nel070 Posted November 11, 2009 Share #26 Posted November 11, 2009 The R46 is the greatest subway car ever built. It is so large and comfortable. An 8 car R46 can hold more people than a 10 car R32 or R42. The interior of the R46 looks like a commuter rail car. When the R46 accelerates it sounds like a spaceship. I liked the old days when the was 100% R46. Here are some of my best R46 pics: amen last night about 900 pm i saw a 46 going to the jamaica yard in between van wyck briarwood and union turnpike with an sign on the front display brought back memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted November 11, 2009 Share #27 Posted November 11, 2009 The R46 is the greatest subway car ever built. It is so large and comfortable. An 8 car R46 can hold more people than a 10 car R32 or R42. The interior of the R46 looks like a commuter rail car. When the R46 accelerates it sounds like a spaceship. I liked the old days when the was 100% R46. Yeah, I love the way the R46 sounds when it pulls in and out of the station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 11, 2009 Share #28 Posted November 11, 2009 I wonder does anyone have a pic or an actual R46 original builder plate from Pullman-Standard? I been trying to see how it looks for years and no one seem to have a pic or an actual plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted November 12, 2009 Share #29 Posted November 12, 2009 While not a distinctive feature of the R46s, I do like the transverse seating that they are outfitted with. Being able to sit facing forwards (or backwards) feels better on my back. We're not fish, our back is not supposed to move side-to-side. Agreed. It's a shame that type of seating is not the norm compared to commuter rail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 12, 2009 Share #30 Posted November 12, 2009 If only those Rockwell Trucks didn't crack and if only Westinghouse made their propulsion systems/motors. Then, the R46s would be as smooth and quiet as the M1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted November 12, 2009 Share #31 Posted November 12, 2009 Agreed. It's a shame that type of seating is not the norm compared to commuter rail. The Arnines did have them first. It is a shame that the NTTs didn't continue on with the transverse seats though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 12, 2009 Share #32 Posted November 12, 2009 The Arnines did have them first. It is a shame that the NTTs didn't continue on with the transverse seats though. I wouldn't mind transversed seats only with no side seats for standing room. I guess that the T/A hasn't thought about that yet in spite of not including the flip seats in the A R160 cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted November 12, 2009 Share #33 Posted November 12, 2009 for you 70(EE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted November 12, 2009 Share #34 Posted November 12, 2009 The Arnines did have them first. Nope, transverse seating started with BRT cars. I think the El cars had them first and so did the BMT Standards and the D-Types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr1nyc1 Posted November 12, 2009 Share #35 Posted November 12, 2009 I have only one problem with the R46. I ride em mostly everyday, and everyday it's the same issue. Since people on the love to stand by doors, i hate the fact that the glass, such as on the R44, isnt there. Its a real bother when u feel someone's coat rubbing up against your ear. This also ties into not having the luxury of resting your head on that glass after a long day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted November 12, 2009 Share #36 Posted November 12, 2009 i think before the rebuild the 46s had plastic but they were taken out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 12, 2009 Share #37 Posted November 12, 2009 If only those Rockwell Trucks didn't crack and if only Westinghouse made their propulsion systems/motors. Then, the R46s would be as smooth and quiet as the M1s. If WH made the propulsion system/motors, the R46 would sound exactly like an R44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 12, 2009 Share #38 Posted November 12, 2009 If WH made the propulsion system/motors, the R46 would sound exactly like an R44. That's why I like the R44s, R62As, and R68/As; they are so quiet that their acceleration is barely noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSmith Posted November 12, 2009 Share #39 Posted November 12, 2009 That's why I like the R44s, R62As, and R68/As; they are so quiet that their acceleration is barely noticeable. I find the R46s acceleration quieter than R68s or R68As (no discernable difference) and a bit quieter than R44s. I find the R62As louder than the R62s and noticeably louder than the B division trains. I mostly notice the click-clack sounds of the trucks on the R46s where I definitely can hear the traction motors on the R62/As and sometimes on the R68/As and even the Seiman's propulsion NTTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted November 12, 2009 Share #40 Posted November 12, 2009 While not a distinctive