Pablo M 201 Posted June 19, 2008 Share #151 Posted June 19, 2008 I heard from my uncle, who works at Castleton, and said that the NG buses won't be going to Castleton because of the problems that they are having. They are switching them to Carey Stengel. He said that there were a lot of problems. I don't understand why there are so many problems with the buses in Staten Island. Sadly the wash in Castleton is damaging the buses so its best to put somewhere temporarily until problems are fixed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted June 19, 2008 Share #152 Posted June 19, 2008 Sadly the wash in Castleton is damaging the buses so its best to put somewhere temporarily until problems are fixed. Surprised they didn't send them to KB then.......... STI damages them, give them to the home of the snail dawgs......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 19, 2008 Share #153 Posted June 19, 2008 According to subchat, 3803, 3806-3813 are now at CAS. Thats funny i went there today i didn't see any VII NG buses at CAS. :confused: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q25toJamaica Posted June 19, 2008 Share #154 Posted June 19, 2008 They're officially going to CS???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycbusfan Posted June 20, 2008 Share #155 Posted June 20, 2008 3800 was spotted by a friend of mine on Kings Hwy. a little while ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 20, 2008 Share #156 Posted June 20, 2008 3800 was spotted by a friend of mine on Kings Hwy. a little while ago. Probaly on its way to floyd benneit field for the bus rodeo... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitGuy Posted June 22, 2008 Share #157 Posted June 22, 2008 Apparently some (buschat) are saying 3800 is simply a demo due to numerous features and details that the normally does not incorporate into production buses (such as pull cords, extra lighting etc.) Also, some are even saying buses 3801 and 3805 do not exist. So this would be interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 22, 2008 Share #158 Posted June 22, 2008 What ever happened to 1292A? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q25toJamaica Posted June 22, 2008 Share #159 Posted June 22, 2008 3800 is gone from the roadeo as of today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted June 22, 2008 Share #160 Posted June 22, 2008 What ever happened to 1292A? It was a Orion test bus so it has been returned to Orion to allow Orion to roll out this bus to test at other companies 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted June 23, 2008 Share #161 Posted June 23, 2008 Apparently some (buschat) are saying 3800 is simply a demo due to numerous features and details that the normally does not incorporate into production buses (such as pull cords, extra lighting etc.) Also, some are even saying buses 3801 and 3805 do not exist. So this would be interesting. Yup, that is correct. Some people pointed it out right from the moment they arrived at the roadeo when they saw pull cords on the bus, I know I noticed that QUICKLY. Now, there were quite a few other things pointed, mainly by Trevor Logan when he took a look at the bus. The bars on the back doors, the schedule racks, the grey walls, the exterior side LED lights, the interior LED lights, and the mirrors, all not MTA specs. Almost everything else was fine. Now, another things, had North Carolina plates in the back, another immediate giveaway. Also, for it to be in service, it must have a license plate in the front I heard, which it didn't have. So, what does that mean, the bus has not been in service. And the other "supposedly* buses that are here, 3801, and 3805, doesn't exist in New York City! I knew it from day one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share #162 Posted June 23, 2008 Yup, that is correct. Some people pointed it out right from the moment they arrived at the roadeo when they saw pull cords on the bus, I know I noticed that QUICKLY. Now, there were quite a few other things pointed, mainly by Trevor Logan when he took a look at the bus. The bars on the back doors, the schedule racks, the grey walls, the exterior side LED lights, the interior LED lights, and the mirrors, all not MTA specs. Almost everything else was fine. Now, another things, had North Carolina plates in the back, another immediate giveaway. Also, for it to be in service, it must have a license plate in the front I heard, which it didn't have. So, what does that mean, the bus has not been in service. And the other "supposedly* buses that are here, 3801, and 3805, doesn't exist in New York City! I knew it from day one. Right, thats still confusing to me, but 3800 is supposed to be a production demo. What if it is built to MTA Specs???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted June 23, 2008 Share #163 Posted June 23, 2008 Right, thats still confusing to me, but 3800 is supposed to be a production demo. What if it is built to MTA Specs???? Then it might just be the real "3800". The one thats here might not be our real 3800. Now, it will go back to Orion, and probably get the changes done and send it back to the MTA. If not, Orion is going to build the real 3800. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted June 23, 2008 Share #164 Posted June 23, 2008 Yup, that is correct. Some people pointed it out right from the moment they arrived at the roadeo when they saw pull cords on the bus, I know I noticed that QUICKLY. Now, there were quite a few other things pointed, mainly by Trevor Logan when he took a look at the bus. The bars on the back doors, the schedule racks, the grey walls, the exterior side LED lights, the interior LED lights, and the mirrors, all not MTA specs. Almost everything else was fine. Now, another things, had North Carolina plates in the back, another immediate giveaway. Also, for it to be in service, it must have a license plate in the front I heard, which it didn't have. So, what does that mean, the bus has not been in service. And the other "supposedly* buses that are here, 3801, and 3805, doesn't exist in New York City! I knew it from day one. when i ask someone about the Orion NG not appearing on Sunday at the Roadeo. he said it was damage, and he also told me the seating arrangement is not official. the total capacity is suppose to be 43 seats. 24 seats in the front 2x2. and 19 in the back. the seating is suppose to be short-coach seats seating. the seats seen at the roadeo was just to test it. he doesn't know about if 3800 is a real bus or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share #165 Posted June 23, 2008 Then it might just be the real "3800". The one thats here might not be our real 3800. Now, it will go back to Orion, and probably get the changes done and send it back to the MTA. If not, Orion is going to build the real 3800. Gotcha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted June 23, 2008 Share #166 Posted June 23, 2008 when i ask someone about the Orion NG not appearing on Sunday at the Roadeo. he said it was damage, and he also told me the seating arrangement is not official. the total capacity is suppose to be 43 seats. 24 seats in the front 2x2. and 19 in the back. the seating is suppose to be short-coach seats seating. the seats seen at the roadeo was just to test it. he doesn't know about if 3800 is a real bus or not. Seems very skeptical. I'll have to look over the specs again, and I don't remember them too well at the moment, been a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted June 24, 2008 Share #167 Posted June 24, 2008 Then if true this is just another demo bus, maybe (if true) that is why MTA is testing this Gillig. Full size tires = better ground clearance, and maybe since Orion can't be on time (running on black peoples times (this is another shot at you the poster Orion also B)), they decided to checkout Gillig. If Orion can't be on time, then it seems someone is breaking contract rules to get buses built properly on time. That 700-800 bus order from Orion, might be cut........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted June 24, 2008 Share #168 Posted June 24, 2008 The MTA need a standard bus which has over 40 seats like back then. the orion V/suburban and RTS Suburban are the only standard buses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share #169 Posted June 25, 2008 Then if true this is just another demo bus, maybe (if true) that is why MTA is testing this Gillig. Full size tires = better ground clearance, and maybe since Orion can't be on time (running on black peoples times (this is another shot at you the poster Orion also B):p), they decided to checkout Gillig. If Orion can't be on time, then it seems someone is breaking contract rules to get buses built properly on time. That 700-800 bus order from Orion, might be cut........ But don't forget that thanks to MTA the rear end of the bus has been redesigned. This is a new option, that so far is exclusively for the TA. The order won't be cut, and Orion is doing everything possible to make sure MTA has the best O7 NG's on the road. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 25, 2008 Share #170 Posted June 25, 2008 From what ive read on buschat this bus is back at orion. Someome spotted 3800 in ohio...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon10314 Posted June 25, 2008 Share #171 Posted June 25, 2008 3800 was brought to Orion in Secaucus, NJ few days ago. Have no clue where it is now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted June 25, 2008 Share #172 Posted June 25, 2008 Orion is doing everything possible to make sure MTA has the best O7 NG's on the road. Then the MTA is screwed BIG TIME!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share #173 Posted June 25, 2008 Then the MTA is screwed BIG TIME!!!! LOL... They want too many options on this bus! For God's sake, I've never known for any bus other than a OTR (MCI) coach to have a rear raiser. But I do think it will be a great bus once it goes into final production. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novabus 5000 Posted June 26, 2008 Share #174 Posted June 26, 2008 Hey do you think that 3800 could be ex 1295. Think about it. 1295 is built to MTAB specs. They probably just changed the back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted June 26, 2008 Share #175 Posted June 26, 2008 Hey do you think that 3800 could be ex 1295. Think about it. 1295 is built to MTAB specs. They probably just changed the back. Thats what some people thought but we don't know. Most are thinking that 3800 is brand new. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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