Jamaica Express Posted April 15, 2010 Share #1 Posted April 15, 2010 For anyone who knows, what were the car assignments to the lines circa (1985-1987)?? I know R-32's were on the , I think and thats all I know actually..lol Any info would be greatly appreciated Also, when did the R-40's & R-42's get blue doors (similar to the R-32's) like in this pic & what was the reason for replacing/or painting the doors blue?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted April 15, 2010 Share #2 Posted April 15, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted April 16, 2010 Share #3 Posted April 16, 2010 This is from the summer of 1980 and is BMT/IND only (sorry for the lack of IRT), but will give you an idea of the variety we had: Subway Cars In 1980: 70(A) R40s 240; R46s 104 70(AA)/70( R38s 160 R42s 96 70(CC) R10s 80 R46s 138 70(D) R32 Brightliners 40; R40M/R42s 180; R44s 96 70(E) R10s 40; R32 Brightliners 20; R44s 48; R46s 112 70(F) R10s 60; R32 Brightliners 20; R44s 48; R46s 120 70(GG) R10s 88 70(J) R27/R30s 106; R42s 32 70(LL) R16s 80; R27/R30s 24; R42s 24 70(M)/70(QB) R27/R30s 176 R42s 70(N) R32 Brightliners 200 R46s 80 70(RR) R27/R30s 120; R32 Brightliners 112; R46s 64 70(SS) Franklin Avenue R27/R30 12 "The Train To The Plane" R46s 21 Notice how diverse the and lines were with four car types though at two-ten car sets each, R32 Brightliners were rare to catch. The had no R44s and the R38s were still running independently on their own. Mixed R40M/R42 sets were popular on the then which was both the Brighton Express and the Brighton Local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted April 16, 2010 Share #4 Posted April 16, 2010 This is from the summer of 1980 and is BMT/IND only (sorry for the lack of IRT), but will give you an idea of the variety we had: Subway Cars In 1980: 70(A) R40s 240; R46s 104 70(AA)/70( R38s 160 R42s 96 70(CC) R10s 80 R46s 138 70(D) R32 Brightliners 40; R40M/R42s 180; R44s 96 70(E) R10s 40; R32 Brightliners 20; R44s 48; R46s 112 70(F) R10s 60; R32 Brightliners 20; R44s 48; R46s 120 70(GG) R10s 88 70(J) R27/R30s 106; R42s 32 70(LL) R16s 80; R27/R30s 24; R42s 24 70(M)/70(QB) R27/R30s 176 R42s 70(N) R32 Brightliners 200 R46s 80 70(RR) R27/R30s 120; R32 Brightliners 112; R46s 64 70(SS) Franklin Avenue R27/R30 12 "The Train To The Plane" R46s 21 Notice how diverse the and lines were with four car types though at two-ten car sets each, R32 Brightliners were rare to catch. The had no R44s and the R38s were still running independently on their own. Mixed R40M/R42 sets were popular on the then which was both the Brighton Express and the Brighton Local. So the M and QB were sharing cars? Were they based out of ENY then or Coney Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted April 16, 2010 Share #5 Posted April 16, 2010 So the M and QB were sharing cars? Were they based out of ENY then or Coney Island That was a sad period for the 70(QB) now . The 70(QB) ran 57th Street-Seventh Avenue to Coney Island but Rush Hours only (like an hour to an hour and a half) and was like a supplemental train to the 70(N) and 70(M). Those days, IIRC, CI since the 70(M) ran Metro Avenue to Coney Island weekdays 6am to approximately 8pm. The 70(AA) turned into the 70(B) from Washington Heights-168th Street during Rush Hours which was a good thing since the 70(B) served both 168th Street and 57th Street-Sixth Avenue after the cancellation of the on Friday August 27,1976. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Express Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted April 16, 2010 This is from the summer of 1980 and is BMT/IND only (sorry for the lack of IRT), but will give you an idea of the variety we had: Subway Cars In 1980: 70(A) R40s 240; R46s 104 70(AA)/70( R38s 160 R42s 96 70(CC) R10s 80 R46s 138 70(D) R32 Brightliners 40; R40M/R42s 180; R44s 96 70(E) R10s 40; R32 Brightliners 20; R44s 48; R46s 112 70(F) R10s 60; R32 Brightliners 20; R44s 48; R46s 120 70(GG) R10s 88 70(J) R27/R30s 106; R42s 32 70(LL) R16s 80; R27/R30s 24; R42s 24 70(M)/70(QB) R27/R30s 176 R42s 70(N) R32 Brightliners 200 R46s 80 70(RR) R27/R30s 