Shortline Bus Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share #76 Posted April 3, 2010 Yeah, this brings back memories, I used to watch it on Saturday mornings on channel 4 if I remember correctly. This week in baseball with Mel Allen was another one of my favorite programs. Yup it was on Ch.4 in NYC around 1230-1pm right before the NBC pre game to the 'game of the week' when NBC had the national tv rights to MLB in the 1980's. "Baseball Bunch" was a synidcated (Non network) show as well. Also "TWIB" with oringal host Mel Allen showing week highlights and MLB news was a must watch for MLB fans of the late '70's and 80's as well. The current "TWIB" pre game show on Fox should have a new name it's a totally different show(a MLB "extra/"ET" Magazine type show focusing on players private lives mostly)than from the one of the Mel Alllen days. With so many 'old' shows being brought back on TV, such as "Beverly Hills 90210" to a new remake of Hawaii 5-0" I am very suprised this kids show has not yet been brought back. "Baseball Bunch" would be a perfect show to show during the Baseball Season on Saturday or Sunday Mornings on the new MLB Cable Channel, ESPN or even on Fox-TV. I might watch if done right. Again this was a funny clip and Johnny Bench in this show actually had hair lol.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted April 3, 2010 Share #77 Posted April 3, 2010 Mike Cuellar, excellent Orioles pitcher of the early 1970's has left us. He was 72. Lifetime, Mike was 185-130 with a 3.14 E.R.A. and with the Orioles from 1969-1976 he was 143-88. He closed out his career in 1977 with the Angels. With Dave McNally having left us in 2002 and The Dobber (Pat Dobson) having left us in 2006, Mike's leaving us leaves just Jim Palmer who is 64 now. They all were twenty game winners in 1971 as the Orioles reached their third straight World Series. Mike started Game 1 of the very first-ever American League Championship Series vs. the Twins and in 1970 in Game 1, also versus the Twins, he hit a grand slam to help his cause. Topps issued Mike's final card, 1977 #162 as an Oriole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #78 Posted April 4, 2010 Yup it was on Ch.4 in NYC around 1230-1pm right before the NBC pre game to the 'game of the week' when NBC had the national tv rights to MLB in the 1980's. "Baseball Bunch" was a synidcated (Non network) show as well.Also "TWIB" with oringal host Mel Allen showing week highlights and MLB news was a must watch for MLB fans of the late '70's and 80's as well. The current "TWIB" pre game show on Fox should have a new name it's a totally different show(a MLB "extra/"ET" Magazine type show focusing on players private lives mostly)than from the one of the Mel Alllen days. With so many 'old' shows being brought back on TV, such as "Beverly Hills 90210" to a new remake of Hawaii 5-0" I am very suprised this kids show has not yet been brought back. "Baseball Bunch" would be a perfect show to show during the Baseball Season on Saturday or Sunday Mornings on the new MLB Cable Channel, ESPN or even on Fox-TV. I might watch if done right. Again this was a funny clip and Johnny Bench in this show actually had hair lol.:cool: The Baseball Bunch with Johnny Bench was such a good show they used to have a major league player every week to give instructions on the position they played and when the show was over I would grab my Baseball Glove and practice the new tip they gave for that show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #79 Posted April 4, 2010 This week in Baseball with Mel Allen was the baseball highlights from around the league because most New Yorkers didnt have cable and the only out of town game was the Saturday NBC game and the Monday ABC game. Mel Allen was a great rest in peace, I remember he used to do Yankee games on WHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted April 4, 2010 Share #80 Posted April 4, 2010 I got the annual Sports Illustrated baseball magazine. According to them, the Rays will beat the Yankees in the ALCS and the Phillies will win the World Series. The good news is that Sports Illustrated picked the Mets to win the World Series last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share #81 Posted April 4, 2010 The Baseball Bunch with Johnny Bench was such a good show they used to have a major league player every week to give instructions on the position they played and when the show was over I would grab my Baseball Glove and practice the new tip they gave for that show. I am surprised in this era of recycled everything on TV that not 'reality' that a station like ESPN or even MLB Network would not bring in a new 21st century version of the 'baseball bunch.' Something the whole family can watch even non baseball fans on shows like the brady bunch. Now with maybe the exception of American Idol