NX Express Posted June 19, 2010 Share #26 Posted June 19, 2010 And what happens if the gets bailed out by the Feds in the near future? If the R44s are retired, will there be enough cars to restore service to current levels?:eek: They'll just order another batch of NTTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted June 19, 2010 Author Share #27 Posted June 19, 2010 So this is how much R46s should be left for the JYD... and trains are gonna be half R46s with the rest R160s. the of course will remain the same. The and will be R160s only. But that's just my guess. E: 100% R160 F: virtually 100% R160, consider an R46 a treat. G: 100% R46. R: virtually 100% R46, consider an R160 a treat. M: has nothing to do with Jamaica Yard----will have 100% ENY assigned R160. None will lay up in JYD, rather near 179 and CTL lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 19, 2010 Share #28 Posted June 19, 2010 They'll just order another batch of NTTs. With what money? Bailout money is a different entity than funds for a batch of subway cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R110B Posted June 19, 2010 Share #29 Posted June 19, 2010 Yes the R44 is history All the car and buses are purchased by the Captial budget program. (0) ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted June 20, 2010 Share #30 Posted June 20, 2010 All R44 fans including myself better get our last rides now, before all become extinct. I do feel bad, but we will still have R46 around similar look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted June 20, 2010 Share #31 Posted June 20, 2010 I really dont care if anyone hates the R44s, becuz me and a few others still love em and I 100% do! Its what the ran with during the 90s and today(And 80s i think). And its just what makes the look as today. The (A)/(S) Rkway won't be the same as much with no R44s, but plain R46/R32( Only) And something unique, such as the formation of ABBA car, door chorm, a wider cab, new seats and looks. And first car to be oval shape..+ Some of you may be hating on em only becuz its fallen a part and crap but one day you may miss em too.. Same as Redbirdss..(Some peepz) Well gonna be fanning AND riding the R44 from here to its end.. Is it even possible some R44s would preserved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 CNG Posted June 20, 2010 Share #32 Posted June 20, 2010 Is it even possible some R44s would preserved? If they could preserve 5228/5229 R44s 5228/9 have a stainless steel "band" rather than a painted carbon steel band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 20, 2010 Share #33 Posted June 20, 2010 If they could preserve 5228/5229 Don't get your hopes up. They often don't save a subway car due to its characteristics (e.g. what it looks like), or whether it was the first or last of its type, or just pluck any random car for the matter either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 20, 2010 Share #34 Posted June 20, 2010 And what happens if the gets bailed out by the Feds in the near future? If the R44s are retired, will there be enough cars to restore service to current levels?:eek: I should say, use the money to fix up the existing infrastructure and invest on new so that we don't revisit the 1970s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 20, 2010 Share #35 Posted June 20, 2010 If they could preserve 5228/5229I saw that very set years ago in 2003. It was quite a site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted June 20, 2010 Share #36 Posted June 20, 2010 will Jamaica have any R46's left after this? Like LRG said, there will be enough. The uses 15 sets of R46s that would be "saved" by the combination with the (M2). Since the is gone, those 15 sets are being transferred to Pitkin. (I don't know how they managed to free up 4 other sets. Maybe it is as a result of reducing the evening/weekend frequencies of the and the Sunday frequencies of the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted June 20, 2010 Share #37 Posted June 20, 2010 I really dont care if anyone hates the R44s, becuz me and a few others still love em and I 100% do! Its what the ran with during the 90s and today(And 80s i think). And its just what makes the look as today. The (A)/(S) Rkway won't be the same as much with no R44s, but plain R46/R32( Only) And they have things that are unique, such as the formation of A-B-B-A car, door chime, a wider cab, new seats and looks. And the first car to be oval shaped.. Some of you may be hating on em only becuz its falling apart and crap but one day you may miss em too.. Same as Redbirds..(Some peepz) Well, gonna be fanning AND riding the R44 from here to its end.. Is it even possible some R44s would preserved? Other than correcting the hazardous spelling error (seriously, chrom?!?!) & the blundering grammatical errors (I thought I was reading something from 1st grade), the R44s are not even oval shaped.... They might preserve a 4 car set but who knows, the condition of these cars are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Posted June 20, 2010 Share #38 Posted June 20, 2010 Other than correcting the hazardous spelling error (seriously, chrom?!?!) & the blundering grammatical errors (I thought I was reading something from 1st grade), the R44s are not even oval shaped.... They might preserve a 4 car set but who knows, the condition of these cars are terrible. SMH, and to add on to what you said, they are a safety hazard in terms of accidents, which was found in the investigation of the accident at 135th Street some years ago when a car pretty much disintegrated. The frames are HORRID!