w8Hou Posted February 3, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 3, 2010 A growing number of major transit agencies are using federal stimulus money to avoid service cuts - and some MTA board members think it's the right move for New York, too. At least six of the 10 biggest bus and rail systems in the country have decided to spend up to 10% of their stimulus funds to plug budget holes, the Daily News has learned. The Washington Metropolitan Area Transportation Authority is the latest to choose the option. Transit officials in the nation's capital voted last week to use $10million of its American Recovery and Reinvestment Act money, along with revenues from a 10-cent fare hike, to cancel service cuts as they were about to be implemented. "We bought some time," Washington Metropolitan spokesman Steven Taubenkibel said yesterday. Doreen Frasca, chairwoman of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's NYC Transit committee, said the MTA should use some federal funds "to avoid the most egregious of the service cuts" to the bus and subway system. MTA board member Allen Cappelli also said the authority should give the idea serious consideration. MTA Chairman Jay Walder has resisted the idea. He has said the stimulus funds are needed for an even more strained budget that is critical to reliability and safety: the capital construction budget, which pays for such things as track replacement, new buses and trains, and technological upgrades to signals and communications systems. Link: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/02/02/2010-02-02_use_stimulus_cash_to_halt_mta_cuts_board_bigs_urge.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted February 3, 2010 Share #2 Posted February 3, 2010 Nah, that money for maintenance. Cut (or clean up) service. I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted February 3, 2010 Share #3 Posted February 3, 2010 Nah, that money for maintenance. Cut (or clean up) service. I'm good. same here: i would rather lose service now and have the infastructure upgrades that allow for better service tomorrow when the economy is brighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North-Eastern T/O Posted February 3, 2010 Share #4 Posted February 3, 2010 same here: i would rather lose service now and have the infastructure upgrades that allow for better service tomorrow when the economy is brighter. Thanks, These cuts heart the Me and my fellow Transit workers. I stand to loses about 3 years sentry in RTO. SO I hope the people in upper magamant who makes 6 figues a year do something for us them workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted February 3, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 3, 2010 I think we will be alright it's the t/o and c/r with less then 3 years who have to worry they may fall back to extra extra again and it may put a hold on future class pend on the retirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted February 3, 2010 Share #6 Posted February 3, 2010 Nah, that money for maintenance. Cut (or clean up) service. I'm good. From what i hear they arent getting any new trains anytime soon, so Jay already is lying.. No surprise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted February 3, 2010 Share #7 Posted February 3, 2010 From what i hear they arent getting any new trains anytime soon, so Jay already is lying.. No surprise... MTA Going Their Way LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted February 3, 2010 Share #8 Posted February 3, 2010 Just fire 4/5 of the managers and the budget gap will disappear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted February 3, 2010 Share #9 Posted February 3, 2010 As most have said, it would be better to lose service and upgrade the infastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted February 4, 2010 Share #10 Posted February 4, 2010 Just fire 4/5 of the managers and the budget gap will disappear! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted February 4, 2010 Share #11 Posted February 4, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted February 4, 2010 Share #12 Posted February 4, 2010 I would rather have less service now, get the subways, commuter rails & city roads and related infrastructure system fixed up and when the economy gets better and (MTA)'s budget gap get narrower, we get back service, ! Heres the thing people have already had less service for over a year now.... When the got extended to flatbush the line service in the bronx during the middays went from 5 minutes to 10 minutes... The serviuce suffered the same fate extended headways during the middays they just dropped that in there and nobody said a peep... From June to August of last year the Eniter B Div except the went from 8 minutes to 10 to 12 minute headways on Saturdays and soem lines stayed that way on sundays. TA is just setting you up for another fare increase now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted February 4, 2010 Share #13 Posted February 4, 2010 The Washington Metropolitan Area Transportation Authority is the latest to choose the option. Transit officials in the nation's capital voted last week to use $10million of its American Recovery and Reinvestment Act money, along with revenues from a 10-cent fare hike, to cancel service cuts as they were about to be implemented. "We bought some time," Washington Metropolitan spokesman Steven Taubenkibel said yesterday. Unlike the MTA, the WMATA knows how to run a mass transit system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted February 4, 2010 Share #14 Posted February 4, 2010 When the got extended to flatbush the line service in the bronx during the middays went from 5 minutes to 10 minutes.... If you ask me that doesn't seem like too much of an issue. Are the stations north of 149th Street on the even used that heavily (except during Yankee games) to even warrant 5-minute headways for the train. Ten minutes during middays does seem absurd, but if it's not getting