and the Super Bowl almost none of the shows on TV now cater to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #82 Posted April 4, 2010 Indeed and the thrity minutes on Baseball Bunch went so fast thats how you know it was a great show. Everything is demographics and ratings so sadly you will probably not see another Baseball Bunch unless they put it on the MLB network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted April 4, 2010 Share #83 Posted April 4, 2010 This week in Baseball with Mel Allen was the baseball highlights from around the league because most New Yorkers didnt have cable and the only out of town game was the Saturday NBC game and the Monday ABC game. Mel Allen was a great rest in peace, I remember he used to do Yankee games on WHT. They used to have Yankee games on Wometco Home Theater? Wow, I thought that they showed nothing but R rated flicks. Nothing like trying to identify breasts on a scrambled picture. Ooh, I need aspirin.:confused: I just read that WHT charged $22.95 a month back in 1985. DAMN! I wouldn't pay that for a channel TODAY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #84 Posted April 4, 2010 They used to have Yankee games on Wometco Home Theater? Wow, I thought that they showed nothing but R rated flicks. Nothing like trying to identify breasts on a scrambled picture. Ooh, I need aspirin.:confused: I just read that WHT charged $22.95 a month back in 1985. DAMN! I wouldn't pay that for a channel TODAY!!! Ah yes,WHT, commercial free. Those were the pre cable, pre, remote control days. It worked with a set top box and an outdoor roof antenna. I spent many hours as a pre teen with my eyes wide open watching scrambled pictures on the tv. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share #85 Posted April 4, 2010 They used to have Yankee games on Wometco Home Theater? Wow, I thought that they showed nothing but R rated flicks. Nothing like trying to identify breasts on a scrambled picture. Ooh, I need aspirin.:confused: I just read that WHT charged $22.95 a month back in 1985. DAMN! I wouldn't pay that for a channel TODAY!!! That true. Starting in late 1970's "WHT" was the first cable/pay tv service home of the Yankees. Maybe Nel can confirm but WHT showed most of the weeknight home games at Yankee Stadium while WPIX TV showed almost all of the weekend games and most of the game in middle of summer from late June-Early Sept. During the late '70/early 80's the Yankees announcing crew from what my family and also was on "WHT" Mel Allen, Fran Healy and Phil Rizzuto on the cable side doing about 30-40 game a season mostly home games. While the WPIX and the radio i think WINS-AM and later WABC was Rizzuto, Bill White and Frank Messer. In last 30 years the Yanks Cable TV homes have been 'WHT" then "MSG Network" for close to 20 years than around 2002 "Yes." Most of the MSG years the main announcing crew was mainly Dewayne Stats now the Rays lead announcer, former NBC Game of Week Color Anaylst Tony Kubeck and later former Twins and Cards Great Pitcher Jim Katt. Greg Gumbel and later Al Twauick would be the pre/post game host and middle innings play-play for Yanks in the MSG years. For the Mets their cable tv home has been only "Sportscenter' later renamed Fox Sports Net when Rupert Mudrock brought it. Then around 2006 Fred Wilpon and Comcast founded and created the Mets own cable tv channel "Sportsnet" New York. Mets announcing crew has not changed whole alot compared to alot of MLB teams. Until around 1983 it was their oringal 3-men crew of Bob Murphy, Linday Nelson and Ralph Kiner on both TV and Radio. 1983 saw another long time tenure for the Mets broadcast teams of Bob Murphy and Gary Thorne on radio and on TV, Kiner, Fran Healy(Cable TV games only)Tim McCarver and Steve Sarbrasky(spell check.) More recent around a decade ago when Mets last made WS, TV side on Fox Sports Net, Howie Rose, Fran Healy, Tom Seaver and Ralph Kiner while on 'free' TV it was Gary Thorn and Tom Seaver. Radio had crew of Bob Murphy ending his great carrer and his heir apperent then a young man Gary Cohen. NYC has always been blessed and lucky to have some of the best Baseball and even sports announcer ever do play-play announcing for the Yanks, Mets and going old school the Dodgers and Giants as well.:tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #86 Posted April 4, 2010 "For the Mets their cable tv home has been only "Sportscenter' later renamed Fox Sports Net when Rupert Mudrock brought it." It was called SportsChannel. Back in the early 80's I watched the Mets on WOR channel 9. They Benny Hill Show used to be on before a Mets game at night(8:05pm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share #87 Posted April 4, 2010 "For the Mets their cable tv home has been only "Sportscenter' later renamed Fox Sports Net when Rupert Mudrock brought it." It