2Line1291 Posted May 27, 2010 Share #26 Posted May 27, 2010 Long time no see NYCTransitForums B) the is part time = doesnt need to be 10 cars and its 32's might get redistrubuted... so whats the rant all about dude?Just because the is part-time doesn't mean it limited to running an 8-car trainset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted May 28, 2010 Share #27 Posted May 28, 2010 Ride the during the rush and then tell me that it shouldn't be 10 cars. BAM! Rode it today! it shouldnt be 10 cars. its only crowded for about 4 stops in manhattan (CPW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted May 28, 2010 Share #28 Posted May 28, 2010 Long time no see NYCTransitForums Just because the is part-time doesn't mean it limited to running an 8-car trainset. oh sure it does, it also dont run on weekends. as you can see the handles fulton very well as a local without the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted May 28, 2010 Share #29 Posted May 28, 2010 BAM! Rode it today! it shouldnt be 10 cars. its only crowded for about 4 stops in manhattan (CPW) BULLSHIT! Every subway line should be operated at it's maximum length possible. That includes the and the . Due to the fact that I live along the and use it probably more than you do, I can justify that the should be full-length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted May 28, 2010 Share #30 Posted May 28, 2010 Every subway line should be operated at it's maximum length possible. That includes the and the . Due to the fact that I live along the and use it probably more than you do, I can justify that the should be full-length. I agree with you on this one that the and should be full length, let's give the R160s to the and they can be full length, instead of the and . Back to topic, the (A)'s R-32s are running quite well right now, but the line can't run them to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted May 28, 2010 Share #31 Posted May 28, 2010 BULLSHIT! Every subway line should be operated at it's maximum length possible. That includes the and the . Due to the fact that I live along the and use it probably more than you do, I can justify that the should be full-length. hmmm... nah i dont think so. the is perfect as an 8 car 60 footer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted May 28, 2010 Share #32 Posted May 28, 2010 I agree with you on this one that the and should be full length, let's give the R160s to the and they can be full length, instead of the and . Back to topic, the (A)'s R-32s are running quite well right now, but the line can't run them to death. ohh hell no. R160's on the ?? no no no. R32's on the are perfect. the whole line should be infested with R32's. they are great crowd handlers and they move fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted May 28, 2010 Share #33 Posted May 28, 2010 hmmm... nah i dont think so. the is perfect as an 8 car 60 footer Well let's see after the service cuts...if the doesn't go full-length then, THEn we can say that it's justified to have eight cars because it'll stay that way until a new car order comes in (and the order will be five-car sets for uniformity). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted May 28, 2010 Share #34 Posted May 28, 2010 Well let's see after the service cuts...if the doesn't go full-length then, THEn we can say that it's justified to have eight cars because it'll stay that way until a new car order comes in (and the order will be five-car sets for uniformity). Why would the go full lenght after the cuts, there will still be a shortage with all the R44s going by September. Keep in mind that there must be spare train sets for every line in the even t of brake downs. I doubt the or will go full lenght for a long time, there is also a sever shortage of yard space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted May 29, 2010 Share #35 Posted May 29, 2010 Why would the go full lenght after the cuts, there will still be a shortage with all the R44s going by September. Keep in mind that there must be spare train sets for every line in the even t of brake downs. I doubt the or will go full lenght for a long time, there is also a sever shortage of yard space. I doubt the will ever go full length. Look at the way how the MTA treats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted May 29, 2010 Share #36 Posted May 29, 2010 I doubt the will ever go full length. Look at the way how the MTA treats it. It doesn't even go along QB anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted May 29, 2010 Share #37 Posted May 29, 2010 why do R32's have to be @ CI? why would pitkin get an order of 15 or 17 sets of R160's but then have them sent to Jamaica? CI has plenty of R68's jamaica