lirim Posted July 19, 2009 Share #1 Posted July 19, 2009 Is it true that the R160s might go to the ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted July 19, 2009 Share #2 Posted July 19, 2009 Probably not. It looks as if the rest of option II is going to Jamaica, ENY, and 40 cars are going to CIY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted July 19, 2009 Share #3 Posted July 19, 2009 R160s are not going to the (not even the , which shares cars with the ). By next year, Jamaica will get the last of the R160 order, and then the R32s will be pushed out by R46s. But bottom line, R160s are not going to the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfaner100 Posted July 19, 2009 Share #4 Posted July 19, 2009 If there is an R160A and R160B option 3 order, will they go to the Jamaica yard as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted July 19, 2009 Share #5 Posted July 19, 2009 THERE WILL NOT BE AN R160 THIRD OPTION ORDER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted July 20, 2009 Share #6 Posted July 20, 2009 If there is an R160A and R160B option 3 order, will they go to the Jamaica yard as well? There won't be a third option order. The A and C will most likely run R44 and R46s when the SMEEs are off. Don't expect any more else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lirim Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted July 20, 2009 then what future cars will the get??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted July 20, 2009 Share #8 Posted July 20, 2009 then what future cars will the get??? Well the R179s will start pushing out the R44s and later the R46s. But I don't know when that will happen because it all depends on when the MTA will get any money, either from funding or if they ever get back on their feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted July 20, 2009 Share #9 Posted July 20, 2009 then what future cars will the get??? A quick question, did you read what I posted earlier? The A and C will use R44s and R46s after the SMEEs are off those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 20, 2009 Share #10 Posted July 20, 2009 There won't be a third option order.The A and C will most likely run R44 and R46s when the SMEEs are off. Don't expect any more else. but u said in previous post that their could be a third supplement order... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted July 20, 2009 Share #11 Posted July 20, 2009 Even though we as passengers might enjoy that there are new trains on certain lines along with some older trains, it's a hassle to the crew as there are too many different types of trains to maintain in a yard. That's why so many lines originating from the yards share the same equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Line1291 Posted July 20, 2009 Share #12 Posted July 20, 2009 I dont think the line is run R44s for long cause dah....R179s are replacing it. Plus R179s are supposed to be running on the Queens Blvd Line so that's gonna push over R160s running on the Queens Blvd Line somewhere else (smh.....please correct me if im wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted July 20, 2009 Share #13 Posted July 20, 2009 but u said in previous post that their could be a third supplement order... No I did not I dont think the line is run R44s for long cause dah....R179s are replacing it. Plus R179s are supposed to be running on the Queens Blvd Line so that's gonna push over R160s running on the Queens Blvd Line somewhere else (smh.....please correct me if im wrong). Now that is some speculation. Now say, hypothetically, the R179s go to Jamaica. Some more R46s will get bumped to PITKIN, retiring the R44s from there. If there are enough funds for an additional option order (which is indicated in recent MTA documents), an additional option order of R179s will replace the R46s. Now that is just hypothetical, we just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted July 20, 2009 Share #14 Posted July 20, 2009 I dont think the line is run R44s for long cause dah....R179s are replacing it. Plus R179s are supposed to be running on the Queens Blvd Line so that's gonna push over R160s running on the Queens Blvd Line somewhere else (smh.....please correct me if im wrong). No. The R179s are suppose to push the remaining R46s on the F to the A in order to make the Queens Blvd express lines all NTT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted July 22, 2009 Share #15 Posted July 22, 2009 No. The R179s are suppose to push the remaining R46s on the F to the A in order to make the Queens Blvd express lines all NTT. Makes sense in general. But it's largely speculation, there's no tangible evidence that suggests that. Fact can contradict theory. My best advice is to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted July 22, 2009 Share #16 Posted July 22, 2009 I can safely say one thing, until the power problem south of liberty jct is finally put to rest, dont expect ANY NTTs on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcconnell Posted July 22, 2009 Share #17 Posted July 22, 2009 As for the 179's, why dosen't everyone just shut up already. The contract hasn't been awarded. Amen. Rumors and speculation only lead to misinformation. Not to mention there hasn't been any real information related to the R179s that's been released yet, and it probably won't be released for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 22, 2009 Share #18 Posted July 22, 2009 No I did not sry i read this topic like last week: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11506 And thought u said it could happen.. But anyways just wanna check, once the last set of R160A2/B2 hit, does this mean like the next day the moves into the future revenue fleet? Ex R179.