Abba Posted July 24, 2009 Share #1 Posted July 24, 2009 Trains extended to Bowling Green Late night, 12:01 AM to 5 AM Tue and Wed, Aug 11 - 12 Is this some sort of pilot project? Or just construction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted July 24, 2009 Share #2 Posted July 24, 2009 Trains extended to Bowling Green Late night, 12:01 AM to 5 AM Tue and Wed, Aug 11 - 12 Is this some sort of pilot project? Or just construction? I'm sure its construction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 24, 2009 Share #3 Posted July 24, 2009 Nah I really doubt pilot program. Pilot program would last for a month at least. Plus if this was during the day, it can delay the . Might be track work or station imrpovement around BK Bridge and /or City Hall Loop... Seems like a good G/O to do. Maybe Ill do it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt91 Posted July 24, 2009 Share #4 Posted July 24, 2009 I'm sure its construction! It has to be. First if it were a pilot program it would be during the day. Second the and couldn't all run together on 2 tracks south of BB during the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted July 24, 2009 Share #5 Posted July 24, 2009 It has to be. First if it were a pilot program it would be during the day. Second the and couldn't all run together on 2 tracks south of BB during the day Agreed i am 99% sure it construction. The only way the #6 should ever be extended to Bowling Green imo should be when the (5)is not running late nights. Down the road when the ecomony improves if the TA does not want to run the 24/7 to/from Manhattan extending the to Bowling Green late night like during the late 1960's/early '70's is not bad idea mainly for SI Ferry riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted July 24, 2009 Share #6 Posted July 24, 2009 This is very likely a GO. The loop probably needs a spruce up so it will be closed. This can't be a pilot project because you would have to send 3 subway lines down this section. I'm not sure if the section is capable of handling those three subway lines on a day-to-day basis. There could be some capacity issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted July 24, 2009 Share #7 Posted July 24, 2009 It may also have to do with the fact that trains are not running this weekend. The may be alleviating loss of service between Nowling Green and Brooklyn Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted July 24, 2009 Share #8 Posted July 24, 2009 It may also have to do with the fact that trains are not running this weekend. The may be alleviating loss of service between Nowling Green and Brooklyn Bridge. Oh, that is true. The entire line is getting knocked out from Dyre Avenue to Bowling Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted July 24, 2009 Share #9 Posted July 24, 2009 I heard that four guys with colorful last names are hijacking the lead car of the 6 and are holding 17 passengers ransom. However, because the MTA is so strapped for cash right now, they're going to give them two nights for a total of 10 hours to come up with one million dollars, or they'll have to issue another G.O. for the following week in order to re-hijack the car and shoot passengers. The MTA really went above and beyond what other rapid transit systems normally do and are letting everyone know about the hijacking ahead of time via G.O. so that no one will be on the train and the MTA can save that one million dollars. Ingenious. Truly brillant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 25, 2009 Share #10 Posted July 25, 2009 Oh, that is true. The entire line is getting knocked out from Dyre Avenue to Bowling Green It would be weird if the was to head into brooklyn for a weekend . Not gonna happen tho. I remember in Wiki they said 1 train did went into Bk, in early 2000 late 90s, if its a fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 25, 2009 Share #11 Posted July 25, 2009 That happened in 1985. The train originated from 3rd Avenue-138th Street and terminated at Atlantic Avenue. how come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt91 Posted July 25, 2009 Share #12 Posted July 25, 2009 It may also have to do with the fact that trains are not running this weekend. The may be alleviating loss of service between Nowling Green and Brooklyn Bridge. The GO is for August 11 and 12. The GO is for this weekend. But it would be a good idea to extend the this weekend if the isn't too congested due to the Brooklyn GO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62A 1991 Posted July 25, 2009 Share #13 Posted July 25, 2009 The GO is for August 11 and 12. The GO is for this weekend. But it would be a good idea to extend the this weekend if the isn't too congested due to the Brooklyn GO Some (4)s are short-turning at Bowling Green because of the total Eastern Pkwy EXP G.O., so there's no space for the to turn there, at least I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 25, 2009 Share #14 Posted July 25, 2009 The GO is for August 11 and 12. The GO is for this weekend. But it would be a good idea to extend the this weekend if the isn't too congested due to the Brooklyn GO why would the be needed to Bowling Green only becuz the isnt runnin? So if there was another G/o like this then the is needed? I dont think so. I doubt that the will head to blowing green and r62a 1991 is right there is a G/O on the ths weekend, so who knows if some (4)s might end at BG, maybe even tonite as it starts in like 2 hrs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted July 25, 2009 Share #15 Posted July 25, 2009 trains running to Bowling Green could be an interesting test for the service. It would be a shot in the dark of sorts, something out of the ordinary. But who knows? If it turns out to be effective and well-received, maybe it'll be a regular thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted July 25, 2009 Share #16 Posted July 25, 2009 That happened in 1985. The train originated from 3rd Avenue-138th Street and terminated at Atlantic Avenue. It was one rush hour train, and I don't know if it ran out to Atlantic