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What's the longest route you can travel using only track connections?

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I've seen a lot of threads about the longest ride you could get on a single fare, with the assumption that you actually ride the trains and just walk to transfer to another line.

 

The idea here however is what's the longest route that can be taken in the subway using track connections to get between lines? The rules are you can't just go to the end of every line and back, you're only allowed to use the same tracks twice if its necessary to advance and then wrong rail backwards to get into a track connection. However, it's totally fine to construct loops as long as you don't end up reusing the same lines. You're also allowed to use track connections that require going through yards.

 

So for example, you can probably manage to loop through Coney Island twice using different lines each time. But you can't, say, go from broad channel to rockaway park and then the other leg of the wye to get across to mott ave and then return to broad channel.

 

Also we may as well have three categories:

Category 1: Your vehicle used is a pair of IRT 51-footers. You may only use A division tracks.

Category 2: Your vehicle used is a pair of BMT/IND 60 footers (since 75 footers cause problems!). You will of course only fit through the B division.

Category 3: Your vehicle used is a pair of IRT 51-footers again, but this time you're allowed to roam both A and B divisions.

For the purposes of this, you may use any existing track connections, revenue or non-revenue, and your subway cars are magically able to operate on de-energized tracks if necessary for a move.

 

Anyway, I think this will be an interesting new way to think of it. Remember it doesn't matter if the route you take would cause 8 million people to miss the subway while you run your hare-brained scheme through, so long as you follow the rules!

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I'm glad you don't work in school car?!?!?:cry::cry:

 

Is the 'De-energized' Track feature available in the all answer categories or just #3?

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I'm glad you don't work in school car?!?!?:cry::cry:

 

Is the 'De-energized' Track feature available in the all answer categories or just #3?

 

It's available in all of them, but probably most useful in 3, since there's such as the link between (L) and (3) where the whole connection is unpowered.

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I'll try (Category 3):

Start at New Lots (3).

Follow the (3) to Utica Av (4).

Follow the (4) to Kingsbridge Road.

Go through Concourse Yard to Bedford Park Boulevard (:P(D)

Follow the (D) to 47-50 Streets.

Reverse onto the (F) to Jamaica-179 Street.

Follow the (F) to 71 Avenue.

Follow the (E) to 42 Street-PABT.

Follow the (A) to Far Rockaway.

Follow the (A)/(H)/(S) to Rockaway Park.

Follow the (S) to Beach 90th Street.

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I think the longest would be taking the (2) from 241 down to Fulton St. for the (A) down to Mott Ave.

 

Umm...I don't see much of a track connection there...

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It's available in all of them, but probably most useful in 3, since there's such as the link between (L) and (3) where the whole connection is unpowered.

 

What purpose does having unpowered track serve?

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What purpose does having unpowered track serve?

 

Unpowered track is generally trackage that only gets used by diesel work trains.

 

For example there's an unpowered center track at Junius Street on the IRT New Lots that heads down into the Linden Shops, which apparently assembles track switches and such. There's another unpowered track leading from the Linden Shops to the BMT Canarsie line at Livonia Avenue, and finally an unpowered track from the Linden Shops to the freight-only LIRR Bay Ridge Branch.

 

So, at Linden Shops, you can transfer equipment between the IRT and the BMT and the LIRR, as long as you have diesel equipment to pull stuff through.

 

You can see the subway connections here: http://images.nycsubway.org/trackmap/detail-linden.png but the connection from the shops to the LIRR Bay Ridge branch is off at the bottom.

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Unpowered track is generally trackage that only gets used by diesel work trains.

 

For example there's an unpowered center track at Junius Street on the IRT New Lots that heads down into the Linden Shops, which apparently assembles track switches and such. There's another unpowered track leading from the Linden Shops to the BMT Canarsie line at Livonia Avenue, and finally an unpowered track from the Linden Shops to the freight-only LIRR Bay Ridge Branch.

 

So, at Linden Shops, you can transfer equipment between the IRT and the BMT and the LIRR, as long as you have diesel equipment to pull stuff through.

 

You can see the subway connections here: http://images.nycsubway.org/trackmap/detail-linden.png but the connection from the shops to the LIRR Bay Ridge branch is off at the bottom.

 

But is it really that expensive to install third rail on 200 feet of track?

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But is it really that expensive to install third rail on 200 feet of track?

 

What purpose will it serve?

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But is it really that expensive to install third rail on 200 feet of track?

 

There's really no point, there's no use for a revenue train to go down into the shops and reverse to connect to the other line, since it connects BMT and IRT. If a move needs to be made through it, a diesel work train can be sent over.

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WHy spend the money for something that won't be used by road trains?

 

Foam dictates that all track must be used in revenue service. Foam knows no limits.

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Foam dictates that all track must be used in revenue service. Foam knows no limits.

 

Bi directional signaling on ALL tracks.

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Probably taking the 7 to coney island, then somehow getting it over on the lex, then go uptown on the lex then downtown on the lex, cross over to the outer loop, go up and down the (1)(2) and (3).

 

- A

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Probably taking the 7 to coney island, then somehow getting it over on the lex, then go uptown on the lex then downtown on the lex, cross over to the outer loop, go up and down the (1)(2) and (3).

 

- A

 

You can't go up and down the (1)(2)(3) you can only use the same track once, excepting when necessary to use it a short distance for a track connection.

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You can't go up and down the (1)(2)(3) you can only use the same track once, excepting when necessary to use it a short distance for a track connection.

 

I believe each line has 2 tracks?

 

- A

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I believe each line has 2 tracks?

 

- A

 

I mean, you can't just go up the local tracks and down the express tracks, you're reusing the same stretch of tracks.

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