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Wasn't R142's supposed to run on the (3) then for some reason it went to the (4) instead?

They were, but it makes sense putting the R142/As down the 4 because the cars have larger doors, which are able to cope with the overcrowding. If you rode a R62 on the 4, and then rode a R142 on the 4 (you could do that 2 years ago), you would know the difference.

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The difference between an R142A and a "R142S" is the same as the R32 to R32A: none, just a different contract. So I don't see why anyone brought up "R142S" to begin with... its pointless. Moving on...

 

It was brought up to disspell common misinformation before it got posted to the forum, because a lot of people read these and learn from them, so anyone that posts has a responsibility to make sure that anything that is posted as fact is correct and they are not posting wrong information.

 

Opinions they can post whatever they want. But facts have to be right. If you don't know, ask. If you do, post away.

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That reason: Mayor Bloomturd

 

Haha. I think uniformity had something to do with it as the entire Lexington Line is NTT. The R62s rarely appeared back then b/c the R142As were still rolling in and that extra trains were needed during the rush. Now you don't see any more R62s b/c the R142As solved that problem.

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Haha. I think uniformity had something to do with it as the entire Lexington Line is NTT. The R62s rarely appeared back then b/c the R142As were still rolling in and that extra trains were needed during the rush. Now you don't see any more R62s b/c the R142As solved that problem.

 

True, but you used to see R62's on the (4) as recently as 2008, after all new techs had been delivered...sometimes on the weekends too. Originally the plan was to have half and half NTT/R62 on the (3) and (4), but "our fearless leader" wanted more new techs on the east side so that is exactly what happened.

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True, but you used to see R62's on the (4) as recently as 2008, after all new techs had been delivered...sometimes on the weekends too. Originally the plan was to have half and half NTT/R62 on the (3) and (4), but "our fearless leader" wanted more new techs on the east side so that is exactly what happened.

 

As much as I dislike that guy, I don't think his opinion played much of a part here. I also remembered that the R62/As have a seat problem in that unlike the R44s-R68As, they have less seats than the A division bench seaters. I guess the T/A wanted more seats or more spaced seats for the heavy eaters (no offense) on the 4.

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As much as I dislike that guy, I don't think his opinion played much of a part here. I also remembered that the R62/As have a seat problem in that unlike the R44s-R68As, they have less seats than the A division bench seaters. I guess the T/A wanted more seats or more spaced seats for the heavy eaters (no offense) on the 4.

 

If you don't think his opinion played a part then you don't understand how political equipment assignments really are.

 

Also worth noting it's a well known fact Bloomberg often takes the (4), that was one of his big calling cards when he was a new mayor that "despite being a billionaire he was down to earth and rode the subway"

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No, it's not exactly about politics. The main reason is more of a capacity issue.

As we all know, there has been overcrowding on the Lex lines since the latter half of the last century. R62s have narrower doors than R142s. By having R142s, the 4 decreases the dwell times experienced while using R62s.

Trust me on this one, I'm a regular on the number 4 line. And I've ridden the R62 on the 4 a good amount of times. I can tell you that it is not really a political incentive.

 

And look at the 3 line, does it have much incentive in running R142s? It's fine running R62s.

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No, it's not exactly about politics. The main reason is more of a capacity issue.

As we all know, there has been overcrowding on the Lex lines since the latter half of the last century. R62s have narrower doors than R142s. By having R142s, the 4 decreases the dwell times experienced while using R62s.

Trust me on this one, I'm a regular on the number 4 line. And I've ridden the R62 on the 4 a good amount of times. I can tell you that it is not really a political incentive.

 

And look at the 3 line, does it have much incentive in running R142s? It's fine running R62s.

 

I am talking about the ORIGINAL reasons this happened, not the reasons used now to defend the status quo when people propose more nonsense car moves. The plan WAS for some of the new techs to go to the (3) line back when the new techs were brand new, but Bloomberg had a big hand in that not happening.

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1990s

r62s

(1)always,(3)always,(4)always,(5)rare trips untill 2001,&(6)sometimes,&

(9)always

Red Birds-(2)(5)(7)always & (4)(6)sometimes

2000's

r62s

(1)(3)always,(2)2002 only,(4)always until 2003. Now rare trips are made,

(6)until 2001,(7)2001-present,(9)until May 2005

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It's a little suspicious to pull R142's away from the (3). I hope this doesn't have nothing to do w/ the (3) running through Brownsville & East New York.

 

Untrue 100%

R142 (2)&(5)make LTD rush hours trips to New Lots Av &

R142/A (4) trains run there late nights!

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1990s

r62s

(1)always,(3)always,(4)always,(5)rare trips untill 2001,&(6)sometimes,&

(9)always

Red Birds-(2)(5)(7)always & (4)(6)sometimes

2000's

r62s

(1)(3)always,(2)2002 only,(4)always until 2003. Now rare trips are made,

(6)until 2001,(7)2001-present,(9)until May 2005

It was R62As that was running on the (3) & (6) before R142/A's came about.

 

But my other point

(1) stayed the same

(2) Redbirds to R142

(3) R62A to R62

(4) Redbirds & R62 to R142 & R142A

(5) Redbirds to R142

(6) Redbirds & R62A to R142A

(7) Redbirds to R62A

 

Now out of all IRT lines that either stayed the same or got an upgrade/new trains in the 21st century why does it got to be the (3) that haves to give up their orginal R142's to the (4) and go down from running R62A's to R62's

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1990s

r62s

(1)(3)always,(2)2002 only,(4)always until 2003. Now rare trips are made,

(6)until 2001,(7)2001-present,(9)until May 2005

 

The (4) no longer runs any R62's since around the time the new South Ferry Station opened. Also the (7)<7> didn't receive it's first set of R62A's until around February 2002. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

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The (4) no longer runs any R62's since around the time the new South Ferry Station opened. Also the (7)<7> didn't receive it's first set of R62A's until around February 2002. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I think it was the summer of 2001 that the 7 received its first R62A train. I remembered it as an express facing Flushing.

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1990-2001

R62s-(4)

R62As-(1)(3)(5)(rare trips)(6)(9)(S)(1991-present)

Redbirds-(2)(4)(5)(6)(7)(S)(1990)

2001-2003

R62s-(3)(4)

R62As-(1)(2)(2002 only)(3)(7)(9)(S)

Redbirds-(2)(01'-02')(4)(01'-03')(5)(01'-02')(7)(01'-03)

R142s-(2)(4)(5)

R142As-(4)(6)

2003-present

R62s-(3)(4)(rare trips)

R62As-(1)(7)(9)(until May 2005)(S)

R142s-(2)(4)(5)

R142As-(4)(6)

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