lilbluefoxie Posted August 30, 2009 Share #26 Posted August 30, 2009 Arent they saving R32s for work cars like how a lot of the redbird fleet was saved that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted August 30, 2009 Share #27 Posted August 30, 2009 Um guys...RPC is called "RPC" and not "the Transit Museum" because RPC is (wait for it) NOT the Museum. I gave you the museum cars and everything Art Vandelay is posting is correct as well... I have a good posting record here when have I EVER given wrong information? it would be nice to post some facts for a change and not have someone challenging them on the basis of wrong information or not knowing what they're talking about... just saying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted August 30, 2009 Share #28 Posted August 30, 2009 So in terms of preserved equipment, This is what we have so far and what is proposed to be saved: R32: 3350-51, 3352-33, 2 Phase-I pairs. 3352-3 is a Phase II pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Friday 1986 Posted August 30, 2009 Share #29 Posted August 30, 2009 3352-3 is a Phase II pair. Oh, right...I was just saying that along with 3350-51 and 3352-53, two Phase I pairs are planned for preservation, as per R32 3838's earlier post. So then that will be 8 cars saved for preservation. MF'86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted August 30, 2009 Share #30 Posted August 30, 2009 Interesting... Those there are, IIRC 6 cars that are at CCY then? So in terms of preserved equipment, This is what we have so far and what is proposed to be saved: R32: 3350-51, 3352-33, 2 Phase-I pairs. R38: 4028-29, 4140-41, 4142-43, 1 pair. R40: 4280-81 R40M: 4450-51 R42: 4572-73 School Cars / Work Service R38: 3950-51, 4044-45 R40: 4162-63, 4392-93, 4442-43 MF'86 The R32s and R38s seem to be the most reliable of the rest. R38s are kept b/c all pairs except 4028-29 have GE Propulsion with GE motors, which enables them to still have reliable mileages. R32s on the other hand is probably only b/c they are entirely stainless steel. And no R32 school cars perhaps b/c the R40s own at A/C and the R38s can tolerate the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share #31 Posted August 30, 2009 RPC is not NYTM. 3350-1 are RPC cars, NOT NYTM. 4028-9 are the only R38s saved for NYTM 4140-4141 and the other R38s at concourse are set aside for preservation. I do not believe any permanant home has been found for them, at least not as of yet. Of the 10 R26-28s which were set aside at Concourse for preservation in 2002, only 2 survive, those being the IRM cars. I hope all the Concourse R38s are saved, but am not overly optimistic. I already know that, That's why I put (non-TM), But they can run for future Fan trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share #32 Posted August 30, 2009 8 R32's? That's a pretty large number. But that is great to hear as they have 8 R33ML's?But I'll say this again, they'll need more space to store these cars and they'll need a museum annex or something unless they'll just keep rotating the cars for display. Those 8 R33's only 1 pair will stay, Those are really not Museum cars, They are add-ons and the MTA only saved 8 and repainted them, But I did hear that 6 out of the 8 will be getting reefed. And back to the 4460/4665 topic, Somebody needs to do something about saving those cars because, Now I know that they are at 207th st for reefing, They only have less than 2 weeks then they will meet their fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share #33 Posted August 30, 2009 The R32s and R38s seem to be the most reliable of the rest. R38s are kept b/c all pairs except 4028-29 have GE Propulsion with GE motors, which enables them to still have reliable mileages. R32s on the other hand is probably only b/c they are entirely stainless steel. And no R32 school cars perhaps b/c the R40s own at A/C and the R38s can tolerate the extreme. There is a pair of R32's that are school cars (office car) at pitkin, 3742/43 and they are phase I's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted August 30, 2009 Share #34 Posted August 30, 2009 Those 8 R33's only 1 pair will stay, Those are really not Museum cars, They are add-ons and the MTA only saved 8 and repainted them, But I did hear that 6 out of the 8 will be getting reefed. And back to the 4460/4665 topic, Somebody needs to do something about saving those cars because, Now I know that they are at 207th st for reefing, They only have less than 2 weeks then they will meet their fate. 6 of them will be reefed? Damn, that's a shame. And what a waste of paint. They should keep at least 4 so that they can keep: a 'silver fox'?, red fox, green and red bird paint schemes around. I'm also still hoping they'd paint the front of two cars with both the Yankees and Mets logos just like the 2000 WS train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted August 30, 2009 Share #35 Posted August 30, 2009 And back to the 4460/4665 topic, Somebody needs to do something about saving those cars because, Now I know that they are at 207th st for reefing, They only have less than 2 weeks then they will meet their fate. I don't think anything can be done,if 4460/4665 are going to be reefed there is nothing that can be done.sure they survied a wreck,but should that be reason enough to save them?theres also the fact that it would save two birds with one stone.but i'd rather have one set of each saved,and i'v also heard that they