because of capacity issues at the loops in Manhattan, a track-work related issue (I doubt), to swap equipment like the and trains currently do at Atlantic, or if it was to simply augment service and it just never caught on or caused congestion in the Joralemon Street Tunnel. On a side note, a conductor I know has worked trains which have terminated at Atlantic under emergency situations. He also worked the following the September 11 attacks when that train was extended to New Lots Avenue via the Clark Street Tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt91 Posted July 25, 2009 Share #17 Posted July 25, 2009 Some (4)s are short-turning at Bowling Green because of the total Eastern Pkwy EXP G.O., so there's no space for the to turn there, at least I don't think. why would the be needed to Bowling Green only becuz the isnt runnin? So if there was another G/o like this then the is needed? I dont think so. I doubt that the will head to blowing green and r62a 1991 is right there is a G/O on the ths weekend, so who knows if some (4)s might end at BG, maybe even tonite as it starts in like 2 hrs.. The isn't necessarily needed, it would just help the SI ferry riders. There's also a switch north of the station. If the runs less frequently than normal even with the increased # of trains originating at bowling green then the should be extended. If more (4)s at BG makes up for no (5)s then leave it alone. And Roku: if the is extended at all besides GOs it should only be at late nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 25, 2009 Share #18 Posted July 25, 2009 The isn't necessarily needed, it would just help the SI ferry riders. There's also a switch north of the station. If the runs less frequently than normal even with the increased # of trains originating at bowling green then the should be extended. If more (4)s at BG makes up for no (5)s then leave it alone. And Roku: if the is extended at all besides GOs it should only be at late nights You dont need the for any help down at Fulton, wall and BG, that just causes a little bit of a delay. And if an interlock isnt automatic along Canel to BK Bridge then more work for the tower to switch the From loop tracks to Eastern Pkwy Exp tracks.. The Is fine heading down to Loop. Besides, hardly any1 heads on the train or bus during weekend then weekday so there isnt any point at all. Now for the Aug G/O thats diffrent.. Only for ether track work via Loop or some other crap there. Just becuz the isnt running doesnt mean we need the to heal the down there. Is pointless.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted July 25, 2009 Share #19 Posted July 25, 2009 Extending the down there wouldn't be necessary. The and already have short headways, so a Pelham rider could just transfer to a or to continue their trip without a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted July 25, 2009 Share #20 Posted July 25, 2009 The isn't necessarily needed, it would just help the SI ferry riders. There's also a switch north of the station. If the runs less frequently than normal even with the increased # of trains originating at bowling green then the should be extended. If more (4)s at BG makes up for no (5)s then leave it alone. And Roku: if the is extended at all besides GOs it should only be at late nights If the were to be extended to Bowling Green on a normal schedule, the area immediately north of Brooklyn Bridge will become a bottleneck. Another bottleneck will surface at Bowling Green. The area is not able to handle additional trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted July 26, 2009 Share #21 Posted July 26, 2009 If the were to be extended to Bowling Green on a normal schedule, the area immediately north of Brooklyn Bridge will become a bottleneck. Another bottleneck will surface at Bowling Green. The area is not able to handle additional trains. Only during daytime and early evening hours would bottlenecks occur, late evening and late nights there would be no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62A 1991 Posted July 26, 2009 Share #22 Posted July 26, 2009 Only during daytime and early evening hours would bottlenecks occur, late evening and late nights there would be no problem. That is true, but during those times, I don't think the ridership doesn't warrant the heading down there with the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted July 27, 2009 Share #23 Posted July 27, 2009 In the 70s, I believe, they did extend the to Bowling Green during late eves, late nites and wknds. Also, if you look outside the train between Brooklyn Bridge and Fulton Street, there is a fine open space near Fulton Street on the right side of the train. Is that a connection from the to the lower Broadway tracks? At Brooklyn Bridge, the local track goes into two directions, one to the loop and one paralleling the express track. The track then splits into two and end about halfway towards Fulton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 28, 2009 Share #24 Posted July 28, 2009 In the 70s, I believe, they did extend the to Bowling Green during late eves, late nites and wknds. Also, if you look outside the train between Brooklyn Bridge and Fulton Street, there is a fine open space near Fulton Street on the right side of the train. Is that a connection from the to the lower Broadway tracks? At Brooklyn Bridge, the local track goes into two directions, one to the loop and one paralleling the express track. The track then splits into two and end about halfway towards Fulton. That did used to connect to the express tracks at Fulton. So it would have remained on the local through Brooklyn Bridge. Then, they cut it off as extra layup space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted July 29, 2009 Share #25 Posted July 29, 2009 That did used to connect to the express tracks at Fulton. So it would have remained on the local through Brooklyn Bridge. Then, they cut it off as extra layup space. Thanks, when did they sever the connection? The 1970s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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