Milan Posted December 10, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 10, 2009 The jamaica line is one of the oldest and slowest in the system. Best way to improve is to cut this in two and connect the eastern portion to Fulton(A&C) subway. Proposal is as follows: 1)Dismantle el between Broadway jnct and Crescent street. 2)Extend Fulton (A&C) from East New York station to Crescent via a subway line under Arlington ave with stations at Vermont st,Barbey st and Highland pl(3 tracks&2 island platforms at this station) 3)Connect ' L' from Bushwick-Aberdeen st. to Fulton line Llberty av (A&C) st. via Conway st&Norman pl with a new station right under the East ny station of A/C(three tracks&2 island platforms) 4)Connect Rockaway line from Aqueduct station to Euclid ave &Highland pl.stations via a new subway under Conduit ave. Service to be rearranged as follows: a)L line 8th ave to Far Rockaway b)C extended to Lefferts. c)A line 207th st to Jamaica center via new connection&old J route. d)J line Canarsie to 71/Continental via canarsie/bklyn bway/6ave lcl//QB lcl. e)M line Metropolitan to 95th st/Bay ridge (all times) f)K line Rockaway park to Highland pl(extend to 207th st. rush hrs) . No more V ,Z&H. Main virtue of this proposal is to divert E riders to A at Jamaica center and use 6th ave-Bklyn B'way connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted December 10, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 10, 2009 Ok, but is there an actual need for this service and the expendature of all this money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted December 10, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 10, 2009 The jamaica line is one of the oldest and slowest in the system.Best way to improve is to cut this in two and connect the eastern portion to Fulton(A&C) subway. Proposal is as follows: 1)Dismantle el between Broadway jnct and Crescent street. 2)Extend Fulton (A&C) from East New York station to Crescent via a subway line under Arlington ave with stations at Vermont st,Barbey st and Highland pl(3 tracks&2 island platforms at this station) 3)Connect ' L' from Bushwick-Aberdeen st. to Fulton line Llberty av (A&C) st. via Conway st&Norman pl with a new station right under the East ny station of A/C(three tracks&2 island platforms) 4)Connect Rockaway line from Aqueduct station to Euclid ave &Highland pl.stations via a new subway under Conduit ave. Service to be rearranged as follows: a)L line 8th ave to Far Rockaway b)C extended to Lefferts. c)A line 207th st to Jamaica center via new connection&old J route. d)J line Canarsie to 71/Continental via canarsie/bklyn bway/6ave lcl//QB lcl. e)M line Metropolitan to 95th st/Bay ridge (all times) f)K line Rockaway park to Highland pl(extend to 207th st. rush hrs) . No more V ,Z&H. Main virtue of this proposal is to divert E riders to A at Jamaica center and use 6th ave-Bklyn B'way connection. Can I ask you a question: do you have the money for this?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted December 10, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 10, 2009 The jamaica line is one of the oldest and slowest in the system.Best way to improve is to cut this in two and connect the eastern portion to Fulton(A&C) subway. Proposal is as follows: 1)Dismantle el between Broadway jnct and Crescent street. 2)Extend Fulton (A&C) from East New York station to Crescent via a subway line under Arlington ave with stations at Vermont st,Barbey st and Highland pl(3 tracks&2 island platforms at this station) 3)Connect ' L' from Bushwick-Aberdeen st. to Fulton line Llberty av (A&C) st. via Conway st&Norman pl with a new station right under the East ny station of A/C(three tracks&2 island platforms) 4)Connect Rockaway line from Aqueduct station to Euclid ave &Highland pl.stations via a new subway under Conduit ave. Service to be rearranged as follows: a)L line 8th ave to Far Rockaway b)C extended to Lefferts. c)A line 207th st to Jamaica center via new connection&old J route. d)J line Canarsie to 71/Continental via canarsie/bklyn bway/6ave lcl//QB lcl. e)M line Metropolitan to 95th st/Bay ridge (all times) f)K line Rockaway park to Highland pl(extend to 207th st. rush hrs) . No more V ,Z&H. Main virtue of this proposal is to divert E riders to A at Jamaica center and use 6th ave-Bklyn B'way connection. Whos going to pay for all of this??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted December 10, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 10, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted December 10, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 10, 2009 this is the defintion of wasteful spending. Has anyone else noticed that since this person joinded, all they've done is make this overblown rerotuing threads that would be just about impossible to do? I agree right here. This is basically a switcharoo right here. I am not understanding Milan's plans at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted December 10, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 10, 2009 :lock: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted December 10, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 10, 2009 this is the defintion of wasteful spending. Has anyone else noticed that since this person joinded, all they've done is make this overblown rerotuing threads that would be just about impossible to do? It's all senseless. People just need to be grateful for the service they have, especially since the MTA is proposing service cuts again. There's only one, or maybe two, service expansion projects that are worthy of discussing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 10, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 10, 2009 this is the defintion of wasteful spending. Has anyone else noticed that since this person joinded, all they've done is make this overblown rerotuing threads that would be just about impossible to do? Totally agreed. The only change I would have is build express tracks on the Jamaica el and build a bypass el on Jamaica Av to Broadway junction to avoid the crecent St curve and the local stops b/w CH and BJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted December 11, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 11, 2009 $$$$$ FAIL!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted December 11, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 11, 2009 Totally agreed.The only change I would have is build express tracks on the Jamaica el and build a bypass el on Jamaica Av to Broadway junction to avoid the crecent St curve and the local stops b/w CH and BJ. Now that's an idea I like. But the problem I see wit that one (other with the money) is where exactly is gonna connect to the mainline tracks at the Bway Junction end. You have yard leads comming from every direction, plus the tracks from the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 11, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 11, 2009 There's a segment where the track 'frame' leads upwards at Alabama Av, that's where they could build the express track from and then it would turn left towards Jamaica Av. Since there's nothing but a cemetary on the left side, the el won't be an eyesore compared to adding another level above the current local stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted December 11, 2009 Share #13 Posted December 11, 2009 Lock please? - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 11, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 11, 2009 lock? Why not a b7? He's just going to post another baseless thread again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted December 12, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 12, 2009 What's a b7? Ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted December 12, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 12, 2009 What's a b7? Ban? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted December 12, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 12, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted December 12, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 12, 2009 Banned= B& = B7 = Kings Highway Bus (you might see that phrase in some cases) It's really a SubChat thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted December 12, 2009 Share #19 Posted December 12, 2009 The only slow section of Broadway Junction is the section. The 1968 Program for Action recommended realigning the line between Broadway Junction and Crescent St. to Jamaica Avenue, instead of Fulton St. This would cost much, much less than the plan you are proposing right now. It would also provide the possibility of express service between Myrtle Ave. and 121st St. (with some reconfugiuration of service), but as we all know this would be a low priority when it comes to capital construction (compared to the SAS and other possible subway extensions like the ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted December 16, 2009 Share #20 Posted December 16, 2009 Possibly, the B.R.T. felt the best route was Broadway to the end then Fulton Street since the Fulton Street El now served Pitken Avenue. To this day, Fulton Street is served, in sections, by I.R.T., IND. and B.M.T.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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