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R143 pointless order

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what is the point of the r143 they only bought them for the L line and it wasnt even enough cars because of overcrowding and they had to buy 3 sets of r160 coundt they left the L line with the r42 it had and never orded the r143 and just made the whole eastern divison with r160s

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When the MTA ordered the R143s, they didn't see the demand for alot more service coming, so basically the order was underestimated. Now, with the R160s to supplement the R42s replaced, those are in. Now, the other plan the MTA wants to do with the R160s on the (L) is that the MTA wants to add 8 more trains during peak hours.

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i know but maybe they could have just made an r143 option order and bought r143 for the jmz and L line and scraped the r42

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They could have been the first new technology cars testing in revenue service and the manufacturer just updated the design to the R160. just a guess I dont know.

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I dont think that it would be that bad if the mta kept the r42 on the line for five more years the r143 seems like the most pointless subway car order ever made they cound have put cbtc and opto on the r160 the mta didnt even get cbtc running yet anyway

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The point of the R 143's was to be only used for the L Line since those cars were needed as part or the ATO/CBTC/OPTO Project. However the fact they didn't order enough trains slowed down the Project. The L Line is a test line for the future. Whatever works on the L Line will expand to other lines. They got 5 sets of R 160's on the L Line and once they get them on line with CBTC will see the finished product including ATO. When the TWU sells us out on OPTO the L Line will be 100% OPTO at ALL TIMES.

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It was not a pointless order. The MTA was suffering from a car shortage in the B division when the R143 were delivered. The R143 order didn't retire any cars, but moved them to other yards where they were needed.

 

Not to mention that without the R143, the R160 would be a mroe expensive order and it would take longer to get the bugs and glitches out of the programming, from lack of experience.

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Well we really will never know if it was pointless or not unless the person in charge says it was. if it was then we all paid for it. if not then we were blessed with beautiful new cars.

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Well we really will never know if it was pointless or not unless the person in charge says it was. if it was then we all paid for it. if not then we were blessed with beautiful new cars.

 

Amen to that brother. :D

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