the ridership, then I don't see why midday service got reduced. Besides, the is horrendous by itself during middays anyway so making the enter Brooklyn during midday hours was the best thing the MTA came up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted February 4, 2010 Share #15 Posted February 4, 2010 If you ask me that doesn't seem like too much of an issue. Are the stations north of 149th Street on the even used that heavily (except during Yankee games) to even warrant 5-minute headways for the train. Ten minutes during middays does seem absurd, but if it's not getting the ridership, then I don't see why midday service got reduced. Besides, the is horrendous by itself during middays anyway so making the enter Brooklyn during midday hours was the best thing the MTA came up with. Regardless its a service Cut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted February 4, 2010 Share #16 Posted February 4, 2010 Regardless its a service Cut... I see what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted February 4, 2010 Share #17 Posted February 4, 2010 The Washington Metropolitan Area Transportation Authority is the latest to choose the option. Transit officials in the nation's capital voted last week to use $10million of its American Recovery and Reinvestment Act money, along with revenues from a 10-cent fare hike, to cancel service cuts as they were about to be implemented. "We bought some time," Washington Metropolitan spokesman Steven Taubenkibel said yesterday. Unlike the MTA, the WMATA knows how to run a mass transit system. If by "run" you mean crash then yea, your right. You can't compare NYCT to WMATA since they are two very different systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 4, 2010 Share #18 Posted February 4, 2010 He'll never learn. He expects everything to be the same standards as his favorite transit systems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted February 4, 2010 Share #19 Posted February 4, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted February 5, 2010 Share #20 Posted February 5, 2010 I'm thinking the (MTA)'ll benefit from this. I think it's causing them to take a closer look at how they're running things. As long as the money's coming in consistently you can be a careless spender. Let hard times hit, and it's time time to tighten things up, causing a "How can we be more efficient?" attitude. I'm guessing those that play this crisis right'll benefit from it; except for those that want to take the easier way out (e.g. the use of gravity from really high platforms, jumping in front of fast, heavy, hard to stop objects...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 5, 2010 Share #21 Posted February 5, 2010 I'm thinking the (MTA)'ll benefit from this. I think it's causing them to take a closer look at how they're running things. As long as the money's coming in consistently you can be a careless spender. Let hard times hit, and it's time time to tighten things up, causing a "How can we be more efficient?" attitude. I'm guessing those that play this crisis right'll benefit from it; except for those that want to take the easier way out (e.g. the use of gravity from really high platforms, jumping in front of fast, heavy, hard to stop objects...). They won't learn. Mark my words, we will be hearing about this shit over and over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted February 5, 2010 Share #22 Posted February 5, 2010 The Washington Metropolitan Area Transportation Authority is the latest to choose the option. Transit officials in the nation's capital voted last week to use $10million of its American Recovery and Reinvestment Act money, along with revenues from a 10-cent fare hike, to cancel service cuts as they were about to be implemented. "We bought some time," Washington Metropolitan spokesman Steven Taubenkibel said yesterday. Unlike the MTA, the WMATA knows how to run a mass transit system. They won't learn. Mark my words, we will be hearing about this shit over and over and over. Thats why the MTA needs to be disbanded. Privatize the subway or make it a city agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted February 5, 2010 Share #23 Posted February 5, 2010 They won't learn. Mark my words, we will be hearing about this shit over and over and over. LOL [sound of glass breaking] Oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted February 5, 2010 Share #24 Posted February 5, 2010 I'm thinking the (MTA)'ll benefit from this. I think it's causing them to take a closer look at how they're running things. As long as the money's coming in consistently you can be a careless spender. Let hard times hit, and it's time time to tighten things up, causing a "How can we be more efficient?" attitude. I'm guessing those that play this crisis right'll benefit from it; except for those that want to take the easier way out (e.g. the use of gravity from really high platforms, jumping in front of fast, heavy, hard to stop objects...). IF they havent learned yet they will never learn never... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted February 5, 2010 Share #25 Posted February 5, 2010 I find it highly amusing that the people saying cut it it's not an issue don't live in areas served by these lines (or even in ny/nyc). :cool: I've ridden the lex lines for most of their entirety in manhattan, cutting service is a bad idea there. In fact cutting of any IRT service is foolish, the trains all ready carry less than IND/BMT trains do. You want to solve a transit budget problem, you don't cut back operations & raise fares (shoot self in foot night before marathon), you cut management salaries & reduce office expenses before affecting the general public (get plenty of rest on a healthy diet). Since when has any passenger rail based transportation entity done anything but dig a deeper hole with service cuts & fare raising? - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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