Pu3rToRoCk8947 Posted October 12, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 12, 2009 It seems the MTA wants to improve the ride to LGA Airport by adding some luggage racks on the M60 bus,ofcourse eliminating some seating space in the back to do this.Some luggage racks are planned for buses to JFK Airport as well in the future.What are your opinions on this idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted October 12, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 12, 2009 Bad Idea. Those lines are already packed, and the way the hybrids acelerate and decelerate people wont be the only thing moving around the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerboy6561 Posted October 12, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 12, 2009 If you want to add luggage racks on the M60 you should not use the Orion low-floors for two reasons. First, if the luggage racks take up any more seating space on the low floors they are more trouble than they are worth, as the low floors only seat 35 people (OG) or 33 people (NG). Second, the NGs accelerate like no bus I have ever been on before, and that means at nearly every stop luggage will slide along the racks and get jumbled. Finally, any sharp turns may wll dump everyone's luggage into the aisle. My advice is to either order up some NABI 416s with racks or retrofit some of the WCBL or 6000-6300 series O5s with luggage racks and swap them to MHV for some of the NGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted October 12, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 12, 2009 I have better idea, just make a M60 EXPRESS and but some MCI on that route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted October 12, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 12, 2009 I've always said they could use luggage racks for at least the lower level segment of the bus. I don't see what's wrong with that. But I say none for the back level as there isn't much overhead space for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 12, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 12, 2009 I actually like the idea of luggage racks, I've said this before but always get negative feedback. My only tiff with this idea is how these luggage racks will be arranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted October 12, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 12, 2009 (NJT) flexibles have them, people going to/from EWR use them a lot. No issues at all. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingFlash Posted October 12, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 12, 2009 It seems the MTA wants to improve the ride to LGA Airport by adding some luggage racks on the M60 bus,ofcourse eliminating some seating space in the back to do this.Some luggage racks are planned for buses to JFK Airport as well in the future.What are your opinions on this idea? Maybe if everyone wasnt so hell bent on taking the M60 to "Manhattan" not realizing they are in Harlem they can take the 48 or any other bus that can take them to the 7 which will get them to midtown faster the M60 wouldnt be so packed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriston Lewis Posted October 12, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 12, 2009 Maybe if everyone wasnt so hell bent on taking the M60 to "Manhattan" not realizing they are in Harlem they can take the 48 or any other bus that can take them to the 7 which will get them to midtown faster the M60 wouldnt be so packed! Not on those sorry headways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted October 13, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 13, 2009 u kno wat it is, alot of people use the M60 bus. its the busiest line that operates via 125 St, compared to the Bx15 (to and from the Bronx). so the people who use the M60 bus doesnt always go to the airport. some people take it to Astoria to make the connection with the , some people use just use it to go crosstown on 125 St instead of using the Bx15, M100, or M101 (via 125 St). believe it or not...its 9:11pm right now and that bus is crowded this very minute. the M60 bus (to and from LGA) is just like the B15 to and from JFK. i can tell u one thing, ive taken the M60 lots of times, and believe me, its NEVER empty, and ALWAYS crowded. so i dont think its a good idea to put racks on the M60 bus being that the bus is always crowded as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted October 13, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 13, 2009 What about ex-Command Bus CNG and new Bee-Line #800s that used on express route BxM4C, #77, #43? to operate for M60, Q33, Q48, Q72, Q3, Q10, B15 JFK? They have luggage rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTARegional Bus Posted October 13, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 13, 2009 Saw ny1,they but the Luggage racks as shelf's in left side across the rear exit in the Orion Next Gen.I don't know if this is going to work.I mean the people on this route just want to go to queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted October 13, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 13, 2009 Saw ny1,they but the Luggage racks as shelf's in left