metsfan 2 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #26 Posted May 7, 2010 They did offer the service at regular PATH fare, right? If they did, it was a steal, compared to what other services were charging. Some of the trains actually have 33-wtc as a signage option, the indicators on the side have 33 and wtc lit in that instance. Asked an engineer to show me when i was riding the wtc loop to kill time meeting my girlfriend at exp. The cars without this simply have the endpoint destination lit. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe 781 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #27 Posted May 7, 2010 I was on PATH once, from 14th to NWK. Newark was no bargain, not going back there any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty 4 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #28 Posted May 7, 2010 I was on PATH once, from 14th to NWK. Newark was no bargain, not going back there any time soon. Newark's a nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe 781 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #29 Posted May 7, 2010 Newark's a nightmare It's like Brooklyn, but in another state and it takes longer to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty 4 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #30 Posted May 7, 2010 It's like Brooklyn, but in another state and it takes longer to get to. Probably worse. There are some sections of Brooklyn that are fairly decent (note the word fairly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 35 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #31 Posted May 7, 2010 Some of the trains actually have 33-wtc as a signage option, the indicators on the side have 33 and wtc lit in that instance. Asked an engineer to show me when i was riding the wtc loop to kill time meeting my girlfriend at exp. The cars without this simply have the endpoint destination lit. - A Erm, its not the hardest thing in the world for PATH to sign up every train on a 33rd-WTC run. The rollsigns up front (whoopie-do). The side designation signs, just the flick of a switch. Marker lights, another flick. I'm sure the PA-5s have program for 33rd-WTC if ever that needs to happen again (i.e. another MTA strike). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 35 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #32 Posted May 7, 2010 Newark's a nightmare Not at all. If you know how to move around Newark, you'll be a-ok. Jersey City is exactly the same. The true nightmare of NJ is Camden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain 3,120 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #33 Posted May 7, 2010 I took a PATH train using the new PA-5 cars and talked to the conductor, and he's telling me the PA-5's are garbage. I took it from Hoboken to World Trade Center. Newark-WTC and 33rd Street-Journal Square, now those are good runs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 35 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #34 Posted May 7, 2010 I took a PATH train using the new PA-5 cars and talked to the conductor, and he's telling me the PA-5's are garbage. I took it from Hoboken to World Trade Center. Newark-WTC and 33rd Street-Journal Square, now those are good runs too. The crews are not liking them, especially the old timers, but they're performing just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover 577 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #35 Posted May 7, 2010 Stations I used: 33rd St 23rd St 9th St Christopher St World Trade Center Exchange Place Pavonia-Newport Hoboken Journal Sq Harrison Newark Penn Station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith 9,184 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #36 Posted May 7, 2010 I remembered how the train would turn around the WTC loop and there were the letters WTC hung up on the wall. It was striking. I remember so much about that old WTC station, especially when the trains would idle, it would echo throughout the station, hearing the motors from the mezzanine level (not the mall) was probably the best way to know if the train is there or not, since you can hear the motors echo throughout that area as well. I miss the old WTC station so much. The dark mood it gave off was the biggest attraction for me. If only 9/11 never happened. You & me both... Just for the nostalgia (from NYCSR): Ugh, stop it, you're killing me here!! :cry::cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty 4 Posted May 7, 2010 Share #37 Posted May 7, 2010 I remember so much about that old WTC station, especially when the trains would idle, it would echo throughout the station, hearing the motors from the mezzanine level (not the mall) was probably the best way to know if the train is there or not, since you can hear the motors echo throughout that area as well. You & me both... Ugh, stop it, you're killing me here!! :cry::cry: Sorry man, I just can't help it. The old station, IMO, is the best of all time. The dark tone of the station is relative to the "Space Age" stations like the DC Metro and Bart, if you so realise. The Calatrava station is aesthetically nice, but a bit OD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen 4 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #38 Posted May 8, 2010 The Calatrave station looks like it was designed by a New School student who was high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local 18 Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share #39 Posted May 8, 2010 Some wonderful pics of the old World Trade Center station. :cry: :cry: :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty 4 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #40 Posted May 8, 2010 The Calatrave station looks like it was designed by a New School student who was high. It's overdone and costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse 2,690 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #41 Posted May 8, 2010 It's totally unnecessary. The very first 'structure' post 9/11 was just fine. PATH is not GCT, it doesn't need such an over elaborate station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional 246 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #42 Posted May 8, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse 2,690 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #43 Posted May 8, 2010 The state is broke, why would they waste money to make the station 'look cool'? That's a major waste. Just fix it up to serve a job. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional 246 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #44 Posted May 8, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith 9,184 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #45 Posted May 8, 2010 Not at all. If you know how to move around Newark, you'll be a-ok. Jersey City is exactly the same. The true nightmare of NJ is Camden. I agree 100%, I've been around parts of Newark and it doesnt seem to be that bad, especially now that the area is getting back up on its feet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe 282 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #46 Posted May 8, 2010 I agree 100%, I've been around parts of Newark and it doesnt seem to be that bad, especially now that the area is getting back up on its feet again. Just stay away from Irvington lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty 4 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #47 Posted May 8, 2010 Well, the old station does look a little overdone and costly but the main thing is that NYC Stations shouldn't be so lame and cheap looking, we need some style and uniqueness in each and every station. But, the sad thing is this station is now gone, and I and am sure others miss it, ... If you read carefully, I said that the NEW station is overdone and costly. We really don't need too much frills especially in these times. Sure, it may look like a sign of hope and stuff. But IMO it's too opulent for a station that serves a certain number of people. Had this station have more importance, such as a NJT or a LIRR line, then yeah, it would deem appropriate IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse 2,690 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #48 Posted May 8, 2010 Umm, WTC Path Station is a second gateway of NYC (for EWR passengers) so coolness is the factor! I would spend money for reputation of a City and State. Like Jamaica although smells bad but the station is at least looks better than others (when it got built)... It's one station, it isn't even a complex like Fulton St. Who cares that it connects two states? That doesn't justify the absurd costs of it. Plus the PATH is more like a subway, it only connects two states, otherwise it doesn't make the station any special. Jamacia -LIRR- is a major transfer point for many lines that deserves the upgrade it got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty 4 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #49 Posted May 8, 2010 It's one station, it isn't even a complex like Fulton St. Who cares that it connects two states? That doesn't justify the absurd costs of it. Plus the PATH is more like a subway, it only connects two states, otherwise it doesn't make the station any special. Jamacia -LIRR- is a major transfer point for many lines that deserves the upgrade it got. Totally agree. The idea to erect a "Grand Central in Lower Manhattan" is but a joke. That money that was allocated to build such a costly project could have been used for something else, like fund the cultural centre or one of Silverstein's towers. Or even get the FSTC done faster. However, if the new station will have a definite link to the airport via rail access, or a connection to bona fide commuter rail, then arguably, it would be appropriate. TBH, that thing looks appropriate for an airport rail connection due to its grace. If you look at the inside view (the renderings), the thing is way too overachieved for a simple rapid transit terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse 2,690 Posted May 8, 2010 Share #50 Posted May 8, 2010 Totally agreed. And I'm not sure there's really a need for such a rail link because riders can transfer from the AirTrain to the A to lower manahttan to get to the Path WTC station. So yeah it'll be a pita transfer wise, but the 'lines' are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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