theaveragejoe Posted November 23, 2009 Share #51 Posted November 23, 2009 to bad they will not be starting service until late 2010 as im coming down in July to fan(MTA) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 23, 2009 Share #52 Posted November 23, 2009 Question what are the chances the flaws on these cars will be minimal? At least 90% for the first 5 years as were other Japanese Trains elsewhere in the world! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share #53 Posted November 23, 2009 For example.Look at the Kawasaki R62`s.They been around since 83` and have a great track record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 23, 2009 Share #54 Posted November 23, 2009 For example.Look at the Kawasaki R62`s.They been around since 83` and have a great track record. Even better, the Shinkansen 700 and E3 series! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ023 Posted November 23, 2009 Share #55 Posted November 23, 2009 Even better, the Shinkansen 700 and E3 series! Are the M8's going on the Harlem line or the New Haven lines? Im not familiar with the train types on the Metro North. I am used to the train types on the LIRR and Subway. LIRR has the M7's which are nice, and the subway has the modern R160's coming replacing those horrible R32 + R42's as we move into 2010. M8's on the Metro North will be nice as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ023 Posted November 23, 2009 Share #56 Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) Duplicate, Unable to delete as I don't know how to. Edited November 23, 2009 by AJ023 Duplicate 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 23, 2009 Share #57 Posted November 23, 2009 Are the M8's going on the Harlem line or the New Haven lines? Im not familiar with the train types on the Metro North. I am used to the train types on the LIRR and Subway. LIRR has the M7's which are nice, and the subway has the modern R160's coming replacing those horrible R32 + R42's as we move into 2010. M8's on the Metro North will be nice as well. The M8s will only operate on the New Haven unless there's a snow emergency in the future that requires extra trains on the Hudson or Harlem like once before with the M2s. Note that the difference between the M7A and M8 is that the M8 is compatible with both 750v DC (to GCT) and 12.5v AC/25 hz (on NEC) and has both collector shoes and pantographs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ023 Posted November 24, 2009 Share #58 Posted November 24, 2009 The M8s will only operate on the New Haven unless there's a snow emergency in the future that requires extra trains on the Hudson or Harlem like once before with the M2s. Note that the difference between the M7A and M8 is that the M8 is compatible with both 750v DC (to GCT) and 12.5v AC/25 hz (on NEC) and has both collector shoes and pantographs. It will be nice to see new cars in the tri state metro region from the NYC Subway to the LIRR to Metro North. LIRR uses M3 + M7 now and will be getting M9 for extra service, then I assume more orders or another car to replace the M3s down the road. Mass transit has gotten a lot more attention as of late. When thinking about the entirety of the MTA as an organization, seems like the breakdown and problematic pieces are old signalling systems and old cars. Every day you see an MTA breakdown for signal issues in the subway although less car breakdowns now with the R32 + R42's finally getting removed from the system. LIRR signals are pretty modern and new now. Am I correct to assume the last old signals are still at Jamaica and that will be replaced in Early 2010? With the Valley Interlocking finally redone, seems like the system is much better. Commuter rail in the northeastern United States is pretty good overall and should be better in the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share #59 Posted November 24, 2009 I nsure hope so,especially Amtrak.Their whole infrastructure needs a make over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelinefan Posted December 18, 2009 Share #60 Posted December 18, 2009 The first pair of M8's will be in New Haven on Monday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregorygrice Posted December 18, 2009 Share #61 Posted December 18, 2009 The first pair of M8's will be in New Haven on Monday. OMG!! Cant wait to see them:) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted December 18, 2009 Author Share #62 Posted December 18, 2009 I hope thats true.Being that I live right in stamford I might get a first glance!(gets the camera ready) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelinefan Posted December 23, 2009 Share #63 Posted December 23, 2009 The M8's have had brake issues and were delayed in leaving Baltimore., according to the M8 topic on railroad.net they left Baltimore today. Track this topic for the most up to date info on the M8s. http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=24214&start=570 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share #64 Posted December 23, 2009 Wait.So the are already stateside? Brake problems? So they aren`t piggybacking them here I guess.It would be cool to see them on flatbed cars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCTrainFan95 Posted December 23, 2009 Share #65 Posted December 23, 2009 Wait.So the are already stateside? Brake problems? So they aren`t piggybacking them here I guess.It would be cool to see them on flatbed cars.From what I saw on the RR.net topic, it seems they're being towed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share #66 Posted December 23, 2009 I hope this is true because those M2s & 4s suckI have to disagree with you on this one Rocky.Although they are old,the oldest have been around since 1972 which means that they ae well built trains.Believe me when you ride one of these old dogs on the new haven line going over 70 MPH:tup:But I respect your opinion.But I forgot you mentioned the M4 which is basically the same,but are built by Tokyu car corp of japan 1987.Yonger than the M2 and run in triplets.Only 54 of the triplet cars:( 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted December 24, 2009 Share #67 Posted December 24, 2009 I hope this is true because those M2s & 4s suck I have to disagree with you on this one Rocky.Although they are old,the oldest have been around since 1972 which means that they ae well built trains.Believe me when you ride one of these old dogs on the new haven line going over 70 MPH:tup:But I respect your opinion.But I forgot you mentioned the M4 which is basically the same,but are built by Tokyu car corp of japan 1987.Yonger than the M2 and run in triplets.Only 54 of the triplet cars:( I agree with St. Louis on this. Those railcars have been in service through several administrative changes, eight U.S. Presidents, multiple economic crises, millions of miles and abusive riders and only one GOH for most of the M2 fleet. And after talking to a locomotive engineer, apparently the general consensus is that the M2's still operate more smoothly than the M4's and M6's. Considering the amount of wear and tear they've encountered over the past 35+ years, I feel that they're in excellent condition. Try putting your personal vehicle through that kind of hell and see if it still runs as reliably as those cars do. While issues with climate control and other mechanical problems arise from time to time, they've been nothing but absolute workhorses and I'll be sad to see them go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelinefan Posted December 24, 2009 Share #68 Posted December 24, 2009 Per the rr.net topic the first pair of M8's have arrived in New Haven. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 25, 2009 Share #69 Posted December 25, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted December 25, 2009 Share #70 Posted December 25, 2009 Well, well, well... Another batch of trains making the Commuter Rail look more boring... I love the M2's and M4's, they look in the sunset! I bet that the M8s would be rough with hard seats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted December 25, 2009 Share #71 Posted December 25, 2009 Whats a good place to see the M2s in action in Manhattan, is photography allowed in Grand Central? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 25, 2009 Share #72 Posted December 25, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted December 25, 2009 Share #73 Posted December 25, 2009 Dangit these M8's are just spruced up M7's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted December 25, 2009 Share #74 Posted December 25, 2009 Meh, possibly, ... They do look rough and they do look like they have harder than usual seats which sucks but keeps commuters from doozin' off after a long day of work. The M8 seats are actually pretty comfortable. They had a mock up a while ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted December 25, 2009 Share #75 Posted December 25, 2009 Dangit these M8's are just spruced up M7's The M7s are excellent in my opinion and one of the smoothest commuter trains I've rode on presently at 80mph+. Their seat comfort is definitely better than that of the NJT MLV seats by far! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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