was called SportsChannel. Back in the early 80's I watched the Mets on WOR channel 9. They Benny Hill Show used to be on before a Mets game at night(8:05pm) True thanks for correction. Just another mistype locomotion. Matter of fact the Mets were on Ch.9 from their start in 1962(Ch.9 used to years ago was the tv home in nyc of the Brooklyn Dodgers as well)until around 1998. Then from 1999 on, Ch. 11 after Fox-5 grabbed the local 'free tv' to the Yankees(Fox 5 now also own Ch.9) the Mets shifted to ch.11. So nothing stays the same in TV. Shifting gears guys will MLB regular season and even playoff aka post season games in 20 years or less be on 'pay per views' such as paying $10-20 per game to watch it? If so which you watch it paying that fee? Many in sports biz predict w/ high costs of showing pro sports on tv many games including even the NFL will be on pay per view down the road in next 5-10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted April 4, 2010 Share #88 Posted April 4, 2010 Shifting gears guys will MLB regular season and even playoff aka post season games in 20 years or less be on 'pay per views' such as paying $10-20 per game to watch it? If so which you watch it paying that fee? Many in sports biz predict w/ high costs of showing pro sports on tv many games including even the NFL will be on pay per view down the road in next 5-10 years. In other sports it's actually happening right now. 10-20% of Edmonton Oilers, Calgary Flames and Vancouver Canucks NHL games are broadcast on PPV; the Canucks have the highest cable tv/PPV ratio with 17 out of 82 games having been designated PPV matches. All teams charge $13 per game, $16 in HD. As a result of the high cost, many fans go out to bars to watch the PPV games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted April 4, 2010 Share #89 Posted April 4, 2010 With Wometco Home Theater, you're speaking about WTVG/WWHT Channel 68 from Newark (now WFUT) and WSNL Channel 67 from Smithtown (now WFTY). Channel 68 used to show the "Uncle Floyd Show", hosted by Floyd Vivino during the broadcast (non Wometco Home Theater Hours). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share #90 Posted April 4, 2010 With Wometco Home Theater, you're speaking about WTVG/WWHT Channel 68 from Newark (now WFUT) and WSNL Channel 67 from Smithtown (now WFTY). Channel 68 used to show the "Uncle Floyd Show", hosted by Floyd Vivino during the broadcast (non Wometco Home Theater Hours). After the "WHT" days EE from about 1985-87, Ch.68 became a local 7-day a week NYC/NJ area "free mtv' playing music videos and programming for hs kids and young adults 18-30. Now Ch 67/68 is part of the HSN home shopping network since around 1987. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #91 Posted April 4, 2010 The day when all sports go to ppv is the day that I cancel my cable tv and throw the tv out with the garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share #92 Posted April 4, 2010 In other sports it's actually happening right now. 10-20% of Edmonton Oilers, Calgary Flames and Vancouver Canucks NHL games are broadcast on PPV; the Canucks have the highest cable tv/PPV ratio with 17 out of 82 games having been designated PPV matches. All teams charge $13 per game, $16 in HD. As a result of the high cost, many fans go out to bars to watch the PPV games. Also couple of NBA teams as well i think mainly the Portland, Org. Trail Blazers showing some home games as well. The reason i think the Oilers, Flames and Canucks also show some pay per view is this. They are not huge cities in Canada like Montreal and Toronto and also in US like NYC, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Boston, etc. The pay per view for those mid/smaller Size teams in Western Canada i guess is way to make up for the less revune that the bigger North American clubs in bigger cities can get from local or regional corporate sponorship that the Maple Leafs, Blackhawks, the Habs, Rangers, etc. could easily get. Back to MLB. I always wondered why clubs like the Royals, Reds dont do to make additional revunes? I do feel some type of pay per view is the future of seeing many games of pro sports sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #93 Posted April 4, 2010 Ah yes,WHT, commercial free. Those were the pre cable, pre, remote control days. It worked with a set top box and an outdoor roof antenna. I spent many hours as a pre teen with my eyes wide open watching scrambled pictures on the tv. LOL Yes WHT showed selected Yankees games that they bought off Sportschannel, who at that time was the cable home of the Yankees,Mets,Islanders and Nets. This was in the 80s when Queens didnt have any cable so at 22.95 it was a bargain you got some Movies, soft core porn and sports I remember they showed the Muhummad Ali vs Trevor Berbick fight. They used to broadcast from