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YankeesPwnMets

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Now with the service cuts in effect, I heard about possible Car Assignments moves such as R68/A on the (N). I also heard many of you dont like it, so what would you do with the cars

 

R46 from the (V) - Moves to the (A) and (S) Rockaway Shuttle

R160 from the (W) - Moves to the (:P and (D), still have some R68/A tho

1/2 of R160 from the (N) - Goes to the (Q)

1/2 of the R68/A from the (Q) - Goes to the (N)

The R68/A from the (B) and (D) Lines - Goes to the (R) (They need cleaner cars then R46) and (G)

Some R46 from the (R) (replaced by R68/A - Goes to the (C)

NOTE: The (R) would still be 1/2 R68/A and 1/2 R46 and 1-2 sets of 160s from the (V)

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2 Train Master

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The (V)'s 46's use for the (R) to pick up the slack via 4th Av and send selected ®'s via West End,send some 46's to the (A) line in exchange for the R32's which is no longer needed.R32 C.I set stays b\c of the Brighton Line rehab.Make (N) all R68/A's and (Q) all 160's and send some 160's to the (B) & (D) in exchange 4 some 68's

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R10 2952

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If I was in charge of car assignments, I would:

-take the surplus R-32s out of 207th Street Yard, and put some of them on the (B) and (Z) (since they're part-time lines). I'd also contemplate sending some of the R-32s to the (D) and (Q) lines. But I'd leave enough cars at 207th Street Yard to service the (C).

-shift the R-46s on the (G) to the (F) and (R) (and MAYBE the (E)). In place of those R-46s, I'd send in R68As to service the (G).

-keep about half of the R-42s [32 cars (remember, those 14 R-42s at 207th are not dead; they're merely 'moth-balled')] at ENY, and send the other half to places like Jamaica Yard, Coney Island, and Concourse.

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(A) R44/R46 (with possible R32's)

(B) R46/R68

(C) R32/R44 (with possible R46's)

(D) R68/R68A

(E) R160 (with possible R46's)

(F) R46/R160

(G) R46/R160*

(J) R160/R42

(L) R143/R160

(M) R160

(N) R46/R68/R160

(Q) R68A

(R) R46/R160

(S) Franklin Av R68

(S) Rockaway Pk R44/R46

(S) 42 St R62A

(Z) R160/R42

(1) R62A

(2) R142 (with possible R62A)

(3) R62

(4) R62/R142A

(5) R142 (with possible R62A)

(6)<6> R142A (with possible R62A)

(7)<7> R62A

(SIR) R44/R46

 

*Is the (G) train still based out of Jamaica Yard, or is it being transferred to Coney Island?

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(A) R44/R46 (with possible R32's)

(B) R46/R68

(C) R32/R44 (with possible R46's)

(D) R68/R68A

(E) R160 (with possible R46's)

(F) R46/R160

(G) R46/R160*

(J) R160/R42

(L) R143/R160

(M) R160

(N) R46/R68/R160

(Q) R68A

(R) R46/R160

(S) Franklin Av R68

(S) Rockaway Pk R44/R46

(S) 42 St R62A

(Z) R160/R42

(1) R62A

(2) R142 (with possible R62A)

(3) R62

(4) R62/R142A

(5) R142 (with possible R62A)

(6)<6> R142A (with possible R62A)

(7)<7> R62A

(SIR) R44/R46

 

*Is the (G) train still based out of Jamaica Yard, or is it being transferred to Coney Island?

It's still out of JAM, I believe. After all, it still uses JAM equipment (R46s), n'est-ce pas?

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NX Express

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Are there more R46s in JAM or R68s in CIY?

If CIY has more R68s than JAM has R46s:

(A)-R46/R68

(:P-R46/R160

(C)-R32

(D)-R68

(E)-R160s

(F)-R160s

(G)-R68

(J)-R160/R42

(L)-R143s and R160s

(M)-R160s

(N)-R46/R160

(Q)-R46/R160

(R)-R68

(Z)-R160/R42

 

If the other way around:

(A)-R46

(B)-R46/R160

(C)-R32

(D)-R68

(E)-R160s

(F)-R160s

(G)-R46/R68

(J)-R160/R42

(L)-R143s and R160s

(M)-R160s

(N)-R46/R160

(Q)-R46/R160

(R)-R46/R68

(Z)-R160/R42

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YankeesPwnMets

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I should just list the whole thing for me

(A) - R44 and R46

(:P - R160s and R68/A

(C) - The (F)'s R46 plus R32

(D) - R160 and R68

(E) - R160

(F) - R160

(G) - R68/A and R46

(J) - R143 shared with (L) and R160, R42

(L) - R143 shared with (J)(Z) and R160, R42

(M) - R160

(N) - R68/A and R160

(Q) - R160

(R) - R160 from (W)

(S) - Same, with R46 Rockaway (S) Trains

(Z) - R160, R42 and R143 shared with (J)(L)

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(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)(7) - R142(a)

(A)(:P©(D)(E)(F)(G)(J)(L)(M)(N)(Q)(R)(S)(Z) - 160 LOL :P

 

OK, on a little more serious note, I'll just do Jamaica Yard:

(E)-R179...just kidding, relax; R160

(F)-R46/160

(G)-R46

(R)-R160

 

You know, I just thought: What if they have only 60ft. (R-whatever) cars to replace the Franklin Ave. Shuttle, when it comes time? You can't get 150ft with that so, you think they'd order a couple special 3-car sets; A-B-A? Or, would they just go with a 120ft. A-A set?

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NX Express

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I would tend to think theyll get 2 car trains of 75 foot cars.

 

But that would make only 8 cars, and since the order would not be a prototype, companies would be reluctant to do it. Unless, the MTA makes the mistake of ordering 75 ft cars for the entire system again.

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The only mistake the MTA made was ordering 60 foot cars for outside of the eastern division. Ordering 75 foot cars would be rectifying such a mistake. Ordering 60 foot cars for the North, South, and Queens wasted tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars, and will continue to waste such until the day the R160s and R179s are retired.

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NX Express

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The only mistake the MTA made was ordering 60 foot cars for outside of the eastern division. