Joe Posted May 23, 2010 Share #26 Posted May 23, 2010 Just use common sense, sheesh, don't they have an entire documented photostory of a trip on oldnyc? It's really not that big of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted May 23, 2010 Share #27 Posted May 23, 2010 1) the trackway is littered with downed trees, dead animals (I saw a dead raccoon :eek:) 2) The trackway ends because a nasty tree collapse rendered the area impassable. Have to climb a very nasty steep hill to get up. 3) Even if you do get ahead of that (doubt it), the tracks end with some barbwire fence. 4) High bug count 5) High probability of tripping on things. This list is a bit specific from someone who is trying to convince another person not to trespass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted May 23, 2010 Share #28 Posted May 23, 2010 This list is a bit specific from someone who is trying to convince another person not to trespass. I made the f*ckin' mistake of goin' down there....put it like this.....I was covinced by a fellow assho-----railfan to go down there with him......I bailed after a few minutes here's the kicker...a few people were there too (a man and his kids roaming about) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted May 23, 2010 Share #29 Posted May 23, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 23, 2010 Share #30 Posted May 23, 2010 UH-OH! SUPERCITIZEN is going to alert the police. RED ALERT! RED ALERT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted May 23, 2010 Share #31 Posted May 23, 2010 I went down there, but I thought it was open to the public......till the nasty fence. UH-OH! SUPERCITIZEN is going to alert the police. RED ALERT! RED ALERT! GET THE AMBALAMPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Posted May 23, 2010 Share #32 Posted May 23, 2010 You are not being rude, you're being stupid. there doesn't need to be a fence, there doesn't need to be a sign. the law says that a person may not be on someone Else's property without their permission, they don't need a sign and they don't need a fence. and there are, by the way, lots of fences. It's not part of the park, you can't be there. If I ever see you down there, I will alert the police, and they will lock you up. Too many railfans are getting like you, ignoring the law for the sake of fufilment in the hobby. Mr. Shatner can say it best Yo why you going so hard for? Let him do what he got to do. Why don't you get a life instead of being a buzz-kill. You and several people already told him that it is illegal and in any point I haven't seen a source declaring that going through that trail is against the law or trespassing on government property (The state owns it.) Like you said there's no signs, how do you know that it is illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted May 23, 2010 Share #33 Posted May 23, 2010 Like you said there's no signs, how do you know that it is illegal? well.....the barbed wire fence...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Posted May 23, 2010 Share #34 Posted May 23, 2010 well.....the barbed wire fence...... Is it around the whole place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted May 23, 2010 Share #35 Posted May 23, 2010 Is it around the whole place? on the southern end, yes http://maps.google.com/maps?q=brooklyn&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Brooklyn,+Kings,+New+York&gl=us&ei=6KL4S7TsGoP78Abf_JzECg&ved=0CCQQ8gEwAA&ll=40.698202,-73.849459&spn=0.00146,0.002411&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=40.698253,-73.849274&panoid=f2luZ0dsDnujG9aYUXzlOw&cbp=12,345.61,,0,2.72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share #36 Posted May 23, 2010 You are not being rude, you're being stupid. there doesn't need to be a fence, there doesn't need to be a sign. the law says that a person may not be on someone else's property without thier permission, they don't need a sign and they don't need a fence. and there are, by the way, lots of fences. It's not part of the park, you can't be there. If I ever see you down there, I will alert the police, and they will lock you up. Too many railfans are getting like you, ignoring the law for the sake of fufilment in the hobby. Mr. Shatner can say it best you can call the police if you want but sines nothing stated that it was private property i was just walking threw the woods and found these tracks so try again well.....the barbed wire fence...... the only place that has a fence are where the tracks lead behind peoples houses but the rest of the stretch thats in the park has no fences Is it around the whole place? no it is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted May 23, 2010 Share #37 Posted May 23, 2010 the only place that has a fence are where the tracks lead behind peoples houses but the rest of the stretch thats in the park has no fences That's why I said "the southern end" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted May 23, 2010 Share #38 Posted May 23, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share #39 Posted May 23, 2010 becuase it's not a trail... IT'S PART OF THE SUBWAY! its not part of the subway it was part of LIRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted May 23, 2010 Share #40 Posted May 23, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share #41 Posted May 23, 2010 The whole line, end to end, was given to the TA. It's techicly an arm of the subway system. just because it was given to them dosen't make it a subway line the way it is to this day is still configured as a LIRR line and the TA has done nothing to change it into a subway line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted May 23, 2010 Share #42 Posted May 23, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan05979 Posted May 23, 2010 Share #43 Posted May 23, 2010 Well, honestly, I have walked over the bridge on the Yellowstone area, it was surely wild and abandoned, but they put up the fence for a reason because of teens most likely doing illegal stuff up there or there were homeless or gang activity on there. But, a hike may be okay in ways... Who taught you english & how to put a sentence together & how to make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkseraph Posted May 23, 2010 Share #44 Posted May 23, 2010 Ignorantia juris non excusat, ever heard of it? It's the legal principle stating that the ignorance of a law is not a defense. Thus, extending it to this example would be, just because there are no signs dictating the legality of trespass on this property, does not mean it is illegal, especially since you SHOULD know it's illegal to enter MTA ROW without authority. Abandoned or not, this would be trespass, and if you tried to use your defense, stating there were no signs posted, you'd be put down quite quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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