channel 68 from like 8pm to 4am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #94 Posted April 4, 2010 After the "WHT" days EE from about 1985-87, Ch.68 became a local 7-day a week NYC/NJ area "free mtv' playing music videos and programming for hs kids and young adults 18-30. Now Ch 67/68 is part of the HSN home shopping network since around 1987. Loved U68 that brings back memories of being a teenager and watching videos all day and from 11pm to midnight was the power hour all heavy metal and they used to show Motley ccue Home Sweet Home. Everyday from 7p-8pm they used to show a different Wrestling Promotion like World Class and UWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #95 Posted April 4, 2010 I think sports staying on cable and free television is essential to sports staying popular. I dont think you will ever see the NFL going PPV because they would lose popularity only fringe sports like Hockey, Boxing and Wrestling can do much business on PPV because they cant get lucrative cable or free television deals like the NFL, NBA, MLB OR NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share #96 Posted April 4, 2010 I think sports staying on cable and free television is essential to sports staying popular. I dont think you will ever see the NFL going PPV because they would lose popularity only fringe sports like Hockey, Boxing and Wrestling can do much business on PPV because they cant get lucrative cable or free television deals like the NFL, NBA, MLB OR NCAA. Nel the NFL is already on pay per view in sense it's called "Sunday Ticket." Granted it a bonus package and all of the main prime time games and playoffs/super bowl are still on free tv and ESPN though. I do think down the road as early as the 2014 season when new TV contracts roll through, that home games in NFL 'not sold out' being on PPV. I think that is a fair compromise as last season ('09 season) due to the horrible national recession, teams like the Lions, Jaguars and Raiders having most of their home games 'blacked out' on their local/regional Fox or CBS stations. And for MLB i do think in next 5-10 years some home games as much as 15-20 games a season similar to the Flames, Oilers and Canucks are doing in the NHL going to PPV only. However i can see by 2015 MLB season most or all of the MLB playoff games being only on Basic Cable like TBS/TNT or ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #97 Posted April 4, 2010 The Sunday Ticket is a form of PPV but those games are free and accessible in the home markets of the teams in that area excluding blackouts. Thats why even if a game is on the NFL Network it must be on free televsion in the two markets that are playing. The NFL realizes that free television and limited amount of basic cable is needed to sustain popularity. In Baseball most teams in large or small markets have lucrative cable telvision contracts with Fox Sports , Comcast or have created their own sports networkthat is more lucrative than the ppv option because most fans are casual and will not shell out 13.00 a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share #98 Posted April 4, 2010 The Sunday Ticket is a form of PPV but those games are free and accessible in the home markets of the teams in that area excluding blackouts. Thats why even if a game is on the NFL Network it must be on free televsion in the two markets that are playing. The NFL realizes that free television and limited amount of basic cable is needed to sustain popularity. In Baseball most teams in large or small markets have lucrative cable telvision contracts with Fox Sports , Comcast or have created their own sports networkthat is more lucrative than the ppv option because most fans are casual and will not shell out 13.00 a game. Although the NFL is still the #1 spectator sport in America, Baseball is a strong #2 in popularity and is the heart and soul aka most important programming for almost all of those local owned MLB sports or also Fox or Comcast regional sports stations and not the NBA or NHL around the country. In other words now in Sports programming in America Nel in 2010, the NFL, College Football, NASCAR, weekend MLB baseball and limit amounts of NBA and NHL coverage are staples of 'free tv." While ESPN NFLN, MLBN and the Regional sports network cover all the rest of sports coverage the rest of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted April 4, 2010 Share #99 Posted April 4, 2010 Got this from the mlb.com Mets fan forum page. 1-CORA 2-CASTILLO 3-WRIGHT 4-JACOBS--WTF? 5-BAY 6-GMJ 7-FRANCOUER 8-BARAJAS 9-JOHAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted April 4, 2010 Share #100 Posted April 4, 2010 It's been a while since I've felt that the Mets are already an also-ran before opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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