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NYNJ Rail's Union Pacific loco running in Brooklyn

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So what happens if a car cuts off the train?or tries to pass it somehow? Ive always thought that street-running area to be kinda dangerous.

 

Is there enough SBK trackage left for it to even be used for anything? I heard somewhere that a lot of it was ripped up a few years back

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So what happens if a car cuts off the train?or tries to pass it somehow? Ive always thought that street-running area to be kinda dangerous.

 

Is there enough SBK trackage left for it to even be used for anything? I heard somewhere that a lot of it was ripped up a few years back

 

Not all freight can take the ~1.5 week detour up the hudson. This is just a small reminder of the vast car float operations once in place in the NY harbor. If a car tries to cut off the loco/train the car will be damaged and need repair. Street running is only as dangerous as people make it. It used to be the de-factor standard across the country, with streetcars in most towns and every city, even across some bridges.

 

The tracks are not ripped up, however unused spurs may have been paved over. Removing street tracks takes a lot of money and effort, so usually they are paved over & left in place.

 

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The tracks are not ripped up, however unused spurs may have been paved over.

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SBK'S main line went from 39th Street BMT yard to Coney Island Yard and all of that is gone. About 4 or 5 years ago they ripped up all the track that was under the Culver line on MacDonald Av. Back in the 80's they ripped up the tracks along 13th Av that had been under the Culver Shuttle line. The only section of SBK trackage around is the yard behind Cosco, the connection to the West End Line, and some tracks on 2nd and 1st Av. NYC DOT has a thing for tripping up old tracks around the city.

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That's the exact reason why the TTC uses a narrow gauge system vs a normal gauge system. But anyhow, good catch!

 

What reason?

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I have a question about the streetside track.

 

If there are no switches on the street, how do the trains switch and choose which track to take? There are a few of them on 1 Av in the 40s.

 

They do have switches, atlest last time I was down there they did.

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They do have switches, atlest last time I was down there they did.
Yes, They still have them.

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Yes, They still have them.

 

I think that they have trolley switches in most areas in the street. A trolley switch is a switch that only has one movable point.

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I think that they have trolley switches in most areas in the street. A trolley switch is a switch that only has one movable point.

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They have throw switches as well but not on the streets themselves.

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They have throw switches as well but not on the streets themselves.

 

Correct, a switch stand would get destroyed if it were in the middle of 1st Av.

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Well they are fun when your trolly has normal trolley profile wheels like, dare I say.... a CONNCO Car?

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What reason?

Running commuter train locomotives on the city streets. Back then, the TTC was afraid that the Toronto St Railway (long defunct) would run steam locomotives and freight trains on the city streets as they did in NYC. I was actually wrong about the TTC trolley gauge as it's actually a broad gauge, not a narrow gauge system.

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Running commuter train locomotives on the city streets. Back then, the TTC was afraid that the Toronto St Railway (long defunct) would run steam locomotives and freight trains on the city streets as they did in NYC. I was actually wrong about the TTC trolley gauge as it's actually a broad gauge, not a narrow gauge system.

 

The gauge won't have anything to do with the likelihood of accidents. Drivers' awareness, the length of trains, and the speed of trains and vehicles through the area are the only things that will affect it.

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