charge up slowly.if they become school cars,thats good. if they get reefed,at least the saved a set of each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted August 30, 2009 Share #36 Posted August 30, 2009 The best thing they could do is make 4460/4665 some sort of visitors center. Haha, like put in front of City Hall just like that R33 pair at Borough Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted August 30, 2009 Share #37 Posted August 30, 2009 The best thing they could do is make 4460/4665 some sort of visitors center. That would be nice,Queens has an R33ML as visitors center.Brooklyn could use them as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted August 30, 2009 Share #38 Posted August 30, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted August 30, 2009 Share #39 Posted August 30, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted August 31, 2009 Share #40 Posted August 31, 2009 Not saving that pair? That's wrong. That pair is the only set that is made up of 2 different cars. Its a living example of the cars that survived the Willy B crash. Way more important than some car in a movie. And why so many R32's being preserved? Is it really necessary? ...also on a side note I hope they save R42 4684 & 4727 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted August 31, 2009 Share #41 Posted August 31, 2009 I hope this car gets saved by the Railway Preservation Corp. I contacted the RPR, but I am not sure if it is same as the RPC. link to RPR: http://www.railwaypreservation.com http://www.bera.org/cgi-bin/pnaerc-query.pl?sel_curown=Railway+Preservation+Corporation it's a bit outdated, but if it's updated, i'll let you guys know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted September 1, 2009 Share #42 Posted September 1, 2009 The 8 R33ML cars in the TOMC were never intended to be museum cars. They were always, and still are, work motors. As these cars were restored, the R33ML museum pair was turned into rider cars, and so one of the TOMC pairs will be designated as the museum pair. As far as I know, there is no current plan to reef this train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share #43 Posted September 3, 2009 Yep true, I heard the same, But they will save 1 pair I would say 9016/17, They are in the best shape, another pair that's in good shape is 9068/69. But the rest needs to go the silver and blues ones (9010/11,9206/07) look like crap, I did hear that they were going to reef those cars but I don't know when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted September 4, 2009 Share #44 Posted September 4, 2009 I wouldn't expect those R33MLs to be going anywhere for a while. They, along with others have been set aside and used as work motors for some time(prior to their museum train use). Since these work motors were being used in the museum trains, they decided to paint them in historical colors so that they too would bring some historical value to the trains. The R33ML motor fleet consists of more cars than the 8 repaints. 8812-8813, 8834-8835, 8888-8889, 8996-8997, 9000-9001 being the other R33ML Motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted September 5, 2009 Share #45 Posted September 5, 2009 If you're saying some specific cars have already been chosen, then what are the numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted September 5, 2009 Share #46 Posted September 5, 2009 As seen from the photos on nycsubway.org, the R40M museum train pair is a definite. An R40A pair and R38 pair had already been chosen, which leaves a Phase I R32 pair and R42 pair to be decided upon. Who knows, the MTA might pull something crazy and save only R42 by using the WillyB pair. If you're saying specific cars have been determined, then what are the car numbers? (Forgive me, I have to get used to this new thing for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted September 5, 2009 Share #47 Posted September 5, 2009 If you're saying specific cars have been determined, then what are the car numbers? )Forgive me, I have to get used to this new thing for me) Answer: R32: 3350-51, 3352-33 R38: 4028-29, 4140-41 + 4142-43 (Maybe) R40: 4280-81 R40M: 4450-51 (not sure) R42: 4572-73 (maybe) School Cars / Work Service R38: 3950-51, 4044-45 R40: 4162-63, 4392-93, 4442-43 MF'86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted September 6, 2009 Share #48 Posted September 6, 2009 Answer: Sorry, but you have entirely to many "not sures" and "maybes" in there! Also as far as I know the entire 4140 series of R38's, sans 4148/49, are still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted September 6, 2009 Share #49 Posted September 6, 2009 Sorry, but you have entirely to many "not sures" and "maybes" in there! Also as far as I know the entire 4140 series of R38's, sans 4148/49, are still around. the point is to sit back, relax and wait a year, we should definitely know by then which cars are being preserved. as the saying goes, a little patience goes a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumz0rz Posted July 23, 2013 Share #50 Posted July 23, 2013 Digging up an old thread, I know, but I had to share this with you. I bought an r42 line sign from the MTA. I was worried it might be damaged, but it's in great condition. Even better, guess which r42 this came from? I'm going to clean it up a little and get it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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