Alargule Posted June 14, 2010 Share #1 Posted June 14, 2010 As I already mentioned in my introductory post, I've been working on my own map of the NYC subway system. Yes, competition is fierce (Eddie Jabbour's Kick Map, the Vignelli 2008 edition, to name but a few) in the 'design your own unofficial NYC Subway map'-field...but I'm not out there trying to beat those guys Instead, I've tried to reduce the complex subway system to a more comprehensive level, with the following criteria in mind: Standardized angles for easier navigation; Use as few different station symbols as possible (1 symbol for stations, 1 for transfer stations etc); Make a clear distinction between parallel local and express services; Show routes running over the same track(s) as one bundled line with the same thickness; Do not attempt to show the complex service patterns with all its exceptions to the rule on the map. That's what a service guide is for. Of course, simplifying or reducing a system always means a loss of certain information, e.g. the geographic context, service patterns or the exact layout of transfer stations. But it will hopefully result in a map that's easier to comprehend and easier to use. But I won't be the judge of that, so any comments, suggestions, questions are welcome (click on images to enlarge): And as an added bonus, a map with all the current capital projects completed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 14, 2010 Share #2 Posted June 14, 2010 The ( doesn't go to 205 St. It terminates at Bedford Park Blvd. Other than that, awesome map! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted June 14, 2010 Share #3 Posted June 14, 2010 Very nice map, although may I suggest using a darker blue for the , and lines? The lighter blue is supposed to be recycled for the 2nd Avenue once that comes on line. Also, trains will stop at 49th Street on weekdays, so you should create some sort of symbol that shows the stopping there on weekdays, but not weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted June 14, 2010 Share #4 Posted June 14, 2010 Cool map, Alargule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Local Posted June 14, 2010 Share #5 Posted June 14, 2010 I like the maps, but the second one, the Fulton street transit center also connects the & trains at world trade center, otherwise nice maps:tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted June 14, 2010 Share #6 Posted June 14, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanshnookenraggen Posted June 15, 2010 Share #7 Posted June 15, 2010 crop it a little next time. my older lap top would have had a processor attack. Yeah, I have a high end rig and it was freaking out a bit. Other than that, very nice. What do you use to make them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted June 15, 2010 Share #8 Posted June 15, 2010 Very nice map, although may I suggest using a darker blue for the , and lines? The lighter blue is supposed to be recycled for the 2nd Avenue once that comes on line. Also, trains will stop at 49th Street on weekdays, so you should create some sort of symbol that shows the stopping there on weekdays, but not weekends. Actually, if you look at the he has on there, it's an even lighter blue (closer to cyan or sky blue), and that's the way it's really supposed to be. It's on the coloring used on the SAS maps that it has darkened to be almost the color he has 8th Ave. there, which was what the dark blue was in the 1967 colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alargule Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted June 15, 2010 Thank you for all your comments so far! I first drew this map about six years ago using nothing but MS Paint. Not really a good program for drawing...anything, for that matter, especially not maps that you frequently want to edit. That's why I decided to remake that map using Adobe Illustrator. That provides much more flexibility and possibility to twist and tweak the map into a pleasing result. Of course, the devil is in the details, and since I don't live in New York or even nearby, I simply have to rely on the information I find online. So thanks for any error pointed out As for the size of the map: I do have a smaller thumbnail version, but it was still too big for this forum. I'll try posting an even smaller version. Concerning the line colors: I'd like to use the official colors, but I don't know if the official rgb-codes are publicly available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 15, 2010 Share #10 Posted June 15, 2010 Perhaps, geographically inaccurate with those angles. But hey, who gives? Excellent map. If the MTA had minds, they should use this instead of the nightmare they are coming out with now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted June 15, 2010 Share #11 Posted June 15, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 15, 2010 Share #12 Posted June 15, 2010 They're not going to leave the current format. Ever since 50th and Broadway was shown as being west of 50th and 8th, geogrphic has been the rule for a reason. Fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alargule Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share #13 Posted June 16, 2010 Is that official policy, or just popular belief? I believe the main reason the current map has been around for over 30 years is that the MTA is satisfied with the Hertz design, and not because they want to rule out any diagrammatic map design. Bear in mind that the Hertz map is pseudo-geographic at best: especially Manhattan's geography has been distorted in order to show the subway lines more clearly. The Eighth Avenue, Seventh Avenue, Sixth Avenue and Lexington Avenue lines have all been distributed equally whereas in reality they aren't (there's still an extra Avenue between the Sixth and Lexington Avenue