side across the rear exit in the Orion Next Gen.I don't know if this is going to work.I mean the people on this route just want to go to queens. exactly. not everyboy who rides the M60 goes to the airport. either they head to astoria or they go crosstown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted October 13, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 13, 2009 sounds like a good idea the q10 could use them for all the flight personnel that get on at metropolitan and lefferts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted October 13, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 13, 2009 Some people ride the M60 for only 2 or 3 blocks on 125 Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted October 13, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 13, 2009 If you want to add luggage racks on the M60 you should not use the Orion low-floors for two reasons. First, if the luggage racks take up any more seating space on the low floors they are more trouble than they are worth, as the low floors only seat 35 people (OG) or 33 people (NG). Second, the NGs accelerate like no bus I have ever been on before, and that means at nearly every stop luggage will slide along the racks and get jumbled. Finally, any sharp turns may wll dump everyone's luggage into the aisle. My advice is to either order up some NABI 416s with racks or retrofit some of the WCBL or 6000-6300 series O5s with luggage racks and swap them to MHV for some of the NGs. Well, on low floors, you would at least reclaim that wasted space above the wheels, for shelf racks. Perhaps take out that whole closet they provide for the drivers on the other side as well. Thing is now, you would be talking about dedicated fleets for particular routes. It can be done, but still reduces flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingFlash Posted October 13, 2009 Share #17 Posted October 13, 2009 Not on those sorry headways. Ohh really.... I pull up to the stand and there are 30 ppl waiting for the M60 and i just laugh...less people on my 48 less work for me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted October 13, 2009 Share #18 Posted October 13, 2009 Some people ride the M60 for only 2 or 3 blocks on 125 Street. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNQtrain3912 Posted October 14, 2009 Share #19 Posted October 14, 2009 u kno wat it is, alot of people use the M60 bus. its the busiest line that operates via 125 St, compared to the Bx15 (to and from the Bronx). so the people who use the M60 bus doesnt always go to the airport. some people take it to Astoria to make the connection with the , some people use just use it to go crosstown on 125 St instead of using the Bx15, M100, or M101 (via 125 St). believe it or not...its 9:11pm right now and that bus is crowded this very minute. the M60 bus (to and from LGA) is just like the B15 to and from JFK. i can tell u one thing, ive taken the M60 lots of times, and believe me, its NEVER empty, and ALWAYS crowded. so i dont think its a good idea to put racks on the M60 bus being that the bus is always crowded as it is. one time i took the m60 and it was fairly empty. it was around early afternoon like 12 or 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted October 15, 2009 Share #20 Posted October 15, 2009 If the M60 was created as an airport route to/from LGA and Manhattan then the local riders don't really have a leg to stand on. If it was an existing route that was extended to LGA they might have a legitimate beef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted October 15, 2009 Share #21 Posted October 15, 2009 one time i took the m60 and it was fairly empty. it was around early afternoon like 12 or 1 u must've been extremely lucky cuz i NEVER get an M60 bus empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted October 15, 2009 Share #22 Posted October 15, 2009 I appose the idea. Less room on the bus and hardly much space for more luggage. I wish the M60 bus was articulated, use the NF-D60HF and convert some seats with the racks.. Orion VII NG can't handle all this.. Im wondering now if the M60 will or is now 100% NG because of the racks.. Seeing it does or did ran some HEV OGs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted October 15, 2009 Share #23 Posted October 15, 2009 I appose the idea. Less room on the bus and hardly much space for more luggage. I wish the M60 bus was articulated, use the NF-D60HF and convert some seats with the racks.. Orion VII NG can't handle all this.. Im wondering now if the M60 will or is now 100% NG because of the racks.. Seeing it does or did ran some HEV OGs.. nah they still use like 1 or 2 OG's. but yea its mostly NG's now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted October 15, 2009 Share #24 Posted October 15, 2009 nah they still use like 1 or 2 OG's. but yea its mostly NG's now. cool. But im guessing other routes besides the M60 wont use these special O-7s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted October 15, 2009 Share #25 Posted October 15, 2009 Bad idea. There is a shortage of seats on the Hybrids. This will exacerbate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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