Far Rock Depot Posted May 26, 2009 Share #126 Posted May 26, 2009 Actually, the major problem is parts of the RoW has been torn down for either buildings or parking. And the Q53 was technically a Triboro route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted May 30, 2009 Share #127 Posted May 30, 2009 Actually, the major problem is parts of the RoW has been torn down for either buildings or parking. And the Q53 was technically a Triboro route. I think that much of the parking and small buildings along the unused wayside have been erected illegally. I venture that guess because just riding the mainline between Woodside and Jamaica you can see numerous locations where it appears that homeowners have encroached on LIRR property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted May 30, 2009 Share #128 Posted May 30, 2009 i checked an overhead veiw of the Row on google maps and so far ive seen a scool bus parking lot completly block it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted May 30, 2009 Share #129 Posted May 30, 2009 I think that the lot is there illegally, so that would not be a problem. Hell, non of the building would be a problem because of eminent domain or does that only work when the gov. takes land and gives it to private developers (Atlantic Yards Project). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted May 30, 2009 Share #130 Posted May 30, 2009 I think that much of the parking and small buildings along the unused wayside have been erected illegally. I venture that guess because just riding the mainline between Woodside and Jamaica you can see numerous locations where it appears that homeowners have encroached on LIRR property. Yeah, there are some homeowners who claim that the ROW is part of their property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 30, 2009 Share #131 Posted May 30, 2009 Yeah, there are some homeowners who claim that the ROW is part of their property. NY&ARR has this issue in a few spots where people have constructed elaborate gardens & sitting areas, but since they don't encroach on RR operations, they are left in place. The PR fiasco involved in removing such ornamental additions to the ROW would be great, plus they really do no harm, so i'm sure anything not impeding emergency & maintenance access would be left in place. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqueduct Posted May 30, 2009 Share #132 Posted May 30, 2009 This may be more than slightly off topic from the current thread, from what I understand this line being discussed is a dead line. How feasible is it to do a walking tour of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 30, 2009 Share #133 Posted May 30, 2009 This may be more than slightly off topic from the current thread, from what I understand this line being discussed is a dead line. How feasible is it to do a walking tour of it? Quite feasible, but not for the faint of heart. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted May 30, 2009 Share #134 Posted May 30, 2009 This may be more than slightly off topic from the current thread, from what I understand this line being discussed is a dead line. How feasible is it to do a walking tour of it? It was done by some guys from Subchat a few years ago. Here is the page from Forgotten New York. http://www.forgotten-ny.com/SUBWAYS/Rockaway%20Line/rockline.html If people want to make this happen, I'm game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted May 30, 2009 Share #135 Posted May 30, 2009 This may be more than slightly off topic from the current thread, from what I understand this line being discussed is a dead line. How feasible is it to do a walking tour of it? It is perfectly feasible. However if you are not careful you might fall off certain parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnyBrooklyn Posted May 30, 2009 Share #136 Posted May 30, 2009 I would like to go there, is there access? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted May 30, 2009 Share #137 Posted May 30, 2009 I would like to go there, is there access? There is, if enough people are interested someone was talking about an unoffical tour or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted May 30, 2009 Share #138 Posted May 30, 2009 i want to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 31, 2009 Share #139 Posted May 31, 2009 It's documented on http://www.forgotten-ny.com. Edit: Here's the page: http://www.forgotten-ny.com/SUBWAYS/Rockaway%20Line/rockline.html - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted May 31, 2009 Share #140 Posted May 31, 2009 Last real tour i know of had an official lead the tour & the people signed waivers. It's documented on http://www.forgotten-ny.com. - A I know the guy who lead that tour. He was only a C/R at the time of the tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 31, 2009 Share #141 Posted May 31, 2009 I know the guy who lead that tour. He was only a C/R at the time of the tour. Ya, i believe that was talked about on an earlier version of the page i just linked to. I think to avoid conflict the topic about it was removed. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted May 31, 2009 Share #142 Posted May 31, 2009 If anyone is going I'd be interested in tagging along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AA 8th Avenue Posted May 31, 2009 Share #143 Posted May 31, 2009 im game to join in on the fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 31, 2009 Share #144 Posted May 31, 2009 To clarify, the rockaway branch is totally unmitigated in terms of plant growth, animal inhabitants, the embankment has parts washed out here and there, and the bridges generally are either gone, or have the minimal structure type design going on. Part of it is a bus lot. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted May 31, 2009 Share #145 Posted May 31, 2009 How about this.....run a new subway line from Woodhaven Blvd. station UNDER the old right-of-way to connect at Aquaduct or there-abouts with the A line? There would be no problem with NIMBY's, or removing obstructions since built, and would increase property values for those along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted May 31, 2009 Share #146 Posted May 31, 2009 To clarify, the rockaway branch is totally unmitigated in terms of plant growth, animal inhabitants, the embankment has parts washed out here and there, and the bridges generally are either gone, or have the minimal structure type design going on. Part of it is a bus lot. - A So what? I'm up for adventure! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 1, 2009 Share #147 Posted June 1, 2009 To clarify, the Rockaway branch is totally unmitigated in terms of plant growth, animal inhabitants, the embankment has parts washed out here and there, and the bridges generally are either gone, or have the minimal structure type design going on. Part of it is a bus lot. - A As seen from the photo true, this is not true. Since the bridges were made of concrete and some pass over major roads, there are still there. The line is accessible and you can walk on it though one should not venture onto the area near Liberty Ave since there is a TA tower right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted June 1, 2009 Share #148 Posted June 1, 2009 As seen from the photo true, this is not true. Since the bridges were made of concrete and some pass over major roads, there are still there. The line is accessible and you can walk on it though one should not venture onto the area near Liberty Ave since there is a TA tower right there. One bridge burned down & was made of wood. The rest are steel or concrete & steel. One of them is just a basic viaduct style bridge with just enough structure to hold 2 tracks, no sides or walls, just an open type construction. The wood bridge that burned down was similar, but made of wood. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 1, 2009 Share #149 Posted June 1, 2009 Here is a better walking tour of the line. http://www.oldnyc.com/rockaway/contents/rockaway.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Local Posted June 1, 2009 Share #150 Posted June 1, 2009 I used to gain access in Rego Park right off Alderton Street @ Dartmouth Street, it's a small dead end block. Not sure if it's been fenced up, it's been years since I've gone down the embankment. You could also gain access near the ball field on Fleet Street at the bottom of the hill on Alderton, not sure if that has been fenced up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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