Harry Posted August 21, 2009 Share #1 Posted August 21, 2009 This thread is for discussing the history and evolution of maps for the subway of New York. Keep this discussion civil and have fun. I have more that I haven't scanned yet that I will get up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted August 21, 2009 Share #2 Posted August 21, 2009 They should consider getting rid of the bus connection bubbles on the map, they make everything cluttered up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted August 21, 2009 Share #3 Posted August 21, 2009 Man you must have a load of maps! I got some 60s 80s and 90s. And of course Todays! But why not have a Bus Map Topic as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted August 21, 2009 Share #4 Posted August 21, 2009 I like the 80s style map, however Vignelli is one of my favorite designers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcconnell Posted August 21, 2009 Share #5 Posted August 21, 2009 Do you have a larger version of the 1969 map? That one looks interesting and I don't think I've seen it before. My favorite era in map design was the 1970s, but unfortunately the map is rather hard to read. I remember seeing a modern updated version of the classic Vignelli map last year -- that was a nice one. I'm also working on my own subway map that should be finished soon. They should consider getting rid of the bus connection bubbles on the map, they make everything cluttered up. I agree, but they should keep the airport bus routes on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted August 21, 2009 Share #6 Posted August 21, 2009 The 80s and early 90s maps were the best. They had the routines on the opposite side of the map, and now they replaced it with the Railroads map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted August 22, 2009 Share #7 Posted August 22, 2009 My favorite era in map design was the 1970s, but unfortunately the map is rather hard to read. I remember seeing a modern updated version of the classic Vignelli map last year -- that was a nice one. Here it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted August 22, 2009 Share #8 Posted August 22, 2009 Do you have a larger version of the 1969 map? That one looks interesting and I don't think I've seen it before. My favorite era in map design was the 1970s, but unfortunately the map is rather hard to read. I remember seeing a modern updated version of the classic Vignelli map last year -- that was a nice one. I'm also working on my own subway map that should be finished soon. I agree, but they should keep the airport bus routes on the map. True, a simpler version though. As for the bus connections, the MTA should print out booklets that contain all the bus connections for each station, that could help a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted August 22, 2009 Share #9 Posted August 22, 2009 As much I like the 1990's subway map.....I like the 1980's map even more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 22, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted August 22, 2009 Do you have a larger version of the 1969 map? That one looks interesting and I don't think I've seen it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62A 1991 Posted August 22, 2009 Share #11 Posted August 22, 2009 I like the 90s maps better. But I couldn't stand it when they changed the Service Guide. I was quite happy when they changed it back. I also do like the late 80s maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrene18 Posted August 22, 2009 Share #12 Posted August 22, 2009 The maps from the 80s is the best, hand down. I map the designs of those maps. The maps from the 90s are bland.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted August 22, 2009 Share #13 Posted August 22, 2009 You know what I miss the most. Is how the 80s and 90s map neverr had the Railroad map shown. In the back tehy had strips maps of each routes kinda like getting a Route schedule. I Miss it! Damn the was the best before the 2000s entered =(! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted August 22, 2009 Share #14 Posted August 22, 2009 You know what I miss the most. Is how the 80s and 90s map neverr had the Railroad map shown. In the back tehy had strips maps of each routes kinda like getting a Route schedule. I Miss it! Damn the was the best before the 2000s entered =(! Personally I LOVED the line by line guides on the map. The "system maps" were on the BACK too. When you opened up the map you'd see the individual line by line maps, with Manhattan trunk lines together. Transfer points were indicated clearly at every stop as were the service intervals the train made certain stops. Plus the service guides on the system map were very cool and useful too It was a toss up between 1980's and 1990's style maps for me but I went with 1980's. There were some "Experiments" with the 90's maps I didn't like, such as the 1992 maps which had all the general info about riding the subway in every language ever. I did find the design of the 1997 maps interesting, with the crazy cover though...but the 1980's style to me was "tried and true" and provided a lot of relevant info even if it didn't include MNCR and LIRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted August 22, 2009 Share #15 Posted August 22, 2009 Personally I LOVED the line by line guides on the map. The "system maps" were on the BACK too. When you opened up the map you'd see the individual line by line maps, with Manhattan trunk lines together. Transfer points were indicated clearly at every stop as were the service intervals the train made certain stops. Plus the service guides on the system map were very cool and useful too It was a toss up between 1980's and 1990's style maps for me but I went with 1980's. There were some "Experiments" with the 90's maps I didn't like, such as the 1992 maps which had all the general info about riding the subway in every language ever. I did find the design of the 1997 maps interesting, with the crazy cover though...but the 1980's style to me was "tried and true" and provided a lot of relevant info even if it didn't include MNCR and LIRR. Yup thats what i mean. But why couldnt the seperate Railroad mapping from Rapid Transit Mapping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted August 22, 2009 Share #16 Posted August 22, 2009 Yup thats what i mean. But why couldnt the seperate Railroad mapping from Rapid Transit Mapping? Probably because the whole map covered trains in its entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 22, 2009 Share #17 Posted August 22, 2009 The current map is ok, however i prefer Kick map, because it clarifies where a train will & wont stop easily at a glance. It is also slightly more physically accurate in terms of where the tracks actually are in relation to each other. I have both iTrans and kickmap on my iPhone, however i only use iTrans to look up subway alerts. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted August 22, 2009 Share #18 Posted August 22, 2009 The current map is ok, however i prefer Kick map, because it clarifies where a train will & wont stop easily at a glance. It is also slightly more physically accurate in terms of where the tracks actually are in relation to each other. I have both iTrans and kickmap on my iPhone, however i only use iTrans to look up subway alerts. - A Kickmap is the best map around! It's too bad there's no place to buy them at, I checked Barnes and Noble and I didn't see anything, unless I checked in the wrong places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted August 22, 2009 Share #19 Posted August 22, 2009 Yea, i've looked into buying a paper one to no avail. iPhone is better for me anyways because its with me on the train & everywhere very small yet easy to use. :cool: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted August 23, 2009 Share #20 Posted August 23, 2009 Harry, could you post larger versions of the 1992, 1994, and 2000 maps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted August 23, 2009 Share #21 Posted August 23, 2009 While the 1972 subway map is my favorite, I like the back of the 1974 subway map. Each subway line is shown by a pennant in the line's color and underneath is a list of stations that you can make a checkmark next to. I also like the 1968 and 1969 Rapid Transit Guide subway maps and the 1939 B.M.T. World's Fair Travel Guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted August 23, 2009 Share #22 Posted August 23, 2009 hey Harry, do you have high res versions of the vignelli map, like 2000 pixels wide? Also does anyone know the designer of the 1968 map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted August 23, 2009 Share #23 Posted August 23, 2009 The 1990s maps will always be my favorites, especially the ones with the main map on the front with an alternate map at the back. That was my favorite kind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share #24 Posted August 23, 2009 Harry, could you post larger versions of the 1992, 1994, and 2000 maps? One sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted August 25, 2009 Share #25 Posted August 25, 2009 I don't know if this is the right place for this so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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