has enough R46 and R160 train sets. 207th has more than enough 8 car R32's for the and pitkin will have a good amount of R46 for line service. after the cut, the car assignments wont leave an excessive amount of R46 trainsets. the is part time = doesnt need to be 10 cars and its 32's might get redistrubuted... so whats the rant all about dude? Why would you run 45 year old R32's on 2 lines that run 7 days a week, the is still perfect for them but the is not, The is a long ass line and its a 24/7 line, The TA want's all the oldest equipment on a line that does NOT run 24/7, The SHOULD have updated equipment, The ( IS A PART TIME LINE, THE R32's would not be a problem on the ( anyway, and if the is in effect, Expect those R32's on the to be elsewhere, Because ENY is going to need extra trains if the is in effect, The R42's will not full the gap, ENY is going to need spares, And I heard from varius sources that they are going to be R32's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted May 29, 2010 Share #38 Posted May 29, 2010 BAM! Rode it today! it shouldnt be 10 cars. its only crowded for about 4 stops in manhattan (CPW) You rode it in the wrong direction then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted May 29, 2010 Share #39 Posted May 29, 2010 Well let's see after the service cuts...if the doesn't go full-length then, THEn we can say that it's justified to have eight cars because it'll stay that way until a new car order comes in (and the order will be five-car sets for uniformity). Does the have some sort of allergy to married pairs? I really think they should forget about uniformity and go back to flexibility. Most other North American subway systems have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted May 29, 2010 Share #40 Posted May 29, 2010 Why would you run 45 year old R32's on 2 lines that run 7 days a week, the is still perfect for them but the is not, The is a long ass line and its a 24/7 line, The TA want's all the oldest equipment on a line that does NOT run 24/7, The SHOULD have updated equipment, The ( IS A PART TIME LINE, THE R32's would not be a problem on the anyway, and if the is in effect, Expect those R32's on the to be elsewhere, Because ENY is going to need extra trains if the is in effect, The R42's will not full the gap, ENY is going to need spares, And I heard from varius sources that they are going to be R32's. ENY already has extra trains...the 99xx R160s, and im sure the 14 R42 spares will go to ENY. so R32's to ENY? out of the question. the yard wont be uniformal, it will be too mixed, unless ENY gives all its 42's to CI and takes some sets from 207 to fill the gap...leaving the yard with R32's and R160's... plus if you say R32's should be on part time lines, R32's on the is contradictory, cuz the is 24/7 i still think Jamaica is going to get a few sets back for the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted May 30, 2010 Share #41 Posted May 30, 2010 It doesn't even go along QB anymore. It rarely has been going to 71st since 2001. It's there on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted May 31, 2010 Share #42 Posted May 31, 2010 ENY already has extra trains...the 99xx R160s, and im sure the 14 R42 spares will go to ENY. so R32's to ENY? out of the question. the yard wont be uniformal, it will be too mixed, unless ENY gives all its 42's to CI and takes some sets from 207 to fill the gap...leaving the yard with R32's and R160's... plus if you say R32's should be on part time lines, R32's on the is contradictory, cuz the is 24/7 i still think Jamaica is going to get a few sets back for the ENY wouldn't have extras if the is in effect, They are going to need the 14 extra R42's from 207th and 20-28 R32's to full in the gap, the (M2) uses about 19-22 trainsets, when it turns into the its going to need more R160's and those cars are coming from the (J)/(Z) around 7-8 trainsets plus some selected (M)'s will start from 179th st during the AM/PM Rush Hours replacing the PM Rush Hour (E)'s out of 179, The PM put-ins from the will start from 71st instead of 179, Heard this from a very reliable source, But that service pattern doesn't make sence but that's the TA. Rerember ENY still uses R42's, I saw one on saturday night on the and one on the on friday. If they scrapped the 179 plan there would be no need for extra R32's, but when you extend you need extras and ENY is going to need spares for this wasted line that is a total waste of time and Money. and the R32 part with the , I really don't know, I heard a rumor that Jamaica might get 5 trainsets back for a reason and I did not hear the , The and has been getting more R160s while the is getting More R46's back, If anything they would throw them Back