lines). Downtown Manhattan has been enlarged for more clarity. The path of the rush hour express lines (5, diamond 6, diamond 7, D) suggests those lines diverge from the local main line, which they don't. It just looks geographically accurate, but it really isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 16, 2010 Share #14 Posted June 16, 2010 It just looks geographically accurate, but it really isn't. Anything is more geographically accurate than Vignelli's map, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted June 16, 2010 Share #15 Posted June 16, 2010 Actually, if you look at the he has on there, it's an even lighter blue (closer to cyan or sky blue), and that's the way it's really supposed to be. It's on the coloring used on the SAS maps that it has darkened to be almost the color he has 8th Ave. there, which was what the dark blue was in the 1967 colors. Right. I just noticed the second map. Originally I looked at this thread on my iPhone. I must have scrolled too quickly and missed it. I see the difference in the two blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 17, 2010 Share #16 Posted June 17, 2010 By the way, just to note on the capital projects map: While the and the are physically connected (or wil be) to the Cortlandt Street station thru the Dey Street psgway, there is still no free transfer. However, the at WTC will have a free transfer with the Cortlandt Street BMT station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alargule Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share #17 Posted June 17, 2010 Does that mean that passengers actually have to get out of and into the system again in order to make that transfer? In that case, the Fulton St Transit Center stations and Cortlandt St stations should not be connected on the map. Also, I heard of plans to accommodate a free transfer between Jay St/Borough Hall and Lawrence St in Brooklyn. Is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 17, 2010 Share #18 Posted June 17, 2010 Does that mean that passengers actually have to get out of and into the system again in order to make that transfer? In that case, the Fulton St Transit Center stations and Cortlandt St stations should not be connected on the map. Also, I heard of plans to accommodate a free transfer between Jay St/Borough Hall and Lawrence St in Brooklyn. Is that true? Yes, the transfer is getting built right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 18, 2010 Share #19 Posted June 18, 2010 Does that mean that passengers actually have to get out of and into the system again in order to make that transfer? In that case, the Fulton St Transit Center stations and Cortlandt St stations should not be connected on the map. Also, I heard of plans to accommodate a free transfer between Jay St/Borough Hall and Lawrence St in Brooklyn. Is that true? That is correct. The Dey Street passageway lies outside of fare control. I, on the other hand, would widen the passageway and divided it into two, one part being within fare control and the other outside of it. Yes, the Jay-Lawrence project is in the works. It will open next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alargule Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share #20 Posted June 18, 2010 OK, some updates: Fixed the Bedford Pk Blvd error; Tried a darker shade of blue for the Eighth Avenue lines; Corrected the transfers in Downtown on the capital projects map; Added the Jay St/Lawrence St transfer (capital projects map): Capital projects map: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted June 18, 2010 Share #21 Posted June 18, 2010 Looks nice Alargule. Just a heads up: your Capital Projects map's link give me a 404 error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alargule Posted June 18, 2010 Author Share #22 Posted June 18, 2010 Thanks; should be fixed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted June 19, 2010 Share #23 Posted June 19, 2010 Looks great, Alargule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alargule Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share #24 Posted November 10, 2010 OK; I finally got around to making some changes to the map: The blue color of the IND 8th Ave line was too saturated. I used a paler shade of blue that looks more like the color the official MTA map uses; I realigned the IND 8th Ave, IRT 7th Ave and BMT Broadway lines in Downtown Manhattan, to create more whitespace for the station names to fit in. The IND and IRT lines had too many unnecessary kinks for a diagram, so I straightened them. I made a few extra curves to the BMT Broadway line to provide for more space for the station names; The Bleecker St and Broadway/Lafayette transfer is now also shown more clearly as two stations on separate lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alargule Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share #25 Posted December 12, 2010 With the opening of the new Jay St/Metrotech transfer complex, and the renaming of the Broadway/Nassau St station on the lines to Fulton St, I decided to display both station complexes as one station on my map. See the above post, since it directly reflects all the updates I upload to Wikipedia. Also did some other stuff: Dark-color background (whooo!). I believe it makes the lines stand out more clearly - it gives them a lot more 'body' (don't know if that's the correct term to use here); The terminal station names are now shown in italics; I used a smaller font for the other station names, and made those bold, too; Realignment of the Concourse line in the Bronx, which now turns north on the map after crossing the at Yankee Stadium. As always, you're welcome to make comments, suggestions, and to point out silly mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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