NovaBUSRTS9145 Posted August 10, 2009 Share #1 Posted August 10, 2009 Okay folks, as some of you know there are 2 types of Novas In NYC. One very small small amount with Cummins M11E Engines, the rest with Detroit Diesel Series 50 Engines. What engine would be better for NYC's usage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted August 10, 2009 Share #2 Posted August 10, 2009 Okay folks, as some of you know there are 2 types of Novas In NYC. One very small small amount with Cummins M11E Engines, the rest with Detroit Diesel Series 50 Engines. What engine would be better for NYC's usage? I like the Cummins, but I'll still prefer DD S50! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted August 10, 2009 Share #3 Posted August 10, 2009 Detroit (D)'s man but if you wanna make your trip hot then I recmmd Rolls Royce Jet Engine Verrrry Nice great success:cool:<R> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDART Posted August 10, 2009 Share #4 Posted August 10, 2009 Keep the (D)50's around, but looks like Cummins is taking the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted August 10, 2009 Share #5 Posted August 10, 2009 not to mention from an efficiency standpoint, the DD-50 is more efficient than the M11E. a 8.5 L four cylinder is better than a 10.6 L six cylinder with the same output. http://www.detroitdiesel.com/public/specs/3SA432.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/19980125031550/www.cummins.com/bus/tranrate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 10, 2009 Share #6 Posted August 10, 2009 DD50, I really like the way this engine sound on the ex PBL TMCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted August 10, 2009 Share #7 Posted August 10, 2009 Cummins sounds great but DD50 is alot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 10, 2009 Share #8 Posted August 10, 2009 Mercedes! :cool: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDART Posted August 10, 2009 Share #9 Posted August 10, 2009 Mercedes! B):cool: - A Get out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted August 11, 2009 Share #10 Posted August 11, 2009 I only like the Cummins due to the power. Bee-Line had them with their powerhouse 5 Metro Flexible B's (875, 876, 877, 878, and 879), and those 600-700 series Orion V's they have now......... If specifically for RTS's, never drove the Cummins ones, only the DD50, even though I trained out Fresh Pond which had the Cummins too......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted August 11, 2009 Share #11 Posted August 11, 2009 6v92a? I love that sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted August 11, 2009 Share #12 Posted August 11, 2009 i say neither the DD50 or a Cummins M11 should be in em, a Cummins ISL will get the job done and sound good B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted August 11, 2009 Share #13 Posted August 11, 2009 I like the DD50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBUSRTS9145 Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted August 12, 2009 6v92a? I love that sound Thats a whole different engine!!! Can't nothing compare to that one!!! I like your taste though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBUSRTS9145 Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted August 12, 2009 i say neither the DD50 or a Cummins M11 should be in em, a Cummins ISL will get the job done and sound good IMO, The ISL's are weak. They sound too plain to me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBUSRTS9145 Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted August 12, 2009 Detroit (D)'s man but if you wanna make your trip hot then I recmmd Rolls Royce Jet Engine Verrrry Nice great success:cool:<R> Besides Jet Engines!!! LMAO!! But them Rolls Royce's are badass!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBUSRTS9145 Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share #17 Posted August 12, 2009 Keep the (D)50's around, but looks like Cummins is taking the industry. Well they don't make the DD50's anymore the only companies building for Buses are CAT and Cummins!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted August 12, 2009 Share #18 Posted August 12, 2009 IMO, The ISL's are weak. They sound too plain to me!! If you haven't been here yet, come to Westchester County and ride the Bee-Line 600-700series............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted August 12, 2009 Share #19 Posted August 12, 2009 IMO, The ISL's are weak. They sound too plain to me!! aww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBUSRTS9145 Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share #20 Posted August 12, 2009 If you haven't been here yet, come to Westchester County and ride the Bee-Line 600-700series............ No I have rode them already....they sound good but I still don't like them like that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 13, 2009 Share #21 Posted August 13, 2009 If you haven't been here yet, come to Westchester County and ride the Bee-Line 600-700series............Yeah those have the Cummins ISM going on, the Cummins ISL is in the 800s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted August 14, 2009 Share #22 Posted August 14, 2009 I liked the old two-cycle Detroits before they were outlawed for excessive pollution. In all iterations, 4,6, 8, even 12 cylinder either straight or 'V', they were the best bus engines in the world and dominated the industry for several decades. My favorite soundwise was the old straight 6-71. I haven't seen (or heard) one of the new Designline buses yet. I believe they have Capstone microturbines. I love to hear a jet or turbine engine especially when it spools up from start to full speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojobus Posted March 27, 2010 Share #23 Posted March 27, 2010 Detroit Diesels Series 92 hands down. Don't know why they discontinued this workhorse in transit applications. Was a great motor that got good mileage before overhauls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted March 27, 2010 Share #24 Posted March 27, 2010 How can you tell which buses has what engines? Do anyone have a chart of some sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bx41 Wakefield Posted March 28, 2010 Share #25 Posted March 28, 2010 Detroit Diesel sounds better. They sing sweet music under power. The Cummins may be powerful but don't sounds nearly as good. I remember riding the 600 Bee-Line Orions and I was like WTF, expecting to hear Detroit Diesel 50 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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