R32 3838 Posted April 5, 2010 Share #26 Posted April 5, 2010 How about option 4: send the CI R32 to Pitkin or 207th yard for the A or C lines in place of an R46. Again, the Q needs to be a majority of R160s because of Astoria-Ditmars. And if the G was assigned to CI, the G could be R68s and R160s and that would solve most of the issues about what to do with the excess trains. they don't want no more R32's on the , 20 R32's that were on the and the 10 cars that are on the is going to Jamaica this summer, They don't need them, It would be better for the R32's on a different line, I like them on the , The is boring now, The is going to become 100% R46's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted April 5, 2010 Share #27 Posted April 5, 2010 Thanks for the correction. No Problem, Its Very Hard cacthing it on the , You got to be there at the right time and early too just to cacth it, I was Lucky to cacth it on Black Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted April 5, 2010 Share #28 Posted April 5, 2010 How about option 4: send the CI R32 to Pitkin or 207th yard for the A or C lines in place of an R46. Again, the Q needs to be a majority of R160s because of Astoria-Ditmars. And if the G was assigned to CI, the G could be R68s and R160s and that would solve most of the issues about what to do with the excess trains. Its not that many trains the will need about 4-6 sets=40 to 60cars then the will receive 2-4sets so there may be spares.Which may run on the (B)/(D) or . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 5, 2010 Share #29 Posted April 5, 2010 they don't want no more R32's on the , 20 R32's that were on the and the 10 cars that are on the is going to Jamaica this summer, They don't need them, It would be better for the R32's on a different line, I like them on the , The is boring now, The is going to become 100% R46's. Who's to say there aren't R32s that probably need to be retired? And who's saying the can't have R32s again? I understand R32s are all kept on the because there's not as many to go around anymore, but it can't be the reason to rule out a run on the if there's a situation that requires a train to run. Also if/when the runs, ENY is going to need some R32s for the to bridge the gap since the line will likely be 100% R160s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Beach Posted April 5, 2010 Share #30 Posted April 5, 2010 Yes, the does run 10 trains and not 12-13. The route is only 40 minutes end to end, and then there's layover time at each terminal. When every other gets extended to Astoria at 10-12 minute headways then that's a 20 minute extension to Astoria. That's gonna require ~4 trains, and then the will run local, requiring at least another 2 trains. Also if there is any extras, the whole point of service cuts is to reduce the size of the fleet. They could send some R160s over to Jamaica, but they would probably displace R46s to Pitkin to retire more trains. It's still too early to tell what exactly will happen. Thats wrong,its 12-13 trains. Its highly guaranteed there will be leftover R160 going to JYD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 5, 2010 Share #31 Posted April 5, 2010 Its not that many trains the will need about 4-6 sets=40 to 60cars then the will receive 2-4sets so there may be spares.Which may run on the (B)/(D) or . For the 3rd time: Astoria-Ditmars is the reason why the (N)/(W) have been 99% R160s. When the is gone, those R160s should be going to the and so there would be no issues at the terminal. That would mean R68s would have to be set aside as the extras. And why would the run trains from CIY? There's more than enough trains at Jamiaca yard. The MTA just never chooses to boost service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 5, 2010 Share #32 Posted April 5, 2010 Thats wrong,its 12-13 trains. Its highly guaranteed there will be leftover R160 going to JYD. Are you sure you are not thinking of 2-3 spares for the ? And why would they go to JYD when they are sending off R46s to the ? It doesn't seem to me that they need the extra trains. The (N)/(Q) could use those R160s more than JYD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted April 5, 2010 Share #33 Posted April 5, 2010 For the 3rd time: Astoria-Ditmars is the reason why the (N)/(W) have been 99% R160s. When the is gone, those R160s should be going to the and so there would be no issues at the terminal. That would mean R68s would have to be set aside as the extras. And why would the run trains from CIY? There's more than enough trains at Jamiaca yard. The MTA just never chooses to boost service. You've heard of Put-ins via Sea Beach that's y I said the .That's whack I rather the (Q)'s 68's should go to the since Astoria is gonna be busier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38th Street Yard Posted April 5, 2010 Share #34 Posted April 5, 2010 well i think and heard that the 68/68a may go to the line and they can put the 160 on the it out of CIY and JYD does not like the 68/68A from what i heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted April 5, 2010 Share #35 Posted April 5, 2010 well i think and heard that the 68/68a may go to the line and they can put the 160 on the it out of CIY and JYD does not like the 68/68A from what i heard. You have the advantages over us John,lol.Yea of course they can run a 160 (. J.Jarrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 5, 2010 Share #36 Posted April 5, 2010 You've heard of Put-ins via Sea Beach that's y I said the .That's whack I rather the (Q)'s 68's should go to the since Astoria is gonna be busier.Put-ins, but those trains still belongs to Jamaica yard. You basically ignored everything I said. For the 4th and last time: the N/W right now is 99% R160s because of Astoria-Ditmars because of flexibility to change trains for the respective lines. I suggest you reread what I've posted than to keep trying to argue against my points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandoftheLost Posted April 5, 2010 Share #37 Posted April 5, 2010 Who said Coney Island yard don't like R68's. If Coney island yard were to give up the R68 #2783 - #2924 , #5001 - #5200 send them Pitkin yard. Mta Nyct subway would got lawsuit by rider who uses R68 on Q and B line. why I said it. If R68 were gone out of Coney Island yard. What Rail car will Coney Island yard would use for Franklin Avenue Shuttle line. The rebirth of R32 running Franklin Avenue Shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted April 5, 2010 Share #38 Posted April 5, 2010 Put-ins, but those trains still belongs to Jamaica yard. You basically ignored everything I said. For the 4th and last time: the N/W right now is 99% R160s because of Astoria-Ditmars because of flexibility to change trains for the respective lines. I suggest you reread what I've posted than to keep trying to argue against my points. The N is 100% R160 sometimes the W has 6-8sets of R68's so there not 99% combined yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted April 5, 2010 Share #39 Posted April 5, 2010 Who's to say there aren't R32s that probably need to be retired? And who's saying the can't have R32s again? I understand R32s are all kept on the because there's not as many to go around anymore, but it can't be the reason to rule out a run on the if there's a situation that requires a train to run.Also if/when the runs, ENY is going to need some R32s for the to bridge the gap since the line will likely be 100% R160s. ENY don't need R32's anymore, the Option Order II R160's will full the gap plus ENY is keeping the R42's and getting the 14 R42's that are stored at 207th, 207th don't need thos 20 R32's, The is a Wack line anyway, I rode the R32's on the alot, Jamaica is slated to get those 20 R32's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted April 5, 2010 Share #40 Posted April 5, 2010 Early today around 8:15 or so I saw a R160B signed up as a ( testing the doors opened on the left side while at Avenue M I think that's where I spotted it.Last car # was 8962 which is a Siemens set I didn't realize it was a test train b\c I was on the by passing due to construction it was a last minute look the back door was open as if some crew was going2 step out.I was in shock and didn't get my camera out b\c I thought it was a .It may still be out there idk.Sighting around 8:15 going N/B last car 8962. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Beach Posted April 5, 2010 Share #41 Posted April 5, 2010 Its probally gonna happen then,I'd say buy June it may get the leftover 4-5 R160 sets. They may even do something even more wackier like give the ( the (Q)'s R160 in exchange for R68,who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted April 5, 2010 Share #42 Posted April 5, 2010 i dont know why it needs 160s if it has plenty of R68s to handle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 6, 2010 Share #43 Posted April 6, 2010 Ok, but still why would Jamaica yard need those R32s? I would think it would make more sense to just give 207th/Pitkin all the remaining R32s. God knows Jamaica yard treated them like crap forcing them to run R46s on the E for 1-2 days a couple of years ago. The N is 100% R160 sometimes the W has 6-8sets of R68's so there not 99% combined yet. The W is mostly R160s. Where/when have you seen that many R68s on the W? I can understand maybe tops: 2-3, but you have to be kidding me when you are saying 6-8. I was on the Astoria line last week and in a 30-min span I saw nothing but R160s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 6, 2010 Share #44 Posted April 6, 2010 Some people are just obsessed with seeing R160s on the B. Like I've been stating: "Astoria-Ditmars is the reason why the (N)/(W) have been 99% R160s. They share the terminal and they need R160s there so they can easily change a train to suit the demands of either line compared to the time consuming manual sign changes. When the is gone, those R160s should be going to the and so there would be no issues at the terminal. That would mean R68s would have to be set aside as the extras." So, why people still thinks the R160s from the W will end up on the B, I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted April 6, 2010 Share #45 Posted April 6, 2010 There is thread right under this one about the exact same subject... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Beach Posted April 6, 2010 Share #46 Posted April 6, 2010 So, why people still thinks the R160s from the W will end up on the B, I have no idea. It can happen,like I said there will be leftover R160 from the ,roughly about 5-6 sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted April 6, 2010 Share #47 Posted April 6, 2010 i think all thesr r160 topics need to be merged, we got one here... http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted April 6, 2010 Share #48 Posted April 6, 2010 Thats wrong,its 12-13 trains. Its highly guaranteed there will be leftover R160 going to JYD. How do you know? I'm not including spares when I say it runs 10 trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted April 6, 2010 Share #49 Posted April 6, 2010 It can happen,like I said there will be leftover R160 from the ,roughly about 5-6 sets. And thinking logically: it would make more sense to divide up the W's trains to the N and Q lines because the Q will be running to Astoria. Astoria-Ditmars is in the same boat as Flatbush-BC [for the fact they share the same terminal]: otherwise they could run R62/As on the 2/5 lines. So I'm really disagree about the idea of the B running them. I can be wrong, but I really don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 6, 2010 Share #50 Posted April 6, 2010 It can happen,like I said there will be leftover R160 from the ,roughly about 5-6 sets. More like 12-15 full leftover train sets which would be split amongst the & . It would be cool to see those R160s on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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