mark1447 Posted September 22, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 22, 2009 what was the first car to have Air conditioner in the cabs? R62? And during GOH did any older models get a/cs in the cab too? thx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted September 22, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 22, 2009 R38 4140-4141. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted September 22, 2009 R38 4140-4141. R38? But i usually see T/Os keeping there cab doors open when i use to ride the 38s.. Especially in a small cab.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted September 22, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 22, 2009 R38? But i usually see T/Os keeping there cab doors open when i use to ride the 38s.. Especially in a small cab.. Maybe they were just claustrophobic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted September 23, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 23, 2009 From what I've heard ... many A/Cs in the cabs of older equipment don't work well if at all anymore. This includes the R-44/46s which is why you often see the doors cropped open with a shoe paddle during the warmer months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted September 23, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 23, 2009 I think all cars R32-R160 have A/C vesnts in the cab. There is not a sperate A/C just a tiny vest. I know that they do work well on the R142-R160, a C/R friend of mine was very happy when the R160s came to the . On other equipment, it is no uncommon for the vent to be crammed full of papers blocking the flow of cool air. I have been told that in the winter those cabs can get very cold. Imagine operating an R44 over the Rockaways in the evening rush and it is very cold. Everyone on the train has thier winter jackets on so the passenger compartment will be very hot due to all the body heat. Since the A/C is thermostaticly controlled, once the temp. goes above 65, the A/C kicks in. This is fine for all the passengers, but the T/O is going to freeze and will try to block up the vent. Now then in the summer, that vent might still be blocked up and the T/O is going cook in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 23, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 23, 2009 I think all cars R32-R160 have A/C vesnts in the cab. There is not a sperate A/C just a tiny vest. I know that they do work well on the R142-R160, a C/R friend of mine was very happy when the R160s came to the . On other equipment, it is no uncommon for the vent to be crammed full of papers blocking the flow of cool air. I have been told that in the winter those cabs can get very cold. Imagine operating an R44 over the Rockaways in the evening rush and it is very cold. Everyone on the train has thier winter jackets on so the passenger compartment will be very hot due to all the body heat. Since the A/C is thermostaticly controlled, once the temp. goes above 65, the A/C kicks in. This is fine for all the passengers, but the T/O is going to freeze and will try to block up the vent. Now then in the summer, that vent might still be blocked up and the T/O is going cook in there. They could just turn it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted September 23, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 23, 2009 They could just turn it off. But then the customers will complain and then you'll see all the threads on the forum and in Subchat about how RXX had "broken" A/C and how they "suck". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 23, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 23, 2009 But then the customers will complain and then you'll see all the threads on the forum and in Subchat about how RXX had "broken" A/C and how they "suck". lol funny. Dont the AC vents in the cabs have some kind of vent control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted September 23, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 23, 2009 lol funny. Dont the AC vents in the cabs have some kind of vent control? From what INDman said about crew blocking the vents, I'm guessing there is no control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted September 23, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 23, 2009 R38? But i usually see T/Os keeping there cab doors open when i use to ride the 38s.. Especially in a small cab.. I think he meant originally, the first to have A/C. Only 10 of the 38's had the A/C, but I'm not sure if they had them in the cabs. That was experimental. I used to see those cars from time to time in the 80's, but never saw inside the cabs. The 42's may have been the first, but their A/C compartments were completely rebuilt, so you can't tell from looking at what's in there today. The 44's and 46's appear to have the same compartments, so I'm sure they originally had the cab vents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R421969 Posted September 23, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 23, 2009 I think he meant originally, the first to have A/C. Only 10 of the 38's had the A/C, but I'm not sure if they had them in the cabs. That was experimental. I used to see those cars from time to time in the 80's, but never saw inside the cabs. The 42's may have been the first, but their A/C compartments were completely rebuilt, so you can't tell from looking at what's in there today. The 44's and 46's appear to have the same compartments, so I'm sure they originally had the cab vents. Would this mean that the r44/46 have the same AC mechanism that they did since they entered service, they dont seem to have changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 23, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 23, 2009 Would this mean that the r44/46 have the same AC mechanism that they did since they entered service, they dont seem to have changed The ACs gare not the same but I think the dimensions are. Spitting on a Train = $500, 1 yr jail or both B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted September 23, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 23, 2009 No, not the same mechanism; but just the same encasement it seems. So likely, the vents in the cabs were there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted September 23, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 23, 2009 They could just turn it off. Yea, that would really go over well. People would be dropping like files since it would get hot as hell. I don't know if there are vent controls or if they even work. That is why they get stuffed with papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 23, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 23, 2009 Yea, that would really go over well. People would be dropping like files since it would get hot as hell. I don't know if there are vent controls or if they even work. That is why they get stuffed with papers. Hot as hell....in the winter? I'm talking turn it off on elevated portions only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted September 23, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 23, 2009 Hot as hell....in the winter?I'm talking turn it off on elevated portions only. In the winter, train get very hot even if it is cold outside. When you have alot of people in one place, their body heat adds up. Now add in the fact that they all have winter coats on and it gets very hot. Also, I think there are rules about turning off the A/C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 24, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 24, 2009 In the winter, train get very hot even if it is cold outside. When you have alot of people in one place, their body heat adds up. Now add in the fact that they all have winter coats on and it gets very hot. Also, I think there are rules about turning off the A/C. they usually have heat not ac in winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted September 24, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 24, 2009 they usually have heat not ac in winter The heat and A/C are thermostatically controlled so when the temp. goes above 65, the A/C goes on. Trust me, I ride the subway every day and I know how this stuff works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 24, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 24, 2009 The heat and A/C are thermostatically controlled so when the temp. goes above 65, the A/C goes on. Trust me, I ride the subway every day and I know how this stuff works. I know the AC is controlled by thermostat, but I thought the heat was manually operated. and I didn't need to know the amount of knowledge you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted September 24, 2009 Share #21 Posted September 24, 2009 I know the AC is controlled by thermostat, but I thought the heat was manually operated.and I didn't need to know the amount of knowledge you have. Well, just so you know BOTH are thermostatically controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted September 24, 2009 Share #22 Posted September 24, 2009 Well, just so you know BOTH are thermostatically controlled. Well you said that in your last post. "Water, Bread, and Margaritas, Yea" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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