R10 2952 Posted September 17, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 17, 2009 Which, in your opinion, are the most boring and/or worst subway lines in the entire system? What is the worst (or most boring) thing about them? Is it the subway car types, the stations on the line, the amount of people, the neighborhoods that these lines run through, or maybe the line in general? IMO, the worst/most boring lines in order from highest ranking to lowest ranking are: 1. 42nd Street : Only R62As, always crowded, and only two stops. Both stations are crowded as well, and the cars look like the graffittied monsters of the early `80s IRT with those ad wraps. 2. : I ride it almost everyday. Except for the elevated sections, it is pretty miserable. Nothing but R-62As, the middle (express) track is never used for passenger service, and some of the stations are extremely decrepit. After 9:00 PM, and until 6 AM, this line is scary to use. 3. : Until recently, ran only R-46s. Never goes above ground, and is always running on the tracks of another line. Usually slow. 4. : Has never regularly used cars other than the R-68/A since ~1988. Some stations along the line need to really be fixed up, and at times, the can be downright dangerous, especially at night. The West End section is very nice, but there is no rail-fan window. 5. : Usually R-46s, entirely underground, slow-moving, infrequent, and overall boring. Stations on the southern portion of the line are somewhat ugly, and the is never an express. 6. : A rather short line. The line itself is a pleasant ride, and most of the stations look nice, but the line is shorter than most other B-Division lines, and uses almost exclusively R-160s. 7. Rockaway : One of the least utilized lines in the system. The neighborhoods around it are a bit plain, and are unsafe. Otherwise, it's OK. Other possible candidates: , , , (, , , Which lines do you guys think are the worst and/or most boring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted September 17, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 17, 2009 Franklin (A)ve (S)huttle sucks they should discontinue and replace with A bus. is a slow ass train ,the only good thing is that ®46's still run on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted September 18, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 18, 2009 The because it runs under 6 TPH headways. Rush hour is no improvement, even when it runs 7 TPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 18, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 18, 2009 The because it runs under 6 TPH headways. Rush hour is no improvement, even when it runs 7 TPH. wats TPH mean/stands for? ____________________________________ as for lines: -Id Say all the , cuz they stay in one place and not go anywhere else. -42nd St ! Track 1 always filled with ads. And Give it the R130s!! Fix it up and let it run! -the SIRTOA, come on! I hate it in one boro SI! - they never pop out the tube, except heading for yard -The ( on R68/As! I wish the slants were on it! -The . Id use a different letter then having 3 (A)s: Mott Ave, Rockaway pk, Lefferts. I like the but needs a split.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted September 18, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 18, 2009 wats TPH mean/stands for? Trains per hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 18, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 18, 2009 Trains per hour. o ok, thats like MPH right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted September 18, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 18, 2009 o ok, thats like MPH right? Not exactly. MPH measures speed, while TPH counts how many trains arrive during the course of an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted September 18, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 18, 2009 Take off the possible list! That line is quiet fun to ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 18, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 18, 2009 Not exactly. MPH measures speed, while TPH counts how many trains arrive during the course of an hour. Oh ok, but he says 6 and 7 TPH, do this means 6-7 sets of 32s are running the ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 18, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 18, 2009 Take off the possible list! That line is quiet fun to ride. I agree. The is definitely an interesting line, mostly due to how "disconnected" it is from the rest of the system (save for the spaghetti of tracks at Broadway Junction). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted September 18, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 18, 2009 Oh ok, but he says 6 and 7 TPH, do this means 6-7 sets of 32s are running the ? uh no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 18, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 18, 2009 uh no. so wat does he mean? Im not so familiar with in depth transit u know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted September 18, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 18, 2009 Disagree; Any route to Coney Island is unique in its own way... Express though Manhattan and 4 Av in Brooklyn. Viaduct View. roll right through Coney Island Yard. , Well come on, its the . The is the Brighton, the best... okay, the ( as well. :cool::tup: Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted September 18, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted September 18, 2009 TPH simply means the number of trains on a given line at a given station heading in a given direction that stop there in the course of ~1 hour. For example, 6-7 trains will stop at Hoyt-Schermerhorn Street headed towards 168th Street between, let's say, 4 and 5 PM. Also, car class has nothing to do with TPH. As far as the term itself is concerned, 3 of these trains could be slants, 1 could be an R-44, and the remaining 3 could be R-38s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted September 18, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 18, 2009 Oh ok, but he says 6 and 7 TPH, do this means 6-7 sets of 32s are running the ? Mark, if you stood by a station and watched the trains go by, trains would pass by, let's say, 50th Street, at least six times within the hour (so from 1200-1300, six trains would have past by, every 10 minutes or so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bveguy Posted September 18, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 18, 2009 Definitely the for me. I ride it every day to school. It is technically very boring.... I keep getting those R46s with "flat wheels".. The T/Os tend to go very slow and be careful with those "flat wheels".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 18, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 18, 2009 Mark, if you stood by a station and watched the trains go by, trains would pass by, let's say, 50th Street, at least six times within the hour (so from 1200-1300, six trains would have past by, every 10 minutes or so). TPH simply means the number of trains on a given line at a given station heading in a given direction that stop there in the course of ~1 hour. For example, 6-7 trains will stop at Hoyt-Schermerhorn Street headed towards 168th Street between, let's say, 4 and 5 PM. Also, car class has nothing to do with TPH. As far as the term itself is concerned, 3 of these trains could be slants, 1 could be an R-44, and the remaining 3 could be R-38s. I got it! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted September 18, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 18, 2009 boring lines....let's see gets my number 1...very slow, never above ground... I can't think of any other lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted September 18, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 18, 2009 I love every lines including (SIR) Most boring part when subway gets affected by signal problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted September 18, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 18, 2009 Oh ok, but he says 6 and 7 TPH, do this means 6-7 sets of 32s are running the ? The runs between 16-20 sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 18, 2009 Share #21 Posted September 18, 2009 Franklin (A)ve (S)huttle sucks they should discontinue and replace with A bus. is a slow ass train ,the only good thing is that ®46's still run on the line. I disagree. The Franklin S has has nice stations and I feel much safer on the platforms than to wait for the bus on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted September 18, 2009 Share #22 Posted September 18, 2009 I say the and are the most boring since they are local and run underground. If the did not use R32s then it would also be boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted September 19, 2009 Share #23 Posted September 19, 2009 I say the Grand Central Shuttle and the . Lets not forget the is boring too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted September 19, 2009 Share #24 Posted September 19, 2009 I love the , the most boring line in my opinion is the , the is a close second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted September 19, 2009 Share #25 Posted September 19, 2009 The worst lines are the and during rush hours. They are always packed to the point where I have to wait for less crowded trains. Other times they are ok lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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