120; R32 Brightliners 112; R46s 64 70(SS) Franklin Avenue R27/R30 12 "The Train To The Plane" R46s 21 Notice how diverse the and lines were with four car types though at two-ten car sets each, R32 Brightliners were rare to catch. The had no R44s and the R38s were still running independently on their own. Mixed R40M/R42 sets were popular on the then which was both the Brighton Express and the Brighton Local. Okk thanks. I know in 1981 the R-44's were taken off the (due to complaints from ppl who lived along the Brighton Line) and moved to I think the or the And from the pics I've seen, Im assuming the 1985 Manhattan Bridge project shifted most R-40's to the & . Im also assuming (Based on Pics)..that during some point between 84 and 86 the became mostly R-32 and that the R-46's from that line went to the . From what I've read it sounds like the (NYCTA) tried to keep the R-44's/46's on popular express lines such as the . Most pics I've seen of the were R-40's & 42's. If I recall correctly, R-32's didn't start going to the until after the returned from overhall in the late 80's/early 90's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted April 16, 2010 Share #7 Posted April 16, 2010 That was a sad period for the 70(QB) now . The 70(QB) ran 57th Street-Seventh Avenue to Coney Island but Rush Hours only (like an hour to an hour and a half) and was like a supplemental train to the 70(N) and 70(M). Those days, IIRC, CI since the 70(M) ran Metro Avenue to Coney Island weekdays 6am to approximately 8pm. The 70(AA) turned into the 70(B) from Washington Heights-168th Street during Rush Hours which was a good thing since the 70(B) served both 168th Street and 57th Street-Sixth Avenue after the cancellation of the on Friday August 27,1976. According to my 1979 map, it was the , they used the to designate ones that went to 168 and for the ones that ended at 57 St-Ave of Americas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Express Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share #8 Posted April 16, 2010 The (AA) turned into the which ran all times except Rush Hrs and Nights. The operated to 168 St during Rush Hours, simultaneously with the ( that was operating to 57th St. CPW service was also served by the Rush Hour Only , so with both the & serving CPW during these hrs, there was no need for the to operate at these times. In 1988 when the south side of the Manhattan Brige closed the went to 168 St on weekdays (all times except nights) while the (Q6) served 57th St. On weekends the went to 57th St while the went to 168th. The was eliminated or "absorbed" by expanded service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted April 16, 2010 Share #9 Posted April 16, 2010 By 1985-1987, the general idea was:(Basing this off of foggy memories of assignment lists) A: R38/R44 BX/K: R42 BK: R30/R40S C: R10 (R27/R30s will start to show up at the end of this period) DX: R32/R40M/R42 DK: R32/R40M/R42, being rapidly replaced by R68 E: R46 F: R46 G: R32 (Might have a few R10) H:R10 J: R16/R27/R30/R42 (Might have a few R10) JFK: R46 L: R16/R27/R30/R42 (Might have a few R10) M/Q: R16/R27/R30/R32/R42 (Might have a few R10) N: Big mix, some R32 but mostly R46 R: R27/R30/R32 (Not entirely sure here...) S: R27/R30, phasing into R32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted April 17, 2010 Share #10 Posted April 17, 2010 This is from the summer of 1980 and is BMT/IND only (sorry for the lack of IRT), but will give you an idea of the variety we had: Subway Cars In 1980: 70(A) R40s 240; R46s 104 70(AA)/70( R38s 160 R42s 96 70(CC) R10s 80 R46s 138 70(D) R32 Brightliners 40; R40M/R42s 180; R44s 96 70(E) R10s 40; R32 Brightliners 20; R44s 48; R46s 112 70(F) R10s 60; R32 Brightliners 20; R44s 48; R46s 120 70(GG) R10s 88 70(J) R27/R30s 106; R42s 32 70(LL) R16s 80; R27/R30s 24; R42s 24 70(M)/70(QB) R27/R30s 176 R42s 70(N) R32 Brightliners 200 R46s 80 70(RR) R27/R30s 120; R32 Brightliners 112; R46s 64 70(SS) Franklin Avenue R27/R30 12 "The Train To The Plane" R46s 21 Notice how diverse the and lines were with four car types though at two-ten car sets each, R32 Brightliners were rare to catch. The had no R44s and the R38s were still running independently on their own. Mixed R40M/R42 sets were popular on the then which was both the Brighton Express and the Brighton Local. In the fall, things had become normalized again. 