street, Archer Avenue, Crosstown, Culver, Fulton Street, Rockaway, and the Queens Boulevard lines?

 

read this question word for word before attacking then you won't sound ludacris. please lets be civilized boys alot of time on your hands to attack on a computer. lets see youBoys pull that off in public!:mad:

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read this question word for word before attacking then you won't sound ludacris. please lets be civilized boys alot of time on your hands to attack on a computer. lets see youBoys pull that off in public!:mad:

 

I am being very clam, I was simply saying thatthe area north of Jay Street is open space. I did not see that the OP also wanted unused track ways and how is anything I said ludacris? Where was the attack and why is it so important anyway?

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Queens Blvd is full of them. There's a big one right after Woodhaven Blvd, heading eastbound (towards Forest Hills + Jamaica)

 

btw using words like "attacking" to respond to other's helpful comments in your posts makes your own post sound, in your words, ludicrous.

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isnt there one after the woodhaven blvd station on the (R) and (V)

 

Yes there is, that station has provisions to be made into an express station. There are track ways on the out side of the station.

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No, in short the only way to get to it is through unmarked door ways. It would have been a seperate station from Broadway on the (G) just like 5th Ave on the (7) is seperate from 42nd Street Bryant Park on the (:((D)(F)(V).

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Yeah, you do ask extremely vague questions...

 

Sorry.

 

isnt there one after the woodhaven blvd station on the (R) and (V)

 

I think there is also one just east of the 63rd Drive-Rego Park station on the (R) & (V).

 

Okay, here we go

 

1) after 145th st on the uptown side (C)

 

 

Well this is new. I never noticed it before....

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No crossover there AFAIK. Just two train length layups on both tracks under 160th St.

 

 

 

19)Finally after Jamaica Center extra long relay track crossover on the (E).

 

Hope this helps.

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