error46146 Posted June 21, 2010 Share #1 Posted June 21, 2010 Saw this over on the Straphangers forum: http://qm22express.forumup.com/about2-qm22express.html Well what do you guys think of this? Is it real, or will it end up being another Flash Bus Line ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted June 21, 2010 Share #2 Posted June 21, 2010 The more express bus routes that are given up the better. Private organizations would probably run the buses to at least close to efficient as possible than the way MTA Bus is running them by a rigid schedule. - imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 21, 2010 Share #3 Posted June 21, 2010 The more express bus routes that are given up the better. Private organizations would probably run the buses to at least close to efficient as possible than the way MTA Bus is running them by a rigid schedule. - imo. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted June 21, 2010 Share #4 Posted June 21, 2010 Mr. Azumah's at it again.... any scraps the MTA leaves behind, he thinks he can pick up the pieces & turn em into gold.... more power to him if he can.... doesn't he have a plan to bring back (his form of the) MTA's x25 & the x90.... this is the same guy that thinks the x29 (and a couple other routes) will be privatized in the future.... Let's face it, he does makes quite a bit of empty promises.... Long story short, I'll believe this when I see it..... Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 21, 2010 Share #5 Posted June 21, 2010 Mr. Azumah's at it again.... any scraps the MTA leaves behind, he thinks he can pick up the pieces & turn em into gold....more power to him if he can.... doesn't he have a plan to bring back (his form of the) MTA's x25 & the x90.... this is the same guy that thinks the x29 (and a couple other routes) will be privatized in the future.... Let's face it, he does makes quite a bit of empty promises.... Long story short, I'll believe this when I see it..... Simple as that. Yep there's a post on the other board about the X25 and the X29 being saved in his form. The hell is he trying to pull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted June 21, 2010 Share #6 Posted June 21, 2010 X25 and X26 is going to be $3.00 and X90 is $5.50. http://www.transportazumah.com/services I plan to try it out the X25/X26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted June 21, 2010 Share #7 Posted June 21, 2010 X25 and X26 is going to be $3.00 and X90 is $5.50.http://www.transportazumah.com/services I plan to try it out the X25/X26. This guy seriously wants to do this? Take over buses the MTA is getting rid of? I REALLY don't get it.... Is what he is doing even legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted June 21, 2010 Share #8 Posted June 21, 2010 There is more info from site. You have to be Apple Core club member to ride these buses. Apple Core - A Private Transportation Club The Apple Core club is a private transportation club that operates to facilitate mass transportation options in the New York Metropolitan Area. Services operating under the Apple Core club program are not open to members of the general public. Non-members are not allowed aboard any Apple Core services under any circumstances. Membership may be obtained for free when purchasing a ticket for a particular service. Apple Core members must carry their Apple Core club membership card with them at all times. The New York City Department of Transportation and New York State Department of Transportation may board buses and require all passengers to show their cards. Some Apple Core routes operate under operating regulations that strictly forbid carrying members of the general public except in emergencies declared by local or state authorities. Cashless Apple Core routes will require a state or high school/college ID to match all payment receipts with the passengers boarding. No personal information is required or requested when joining the Apple Core club. All routes that operate under the Apple Core program will require that passengers agree to become part of the program before allowing the purchase of a fare. Each route operates under an independent schedule and fare structure. Some routes will operate on a completely cashless basis and will require the purchase of all fares through our website. On those routes, no cash will be accepted aboard buses. On routes that accept cash, exact fare is required. The driver will not make change. On services that are designed to mimic subway or railroad service, checking and collection of receipts and fares may take place off of the vehicle. For more information about Apple Core services, please contact us at info@transportazumah.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted June 21, 2010 Share #9 Posted June 21, 2010 The more express bus routes that are given up the better. Private organizations would probably run the buses to at least close to efficient as possible than the way MTA Bus is running them by a rigid schedule. - imo. And there is a high chance for the routes to be cheaper than the This guy seriously wants to do this? Take over buses the MTA is getting rid of? I REALLY don't get it.... Is what he is doing even legal? Yes,it is legal because the is not loosing any revenue from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilBus65 Posted June 21, 2010 Share #10 Posted June 21, 2010 Do you remember when Queens Surface lost the QM1A to Wall St and the QM3 to Sixth ave in 1988? A different private bus company tried to make them work. It did so well that in about 6 months,QSC had both of them back. Given that kind of track record it's definitely an uphill battle to make these routes work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q101viaSteinway Posted June 21, 2010 Share #11 Posted June 21, 2010 Do you remember when Queens Surface lost the QM1A to Wall St and the QM3 to Sixth ave in 1988? A different private bus company tried to make them work. It did so well that in about 6 months,QSC had both of them back. Given that kind of track record it's definitely an uphill battle to make these routes work. What company, when did this happen and why did QSC lose the QM1A and QM3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted June 21, 2010 Share #12 Posted June 21, 2010 Do you remember when Queens Surface lost the QM1A to Wall St and the QM3 to Sixth ave in 1988? A different private bus company tried to make them work. It did so well that in about 6 months,QSC had both of them back. Given that kind of track record it's definitely an uphill battle to make these routes work. Most of the guys on here weren't even born yet back in 1988. Growing up as a teenager in the 80's,what a decade that was. Life was simpler back then with far less gadgets then there are today. I didn't even have cable tv until the end of 1987. I remember Queens Surface, but I mainly rode on the Triboro coach and green bus lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 21, 2010 Share #13 Posted June 21, 2010 I never seen his buses, but let me tell you this.. if you wants to pocket some money, he ought to have some form of attractive branding. I've seen pictures on his website and I'm pretty disgusted with the bland white Vanhool coaches that are on it. There's ought to be some kind of visible branding, such as a paint scheme that can lure passengers and have them easily distinguish these buses from regular charter coaches. Earlier ago, there was a private bus line that started to operate to LI from Wall Street, that had branding too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted June 21, 2010 Author Share #14 Posted June 21, 2010 Private companies running public transit routes may not always be a good thing unless if its a non-profit. Private for-profit companies serve the interest of the boss while public agencies (are supposed to at least) serve the interests of the general public. I doubt any private transit operations (especially for profit) would be successful today so just like with flash bus lines ill believe it when I see it...and of course we all know what happened with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted June 21, 2010 Share #15 Posted June 21, 2010 Would of been nice if Skyliner would of grabbed this since their Depot is on 19 ave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilBus65 Posted June 21, 2010 Share #16 Posted June 21, 2010 I don't remember the company but they didn't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted June 21, 2010 Share #17 Posted June 21, 2010 I never seen his buses, but let me tell you this.. if you wants to pocket some money, he ought to have some form of attractive branding. I've seen pictures on his website and I'm pretty disgusted with the bland white Vanhool coaches that are on it. There's ought to be some kind of visible branding, such as a paint scheme that can lure passengers and have them easily distinguish these buses from regular charter coaches. Earlier ago, there was a private bus line that started to operate to LI from Wall Street, that had branding too. The paint scheme is very bland, all you need is a front Luminator and that is enough to bring people in to riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted June 21, 2010 Share #18 Posted June 21, 2010 I think the x90 and the x29 will survive if he takes it over. However, the x25 and QM22 will probably collapse from lack of ridership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted June 21, 2010 Share #19 Posted June 21, 2010 I don't know how he thinks he can make a profit when the X25 costs over $42 per person to operate. If only 20 people rode it, how much could ridership possibly increase? Even if it increased to 50 people as a result of the $3 fare, and his costs remained the same, it is still over $17 per person. I thought, if anything, he would combine the X25/X90. I don't even see a point to the X26. If the MTA was going to discontinue these lines anyway, at least the people have their service maintained until he can't run it anymore. He should've tried to collaborate with the MTA to say that his service would replace the X25/X90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted June 22, 2010 Share #20 Posted June 22, 2010 X25 and X26 is going to be $3.00 and X90 is $5.50.http://www.transportazumah.com/services I plan to try it out the X25/X26. Related: There is an express bus from Manhattan using a Blue Bird that runs or ran to and from Bay Ridge...and there was one that ran from Park Slope to Manhattan using a Flxible Metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted June 22, 2010 Share #21 Posted June 22, 2010 I think the x90 and the x29 will survive if he takes it over. However, the x25 and QM22 will probably collapse from lack of ridership. the x29 is his best chance... he makes ONE f**kup with that x90 (whether it be a late bus or w/e), and yorkville riders will have his head.... they will do more than simply badmouth/slander him on a local forum (SI Live) as the staten islanders he screwed over, did.... If the MTA was going to discontinue these lines anyway, at least the people have their service maintained until he can't run it anymore. He should've tried to collaborate with the MTA to say that his service would replace the X25/X90. yeah, fat chance bro... the MTA is his nemesis... ask him how he feels about the S89... might wanna go grab some popcorn in the process..... I've seen pictures on his website and I'm pretty disgusted with the bland white Vanhool coaches that are on it. I'm sorry, but I'd take those vanhool's... long before I would ever take this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted June 22, 2010 Share #22 Posted June 22, 2010 yeah, fat chance bro... the MTA is his nemesis... ask him how he feels about the S89... might wanna go grab some popcorn in the process..... Oh well, his loss. The MTA would've been his real chance to get the word out. They could've mentioned "Private operator runs similar service at a lower price in the same corridor" or something to that effect. If he really felt that he could hold on to that X25 route, he would've used that as free publicity. I agree about the S89. I don't care if it's an illegal route. It provided much better service than he did. It runs both directions, and has more runs, with a cheaper fare to boot ($2.25 + $2.10 = $4.35 vs. $6 each way, with comparable travel time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted June 22, 2010 Share #23 Posted June 22, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted June 22, 2010 Share #24 Posted June 22, 2010 The paint scheme is very bland, all you need is a front Luminator and that is enough to bring people in to riding. However, you can immediately tell if that is a transit bus. These, they can't be readily identifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted June 22, 2010 Share #25 Posted June 22, 2010 id rather just leave the QM22 where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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