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted July 22, 2009 Share #19 Posted July 22, 2009 Do I really need to say this again, THERE ARE NO POWER ISSUES on the Rockaway line. I've rode on a R160 on the Rockaway flats. I expereinced no issues whatsoever. As for the 179's, why dosen't everyone just shut up already. The contract hasn't been awarded. Let's get a few things clear here: One, there were power problems with the rockaway line and NTTs. Perfect example, the R110Bs How do I know? Engineers in New Car Engineering when I was an intern. Two, that's the rockaway flats. Ever rode it within rockaway? I have. Everyday and every other type of railcar That has seen revenue service down here for as long as you have been alive. Three, I understand your frustration in threads sometimes, but the use of caps shows yelling and when its after a quote, its usually towards that person you're quoting... Don't you ever yell at me. I never have ANY problem being corrected on a topic, but do it respectfully. Respect can be lost quicker than earned. You earned mine quick here in this forum, Don't push it. And I still say this with respect. Now as far as the R179s, you really can't be mad about that. Even I have read MTA produced public pdf files that not only mention R179s, but when to be expected (which is no time soon) and where they would go. Which was stated as the QBL. And in my opinion, that sounds logical. Why? It replaces the 46s which will most likely move to 207/Pitkin and begin to retire the 44s. But even though they may have stayed that, things can Change. The 08-13 budget only said they will purchase these cars by 2013. Nothing about being built by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted July 22, 2009 Share #20 Posted July 22, 2009 Thank you Far Rock Depot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Local Posted July 22, 2009 Share #21 Posted July 22, 2009 Far Rock Depot, I have been on an R160 all the way to Mott-Avenue-Far Rockaway. I saw zero issues in regards to the power supplied on those tracks. That whole "power issues" is something someone came up with to prevent NTT's on the line. TBH, and riders deserved the 160's more than any other line in the system. Yes someone is trying to stop NTT's on the and power issues were the best excuse they could come up with. You have any other conspiracy theories??:tdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted July 22, 2009 Share #22 Posted July 22, 2009 Yes someone is trying to stop NTT's on the and power issues were the best excuse they could come up with. You have any other conspiracy theories??:tdown: One person posted something about that,he posted that the power along the Rockaways is run by the LIPA and that it has bit more voltage over there. I do remember riding an R160 train over the Rocks when they were testing them on the A and i don't remember any problems they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 22, 2009 Share #23 Posted July 22, 2009 Yes someone is trying to stop NTT's on the and power issues were the best excuse they could come up with. You have any other conspiracy theories??:tdown: Agreed, I want an R160 on the , I hate those cars but the is the only line that The R160's do the best on, Every other line they suck. I hate the R160's but the does deserve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted July 22, 2009 Share #24 Posted July 22, 2009 it wasnt a conspiracy. We do have LIPA in Rockaway. and if you doubt that there were any problems with power distribution, look up the history of the R110B in Rockaway. You rode the train. I spoke with engineers. You went on observation. I went on Source. The problems may have been fixed by the time the first 160 came in. Its hard to tell. one train on those tracks may not do anything, but what about ten 160 sets drawing power?? ever thought of that? Study engineering. learn some facts. thats what i did. You dont have all the answers young jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted July 22, 2009 Share #25 Posted July 22, 2009 it wasnt a conspiracy. We do have LIPA in Rockaway. and if you doubt that there were any problems with power distribution, look up the history of the R110B in Rockaway. You rode the train. I spoke with engineers.You went on observation. I went on Source. The problems may have been fixed by the time the first 160 came in. Its hard to tell. one train on those tracks may not do anything, but what about ten 160 sets drawing power?? ever thought of that? Study engineering. learn some facts. thats what i did. You dont have all the answers young jedi. Wow, basically one person said that R160s give power problems and I believed him. Guess it's good to gather information from a reliable source before ypu drive into speculation and people start to flame the heck outta you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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