Franklin Av Shuttle Future

[Milan 0]

During rehab of franklin shuttle did they consider this plan.

1)extend hanover place(its bet. Bond &nevins) north to jnct of

dekalb&flatbush and south to jnct of bond&schermerhorn.

2)extend nevins st irt platform westward to west of hanover

place

3)build lightrail/trolley/people mover from dekalb ave station to

hoyt/schermerhorn .

4)dismantle franklin shuttle&create an allee/park in the row.

[LRG 217]

1: Please don't use all caps.

2: What???

[EE Broadway Local 18]

Before the Franklin Avenue Shuttle was rehabilitated in 1998, there was consideration of closing the line and Dean Street was closed in 1995. Fortunately they went with rehabilitation and improved the line.

 

It's a good connection between the at Franklin Avenue and the at Prospect Park and now with a transfer to the .

[mark1447 685]

1: Please don't use all caps.

2: What???

 

During rehab of franklin shuttle did they consider this plan.

1)extend hanover place(its bet. Bond &nevins) north to jnct of

dekalb&flatbush and south to jnct of bond&schermerhorn.

2)extend nevins st irt platform westward to west of hanover

place

3)build lightrail/trolley/people mover from dekalb ave station to

hoyt/schermerhorn .

4)dismantle franklin shuttle&create an allee//park in the row.

 

 

Use this even though im not editing anything.. Just used Office 2010 TP Beta..

 

And i dont understand anything too

[Rutgers Tube 0]

1: Please don't use all caps.

2: What???

 

:tup::tup:

[LRG 217]

Use this even though im not editing anything.. Just used Office 2010 TP Beta..

 

And i dont understand anything too

 

Must be captivated by r40s syndrome B)

[Grand Concourse 2,690]

I don't think it is possible to extend the Franklin Av platform westward because the trains are entering at a curve.

So while it would be nice to have a shorter walk to the S, it is not worth moving the platforms more to the west.

[pr1nyc1 3]

I love this shuttle, it saves me so much time from the Rockaways to Kings Highway.

[Grand Concourse 2,690]

You could try another alternative using the buses: B2 from the Brighton KH stop to the Q35 at Flatbush Av and then the Q22 to go further into the Rockaways.

Obviously it works if you have an unlimited, and dunno if you want to try that.

[pr1nyc1 3]

You could try another alternative using the buses: B2 from the Brighton KH stop to the Q35 at Flatbush Av and then the Q22 to go further into the Rockaways.

Obviously it works if you have an unlimited, and dunno if you want to try that.

 

The Q35 goes to 116st right or what? I know from there i could transfer to a Q22, and itll drop me off right on my street.

[Grand Concourse 2,690]

The Q35 goes to 116st right or what? I know from there i could transfer to a Q22, and itll drop me off right on my street.

 

Yup, B116th. But you might have to walk down a few blocks from there. There's a stop around 147th, but I would only recommend that if it is during the day and if it seems like there's people around.

[Rutgers Tube 0]

DURING REHAB OF FRANKLIN SHUTTLE DID THEY CONSIDER THIS PLAN.

1)EXTEND HANOVER PLACE(ITS BET. BOND &NEVINS) NORTH TO JNCT OF

DEKALB&FLATBUSH AND SOUTH TO JNCT OF BOND&SCHERMERHORN.

2)EXTEND NEVINS ST IRT PLATFORM WESTWARD TO WEST OF HANOVER

PLACE

3)BUILD LIGHTRAIL/TROLLEY/PEOPLE MOVER FROM DEKALB AVE STATION TO

HOYT/SCHERMERHORN .

4)DISMANTLE FRANKLIN SHUTTLE&CREATE AN ALLEE//PARK IN THE ROW.

 

Hanover Place is in downtown running between Fulton and Livingston Streets, right near the IHOP and the Greyhound Lines building. What does that have to do with the Franklin Avenue Shuttle, and why would you think that anyone would knock down buildings to extend an essentially-useless unidirectional, one-block-long street?

[Milan 0]

sorry about caps.

to clarify:

Proposal is to build an underground line

below Hanover place.

Proposed line is a shorter replacement for Franklin shuttle.

Franklin shuttle's main purpose is to connect

Brighton, Fulton & IRT lines.

Hanover Place connection does the same AND connects

also crosstown line and fulton express to IRT&Brighton & 4th avenue local.

[NX Express 292]

When the was rehabbing the Shuttle, why did they make it one track? :mad: It really limits capacity and flexibility. For example, in an emergency G.O., a full train can't reach Fulton Street without causing backup. :confused::tdown:

[Eric B 1,073]

Cheap money saving measure. They did leave provisions for adding a second track back, though they would have to reconfigure the station platforms.

[Grand Concourse 2,690]

It's going to be tricky at Park place. Yes the rennovations are nice, but really short sighted the way they rebuilt the line. It's bad enough the platforms can't hold a 300' train, but it's another for platforms to be built over the track bed.

[KeystoneRegional 246]

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[Grand Concourse 2,690]

I think overall the line can get away with extending the platforms at the Franklin and Botanical gardens stops. The main problem is Park Place where they may need to build a cross over to connect the 'n/b' platform to the south bound one [which will have to be moved over so they can fit back the original s/b track].

 

I also wished the curve at the s/b side of the shuttle heading to Prospect Park wasn't so sharp. It would be nice if they could rebuild that.*

 

* I know it'll never be done, but I was thinking: what if they have the shuttle tracks enter into the express tracks and the outer tracks be used by the Manhattan Bridge bound trains? That way the curve from the shuttle entering the s/b side of Prospect park would not be so sharp as it is.

[Bill from Maspeth 1,795]

The future is the line staying the way it is today.

[Far Rock Depot 1,291]

The Q35 goes to 116st right or what? I know from there i could transfer to a Q22, and itll drop me off right on my street.

 

i used to make that trip. i once dated a woman in sheepshead bay. the Q22 to B147 St. get off and the Q35 makes the same stop. take that to Kings Plaza mall. In front of the mall, the B2 picks up at the first bus stop. Or you can take the Q35 to Fillmore ave (next to the Flatbush bus depot) and take the B100. Its a helluva lot quicker than the subway. Sorry to go off topic. Man that trio brings back memories. Lol

[Grand Concourse 2,690]

The future is the line staying the way it is today.

 

Yeah, sadly so.

[8 Av/Fulton Exp 0]

dismantle the Franklin my beloved shuttle? have you gone mad???bad enough they closed down Dean St.

[Joe 781]

What's wrong with the shuttle as it is today?

[BroadwayBuffer 40]

What's wrong with the shuttle as it is today?

 

Nothing really wrong, but it shouldn't have been rebuilt with such narrow limitations. Ideally, it should have been built to accommodate full length trains so that Brighton trains could terminate there in the even of a GO or service disruption.

[Joe 781]

Nothing really wrong, but it shouldn't have been rebuilt with such narrow limitations. Ideally, it should have been built to accommodate full length trains so that Brighton trains could terminate there in the even of a GO or service disruption.

 

In a perfect world sure. Didn't they actually do that once back in the day due to trouble with the switches or tower at Prospect Park?

 

IMO, at least, a lot of these ideas are just pure foam, with little consideration given to finances, feasibility, and demand.