44's back on A and D, 46's all on E and F (and JFK), and off of N (now all 32's) until another couple years; 10's on C and G only. There were 32's on G, and there still seemed to be some on the F for a while. By the following year, E/F were entirely 46, and the 44's were gone completely for a couple of years, and returned all on the A. R also had 42's. So D, M/QB and R were basically the same equipment, except the the 42's were divided among the lines according to number range. (4500's-R, 46-700's- D, 48-900's, M/Q). 38's briefly spread to all the CI lines, and then went to the A permanenty, and were replaced by the slants, which also were eventually on all the CI lines until they went for rebuilding. 42's eventually were in Concourse and ENY only. So that brings you up to the '85-87 period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted April 17, 2010 Share #11 Posted April 17, 2010 In the fall, things had become normalized again. 44's back on A and D, 46's all on E and F (and JFK), and off of N (now all 32's) until another couple years; 10's on C and G only. There were 32's on G, and there still seemed to be some on the F for a while. By the following year, E/F were entirely 46, and the 44's were gone completely for a couple of years, and returned all on the A. R also had 42's. So D, M/QB and R were basically the same equipment, except the the 42's were divided among the lines according to number range. (4500's-R, 46-700's- D, 48-900's, M/Q). 38's briefly spread to all the CI lines, and then went to the A permanenty, and were replaced by the slants, which also were eventually on all the CI lines until they went for rebuilding. 42's eventually were in Concourse and ENY only. So that brings you up to the '85-87 period. Isnt there about 500 R32s, seems like they werent using a lot of them back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nel070 Posted April 17, 2010 Share #12 Posted April 17, 2010 Isnt there about 500 R32s, seems like they werent using a lot of them back then No those were 46s because they were haveing a problems with the Trucks cracking many of them were at Pitkin unused or were used part time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted April 17, 2010 Share #13 Posted April 17, 2010 No those were 46s because they were haveing a problems with the Trucks cracking many of them were at Pitkin unused or were used part time. I know that but I do also know that theres around 500 R32s and it seems they are only using half of them in the car assingments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted April 18, 2010 Share #14 Posted April 18, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted April 18, 2010 Share #15 Posted April 18, 2010 Isnt there about 500 R32s, seems like they werent using a lot of them back then There were 600 R32's and they were spread all around: AA/B, D, G, M, N, Q, R (including on some lines in that list where they were not mentioned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Express Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share #16 Posted April 21, 2010 The R-46's were all on the and the JFK Express..right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted April 21, 2010 Share #17 Posted April 21, 2010 The R-46's were all on the ..right? Plus the and the "The Train To The Plane" during the summer of 1980. B.M.T. routes ran the R16s, R27/R30s and R32 Brightliners. R10s were the oldest subway cars in revenue service then On the I.R.T. routes, the R12s saw September 1981 and the R14s and R15s December 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSmith Posted April 21, 2010 Share #18 Posted April 21, 2010 The R-46's were all on the and the JFK Express..right? Not the . Sometimes the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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