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Ok I've been tracking the Next Gens since they first came out and came up with a list of where they all are now and where they are possibly gonna go. But there's some buses that I don't know where they are so can anybody tell me where they are now. Please & thanks. The list is below...

 

All info is from either my own observations, ttmg (where the buses are), wikipedia (the numbers), and from here (future places). Everything after 4482 is still unknown as to where they're going.

 

3800-3829 - Quill

3830-3899 - Manhattanville

3900-3959 - Flatbush

3960 ???

3961-3964 - Manhattanville

3965-4019 - Castleton

4020-4039 - LaGuardia

4040-4091 - Gun Hill

4092-4139 - Yukon

4140-4169 - JFK

4170-4219 - Casey Stengel

4220-4244 - Flatbush

4245-4278 - Castleton

4330-4407 - Kingsbridge

4408-4416 - Gun Hill

4417 ???

4418-4420 - Gun Hill

4421 ???

4422-4428 - Gun Hill

4429 ???

4430 - Gun Hill

4431 - Jamaica

4432 ???

4433-4435 - Jamaica

4436 ???

4437-4445 - Jamaica

4446-4482 - Jamaica (in progress)?

4483-4512 - LaGuardia?

4513-4570 - Grand Avenue?

4571-4630 - Flatbush?

4631-4655 - John F. Kennedy?

4656-4677 - Castleton?

4678-4700 - Jamaica?

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Ok I've been tracking the Next Gens since they first came out and came up with a list of where they all are now and where they are possibly gonna go. But there's some buses that I don't know where they are so can anybody tell me where they are now. Please & thanks. The list is below...

 

All info is from either my own observations, ttmg (where the buses are), wikipedia (the numbers), and from here (future places). Everything after 4482 is still unknown as to where they're going.

 

3800-3829 - Quill

3830-3899 - Manhattanville

3900-3959 - Flatbush

3960 ???

3961-3964 - Manhattanville

3965-4019 - Castleton

4020-4039 - LaGuardia

4040-4091 - Gun Hill

4092-4139 - Yukon

4140-4169 - JFK

4170-4219 - Casey Stengel

4220-4244 - Flatbush

4245-4278 - Castleton

4330-4407 - Kingsbridge

4408-4416 - Gun Hill

4417 ???

4418-4420 - Gun Hill

4421 ???

4422-4428 - Gun Hill

4429 ???

4430 - Gun Hill

4431 - Jamaica

4432 ???

4433-4435 - Jamaica

4436 ???

4437-4445 - Jamaica

4446-4482 - Jamaica (in progress)?

4483-4512 - LaGuardia?

4513-4570 - Grand Avenue?

4571-4630 - Flatbush?

4631-4655 - John F. Kennedy?

4656-4677 - Castleton?

4678-4700 - Jamaica?

 

3960 is still at Orion awaiting delivery. 3961 has arrived sometime ago fresh from Orion into Manhattanville. LGA has 4483-4512 all in order, Grand Ave is next. Jamaica had a temporary pause in delivery, but I think its resuming with some gaps. All of Gun Hill's NGs are there.

 

I will tell you this though, there will be a major change coming real soon.

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Here's what that list should look like:

 

3800-3829 - Quill

3830-3899 - Manhattanville

3900-3959 - Flatbush

3960 - To Be Delivered

3961-3964 - Manhattanville

3965-4019 - Castleton

4020-4039 - LaGuardia

4040-4091 - Gun Hill

4092-4139 - Yukon

4140-4169 - JFK

4170-4219 - Casey Stengel

4220-4244 - Flatbush

4245-4278 - Castleton

4330-4407 - Kingsbridge

4408-4430 - Gun Hill

4431-4461, 4463 - Jamaica

4483-4510, 4512 - LaGuardia

 

To Be Delivered

4462, 4464-4482 - Jamaica

4511 - LaGuardia

4513-4570 - Grand Avenue?

4571-4630 - Flatbush?

4631-4655 - John F. Kennedy?

4656-4677 - Castleton?

4678-4700 - Jamaica?

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I know it has been asked before, but why are there gaps in the numbers? Shouldn't they send out buses in order like: the first bus ready to leave the plant is then numbered rather than for them to number everything first and then for it to later show up if it isnt ready?

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What about Ulmer Park? I believe Ulmer Park is the only NYCT depot without any hybrids or CNG buses. Is there any specific reason they haven't recieved any? Upon arrival of hybrids, I assumed the MTA would treat Flatbush and Ulmer Park the same way, both being all RTS depots before the NG07's came out.

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I know it has been asked before, but why are there gaps in the numbers? Shouldn't they send out buses in order like: the first bus ready to leave the plant is then numbered rather than for them to number everything first and then for it to later show up if it isnt ready?

 

For the 4300s, it was for MCI D4500CL's 4300-4329, hence why 4330 is there.

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I know it has been asked before, but why are there gaps in the numbers? Shouldn't they send out buses in order like: the first bus ready to leave the plant is then numbered rather than for them to number everything first and then for it to later show up if it isnt ready?

This is just a guess but it might make it easier to ID buses that Orion is currently delivering and are on the road (i.e. an Orion official reports sending out 4473, 4478 and 4476 out on the road for delivery to the (MTA)).

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Thanks for all the info.

 

...on a little side note pertaining to Grand Ave. I heard that they are also getting DesignLines. Can verify this?

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What about Ulmer Park? I believe Ulmer Park is the only NYCT depot without any hybrids or CNG buses. Is there any specific reason they haven't recieved any? Upon arrival of hybrids, I assumed the MTA would treat Flatbush and Ulmer Park the same way, both being all RTS depots before the NG07's came out.

 

Don't forget about 126th Street depot.

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Thanks for all the info.

 

...on a little side note pertaining to Grand Ave. I heard that they are also getting DesignLines. Can verify this?

 

1303 is now a Grand Ave bus

 

Also got a rarity.

 

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Fresh from Orion comes 3961

 

 

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4446-4482 - Jamaica (On going)

 

There's one more update. B) Up to 4467 has been delivered. As far as I've spotted so far.

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