St Louis Car 09 Posted June 16, 2010 Share #1 Posted June 16, 2010 Ok this looks like a typical video which is increasing in numbers.cell phone cameras do come in handy.Do u think the cop actions were just or not?You decide below. http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/16/police.jaywalker/index.html?hpt=T2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted June 16, 2010 Share #2 Posted June 16, 2010 The officer is trying to arrest a perp, perps friend grabs the officers hands off the perp and then pushes the LEO? Yes, appropriate force was used. You don't assault a police officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 16, 2010 Share #3 Posted June 16, 2010 cell phone cameras do come in handy. Right, don't come crying to me when the perps start running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messino Posted June 16, 2010 Share #4 Posted June 16, 2010 give me a effing break, arresting jaywalkers? Nah son.. Aint no cops putting their hands on me for jay walking. You cant arrest someone for jaywalking its not a crime..The woman was defending her friend from police abuse of authority... NO COP CAN PUT THEIR HANDS ON ME FOR JAYWALKING... This is why no one respects cops and people sh#t on them..Cops need to worry about crimes, not people jaywalking..The cop was the one who deserved to get a punch to the face.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous85 Posted June 16, 2010 Share #5 Posted June 16, 2010 I don't care a grown ass adult has no right to punch a 17 year old child in the face. He was overreacting in the first place and then when she tries to break it up she gets punched in the face. I hope somebody beats the s*** out of him while he's off duty (or on duty). I hate police brutality and they wonder why people hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted June 16, 2010 Share #6 Posted June 16, 2010 I don't care a grown ass adult has no right to punch a 17 year old child in the face. He was overreacting in the first place and then when she tries to break it up she gets punched in the face. I hope somebody beats the s*** out of him while he's off duty (or on duty). I hate police brutality and they wonder why people hate them. She has no authority to "break it up", once a LEO goes to arrest someone and you put your hands on the LEO, you're interfering with his duties to enforce the law. You also don't go and shove the LEO. If you take it upon yourself to act in that manner, expect to face the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messino Posted June 16, 2010 Share #7 Posted June 16, 2010 She has no authority to "break it up", once a LEO goes to arrest someone and you put your hands on the LEO, you're interfering with his duties to enforce the law. You also don't go and shove the LEO. If you take it upon yourself to act in that manner, expect to face the consequences. Police have no right to arrest someone for jaywalking, at most its a ticket since jaywalking isnt against any civil or criminal law, its a code infraction. 90% of the cops are just power tripping roid rage freaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted June 16, 2010 Share #8 Posted June 16, 2010 Police have no right to arrest someone for jaywalking, at most its a ticket since jaywalking isnt against any civil or criminal law, its a code infraction. 90% of the cops are just power tripping roid rage freaks. Which if that's the case, the judge will toss it out. Judging from the video, I would say she was arrested for something else, disorderly conduct; resisting arrest. Something along that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous85 Posted June 17, 2010 Share #9 Posted June 17, 2010 She has no authority to "break it up", once a LEO goes to arrest someone and you put your hands on the LEO, you're interfering with his duties to enforce the law. You also don't go and shove the LEO. If you take it upon yourself to act in that manner, expect to face the consequences. Who gets arrested for Jay Walking? The cop was overreacting. But never mind that, they were going back and forth for a while, if he wanted to arrest her he could've, like you're a cop and can't restrain a 17 year old girl? It was getting ridiculous then the other girl who I think was trying to calm her down tried to intervene then gets punched in the face by the "female-dog donkey" cop who later claims he was trying to defend himself, mind you she wasn't attacking him she was just trying to break them up. Bottom line he shouldn't have been trying to arrest her, she shouldn't have resisted arrest, and I'm on the fence about her trying to break it up. However he was very wrong for punching her in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted June 17, 2010 Share #10 Posted June 17, 2010 Who gets arrested for Jay Walking? The cop was overreacting. But never mind that, they were going back and forth for a while, if he wanted to arrest her he could've, like you're a cop and can't restrain a 17 year old girl? It was getting ridiculous then the other girl who I think was trying to calm her down tried to intervene then gets punched in the face by the "female-dog donkey" cop who later claims he was trying to defend himself, mind you she wasn't attacking him she was just trying to break them up. Bottom line he shouldn't have been trying to arrest her, she shouldn't have resisted arrest, and I'm on the fence about her trying to break it up. However he was very wrong for punching her in the face. So it's fine for her to assault the officer by shoving him? How does the cop know they don't have any weapons? The cop acted on what he knew, which was that perp #2 had become aggressive and had shoved him. Things can quickly go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous85 Posted June 17, 2010 Share #11 Posted June 17, 2010 So it's fine for her to assault the officer by shoving him? How does the cop know they don't have any weapons? The cop acted on what he knew, which was that perp #2 had become aggressive and had shoved him. Things can quickly go wrong. That's why I'm on the fence about it, plus it didn't look like she was shoving him at all to me, I thought she was breaking them up while the cop and the other girl were going back and forth. Not too long ago I heard the cops in Seattle were over using that Jay Walking nonsense as an excuse to arrest people and some even using excessive force, then I see something like this happen. Like how does it go from Jay Walking to a fight with an officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 17, 2010 Share #12 Posted June 17, 2010 So it's fine for her to assault the officer by shoving him? How does the cop know they don't have any weapons? The cop acted on what he