on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted May 31, 2010 Share #43 Posted May 31, 2010 ENY wouldn't have extras if the is in effect, They are going to need the 14 extra R42's from 207th and 20-28 R32's to full in the gap, the (M2) uses about 19-22 trainsets, when it turns into the its going to need more R160's and those cars are coming from the (J)/(Z) around 7-8 trainsets plus some selected (M)'s will start from 179th st during the AM/PM Rush Hours replacing the PM Rush Hour (E)'s out of 179, The PM put-ins from the will start from 71st instead of 179, Heard this from a very reliable source, But that service pattern doesn't make sence but that's the TA. Rerember ENY still uses R42's, I saw one on saturday night on the and one on the on friday. If they scrapped the 179 plan there would be no need for extra R32's, but when you extend you need extras and ENY is going to need spares for this wasted line that is a total waste of time and Money. and the R32 part with the , I really don't know, I heard a rumor that Jamaica might get 5 trainsets back for a reason and I did not hear the , The and has been getting more R160s while the is getting More R46's back, If anything they would throw them Back on the . The new M needs 5 additional trainsets, supplied by those 9900 series R160's. ENY will have no need for R32's. The M will not come out of 179, only about 6 trains lay up out there (where the t/o's will report, c/r's report at CTL). The trains will operate lite to CTL where they will go into service, reverse the process at night at lay up time. A few E's will still come out of 179 in the AM rush, reverse for the PM, just like is today. Source: you forget I have access to the work programs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrain2012 Posted June 4, 2010 Share #44 Posted June 4, 2010 You got an R32 A-Line train bound for B 116th Street? That's great!! It reminds me of when the R10 thru R30A cars ruled that spur in the late 1980s thru early 90s and it was fun to have the corner cab RFW towards B 116th Street, now, it's mostly full width cab trains going that way, bus hopefully they'll have more R32 A-line trains down to Far Rockaway/Rock Park so that I can relive the late 80s again....... yep they should keep several sets on the A and not only that the C should revive it's route to Rockaway Park during AM/PM weekly rush hours.(A)/© Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted June 4, 2010 Share #45 Posted June 4, 2010 yep they should keep several sets on the A and not only that the C should revive it's route to Rockaway Park during AM/PM weekly rush hours.(A)/© The problem with a lot of R32 sets on the A is in case there is some kind of delay in northbound service or defective train on the stand at 207 St. the south destination sign may have to be changed due to the alternating south terminals.......all 20 of them and no platform conductor anymore. The C will not go to Rock Park in the rush. This would require more trainsets and crews and what happens with the OPTO t/o's at Rock Park in the rush? Are you aware there is a budget shortfall with service cuts looming and you want more service? Ain't gonna happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 4, 2010 Share #46 Posted June 4, 2010 The C will not go to Rock Park in the rush. This would require more trainsets and crews and what happens with the OPTO t/o's at Rock Park in the rush? Are you aware there is a budget shortfall with service cuts looming and you want more service? Ain't gonna happen! Not to mention that when the R30s retired that made things topsy-turvy for B-Division routing and car assignments. We're facing another car shortage with the R44 retirement as well, from the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 4, 2010 Share #47 Posted June 4, 2010 That is where the comes in. By chopping back the (M2) and the , you freed up enough 8-car R160 sets to run on this line and in turn that frees up more R46 sets for the to retire R44s. In the end they might be cutting it close, but with the southern Brooklyn (M2) gone, that's at least some trains to offset a bigger shortage. yep they should keep several sets on the A and not only that the C should revive it's route to Rockaway Park during AM/PM weekly rush hours.(A)/© Aside from the rush hour trains [5 of them], there's no need for anything more than the shuttle. Middays a single 4-car train is more than enough for that segment. There is NO NEED for the to go there. Not to mention unless the people were already using a local stop, more people are going to be on the train than the . You are just going to have 'empty' trains past Euclid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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