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 20, 2010 Share #39 Posted June 20, 2010 The frames are HORRID!!! For that to be true, there would have to be frames at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share #40 Posted June 20, 2010 SMH, and to add on to what you said, they are a safety hazard in terms of accidents, which was found in the investigation of the accident at 135th Street some years ago when a car pretty much disintegrated. The frames are HORRID!!! The incident which destroyed the R44 had absolutely nothing to do with the condition of the car. The switch moved underneath the car after the front truck passed thereby causing the rear truck to go "elsewhere". Result: car gets cut open by the columns like being continually being slashed by a can opener. What happened there would have happened to any stainless steel subway car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 20, 2010 Share #41 Posted June 20, 2010 Other than correcting the hazardous spelling error (seriously, chrom?!?!) & the blundering grammatical errors (I thought I was reading something from 1st grade), the R44s are not even oval shaped.... They might preserve a 4 car set but who knows, the condition of these cars are terrible. Thing is, where are you going to store them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 20, 2010 Share #42 Posted June 20, 2010 For the moment it seems concourse yard and 207th [if there's space]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 20, 2010 Share #43 Posted June 20, 2010 Thing is, where are you going to store them? Anywhere there is room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Posted June 21, 2010 Share #44 Posted June 21, 2010 The incident which destroyed the R44 had absolutely nothing to do with the condition of the car. The switch moved underneath the car after the front truck passed thereby causing the rear truck to go "elsewhere". Result: car gets cut open by the columns like being continually being slashed by a can opener. What happened there would have happened to any stainless steel subway car. That is correct and not downing that fact, but from that accident it was also founded that the cars themselves did not have great frames either. From my own personal view of that accident, I've seen many of other "split switch" accidents, that R-44 car was just non-existant, nothing like I've seen before from a subway car in a split switch accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted June 21, 2010 Share #45 Posted June 21, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted June 21, 2010 Share #46 Posted June 21, 2010 Well, looks like that R-46 19x8 would be interesting, will they actually connect 19x8 car trains and send them that way? Yeah. They're going to link together 152 R46's and move them throughout the system. And pigs will fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted June 21, 2010 Share #47 Posted June 21, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 21, 2010 Share #48 Posted June 21, 2010 Just got an Email from a most reliable source telling me that 38x4 R46 units totaling 152 cars will be transfered from JYD next weekend since the the V will be history. They will be moved in 19x8 car trains with 15 going to temporary storage at 207 and 4 to Pitkin entering service "immediately". The ones at 207 will be released for service once they are inspected. This will allow retirement of the remaing 136 active R44's. There is no timetable as to when the last R44 will be retired and all R46's above #5822 will be available for A line service. For space constrictions, here is the low number from each set to be transfered (missing cars should be already in then A line pool): 5822, 5830, 5838, 5854, 5898, 5914, 5918, 5934, 5938, 5954, 5958, 5970, 5978, 5982, 5990, 5994, 6002, 6006, 6010, 6018, 6022, 6026, 6042, 6050, 6058, 6062, 6066, 6070, 6074, 6078, 6086, 6090, 6094, 6098, 6106, 6114, 6122, 6194. Good Bye R32 !!!! I can't wait for them to pull them off the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68 Subway Car Posted June 21, 2010 Share #49 Posted June 21, 2010 That is correct and not downing that fact, but from that accident it was also founded that the cars themselves did not have great frames either. From my own personal view of that accident, I've seen many of other "split switch" accidents, that R-44 car was just non-existant, nothing like I've seen before from a subway car in a split switch accident. How badly did that car get shredded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted June 21, 2010 Share #50 Posted June 21, 2010 How badly did that car get shredded? It was cut in half. I think that car was scrapped on site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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