knew, which was that perp #2 had become aggressive and had shoved him. Things can quickly go wrong. Good point right there, it could be seen as a self-defence measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusOperator3319 Posted June 17, 2010 Share #13 Posted June 17, 2010 I don't care a grown ass adult has no right to punch a 17 year old child in the face. He was overreacting in the first place and then when she tries to break it up she gets punched in the face. I hope somebody beats the s*** out of him while he's off duty (or on duty). I hate police brutality and they wonder why people hate them.He was definitely out of order he was merely pushed he has no restraint what so ever he should not be on anyones police force that was bad judgement on his behalf and then the police department has nerve to say it's within the guidelines who's guidelines they must be looking to be put under federal review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted June 17, 2010 Share #14 Posted June 17, 2010 The woman chose to escalate the situation. If she had listened to the LEO's instructions, there wouldn't have been any confrontation. While interacting with the man, Walsh observed four women jaywalking at the same location and ordered them to step over to his cruiser, police said. The department described the women as being "verbally antagonistic toward the officer." One of the women began to walk away and appeared to raise her hand in a dismissive gesture after being ordered to step over to the car, police said. Walsh escorted the woman back to the cruiser, but she then started to yell at him and pull away, "breaking free of the officer's grip several times," police said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 17, 2010 Share #15 Posted June 17, 2010 You put your hands on a cop, you get locked up. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusOperator3319 Posted June 17, 2010 Share #16 Posted June 17, 2010 You put your hands on a cop, you get locked up. Simple as that.Enough of the boo hoo's already people riding the pigs dicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 17, 2010 Share #17 Posted June 17, 2010 Enough of the boo hoo's already people riding the pigs dicks Looks like someone has a problem with the police, when you need help, do us all a favor and dont call 911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 17, 2010 Share #18 Posted June 17, 2010 Enough of the boo hoo's already people riding the pigs dicks Typical and disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusOperator3319 Posted June 17, 2010 Share #19 Posted June 17, 2010 Typical and disturbing.Certain cops I respect I.E. Highway,Mounted and ESU beat cops get no love like the one in the video cause they are the ones that typically show people no respect thinking they can talk to people any kind of way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted June 17, 2010 Share #20 Posted June 17, 2010 Certain cops I respect I.E. Highway,Mounted and ESU beat cops get no love like the one in the video cause they are the ones that typically show people no respect thinking they can talk to people any kind of way Haha, you respect ESU, HWY and MU, but you don't respect the cop walking a beat? Those HWY guys are even bigger hard-asses than most cops and would write their own mothers; if you ever have to deal with ESU it's because you're f**ked. Ordinary POs are the ones who are going to make a difference when you're up shits' creek, you're a city employee, you should f**king know better than to post garbage like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share #21 Posted June 17, 2010 The punch thrown by the officer was a bit excessive.he should of put her in some kind of arm hold.Personally I think the Israeli`s should teach these guys a lil biy of hand-to-hand combat skill with Krav Maga!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 17, 2010 Share #22 Posted June 17, 2010 Yes, appropriate force was used. No, that was inappropriate force. Unnecessary force. As the matter of fact that cop was a pussy for punching that girl in the face like that. I would have dropped her on her ass and cuffed her but not punch her. He managed that situation poorly and therefore questions whether or not he has the ability to be an officer. The officer displayed poor judgement and problem solving abilities. And for the record, my cousin is a cop, my brother-in-laws brother is a cop, my cousins wife's brother is a cop, my aunt is a retired cop, I have three friends that I grew up with that are now cops. If my cousin or friends ever did that I would call them a pussy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 17, 2010 Share #23 Posted June 17, 2010 I don't know the law codes of Washington State but if that were in New York I know for a fact that shit wouldn't fly, especially for something as petty as jaywalking. Shit, I'd be furious too. I wouldn't lash out on the cop in no way but if the cop is making an arrest over something as petty as jaywalking then he must not have enough spare time on his shoulders. And people wonder why crime is at a all-time high. The video is the exact reason why. Cops are looking to pinch people for the littlest shit yet when something huge happens they're sitting ducks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted June 17, 2010 Share #24 Posted June 17, 2010 Shit like this is why I avoid giving cops a reason to look my way. The arrest as well as the force used on anyone's part in this was completely avoidable. The cop should be in the situation he's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted June 17, 2010 Share #25 Posted June 17, 2010 I don't know the law codes of Washington State but if that were in New York I know for a fact that shit wouldn't fly, especially for something as petty as jaywalking. Shit, I'd be furious too. I wouldn't lash out on the cop in no way but if the cop is making an arrest over something as petty as jaywalking then he must not have enough spare time on his shoulders. And people wonder why crime is at a all-time high. The video is the exact reason why. Cops are looking to pinch people for the littlest shit yet when something huge happens they're sitting ducks. Neither of them were arrested for Jaywalking. The 19-year-old woman who allegedly grabbed Walsh's arm was booked for investigation of assault on an officer, police said. The other woman, who police said was 17, was booked for obstructing an officer. Both suspects were also cited for jaywalking. Also, 1990s NYPD & Mayor Giuliani would like to have a word with you about NYC not doing anything about Jaywalking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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