feature of the R46s, I do like the transverse seating that they are outfitted with. Being able to sit facing forwards (or backwards) feels better on my back. We're not fish, our back is not supposed to move side-to-side. Thank you Joe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted November 12, 2009 Share #41 Posted November 12, 2009 When the R46 accelerates it sounds like a spaceship. You know you're right, it does sound like a spaceship. It's sure is smooth on the rails too. It's great when you get to ride them as express trains on the in Queens or the and feel how smooth the train is at that fast speed. The R46's are some incredible cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 12, 2009 Share #42 Posted November 12, 2009 I find the R46s acceleration quieter than R68s or R68As (no discernable difference) and a bit quieter than R44s. I find the R62As louder than the R62s and noticeably louder than the B division trains. I mostly notice the click-clack sounds of the trucks on the R46s where I definitely can hear the traction motors on the R62/As and sometimes on the R68/As and even the Seiman's propulsion NTTs. The ghostly acceleration sound of the R46 and R62 gets annoying over time. If you sit on certain ends of the trains with WH acceleration, you can barely hear the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #43 Posted November 13, 2009 The R68s(Westinghouse) has some serious propulsion sounds.It sounds like a jet engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 13, 2009 Share #44 Posted November 13, 2009 The R68s(Westinghouse) has some serious propulsion sounds.It sounds like a jet engine. If you're referring to the whirring noise, that's a metallurgical quality in one of the gears (I think the pinion?) that causes that but it's nothing harmful or dangerous. Only some of them have it because it was detected and corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #45 Posted November 13, 2009 If you're referring to the whirring noise, that's a metallurgical quality in one of the gears (I think the pinion?) that causes that but it's nothing harmful or dangerous. Only some of them have it because it was detected and corrected. So basically its not suppose to make that sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 13, 2009 Share #46 Posted November 13, 2009 So basically its not suppose to make that sound? It was not designed to. The issue was very minor (the only effect was the noise) and was corrected in later deliveries but the parts were already in circulation. There's really no order to which cars have it and which don't anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #47 Posted November 13, 2009 It was not designed to. The issue was very minor (the only effect was the noise) and was corrected in later deliveries but the parts were already in circulation. There's really no order to which cars have it and which don't anymore. Interestin tidbit.Either way I love that sound,but I had a slight feeling that It wasn`t kosher to hear that.Thanks subway guy.:tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 13, 2009 Share #48 Posted November 13, 2009 Interestin tidbit.Either way I love that sound,but I had a slight feeling that It wasn`t kosher to hear that.Thanks subway guy.:tup: Youre welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted November 13, 2009 Share #49 Posted November 13, 2009 I have only one problem with the R46. I ride em mostly everyday, and everyday it's the same issue. Since people on the love to stand by doors, i hate the fact that the glass, such as on the R44, isnt there. Its a real bother when u feel someone's coat rubbing up against your ear. This also ties into not having the luxury of resting your head on that glass after a long day. The NTTs aren't much better in that respect. I don't usually lean my head against the glass or wall anyway, but those bars by the doors aren't comfortable to lean up against either. Also, the pole in the middle of each bench makes the seating awkward. The R-44/46 as well as all other car classes with just a single bar are fine. The R-62s also have an uncomfortable seating arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #50 Posted November 13, 2009 If you're referring to the whirring noise, that's a metallurgical quality in one of the gears (I think the pinion?) that causes that but it's nothing harmful or dangerous. Only some of them have it because it was detected and corrected. All train with WH propulsions/motors have that metallurgical feature including the R44s, R62As, and even the R1s. I personally view the WH acceleration as distinctive with the deep growl at the start of the run and consider it a classic since the R1 was the first to emit a deep growl when accelerating. Speaking of the deep growl, it's almost impossible to record the sound with a camera b/c the sound is so deep. The only video that I heard the WH deep growl from was one that feature an R62A express run on the now-defunct nycrails.com. Sorry for going off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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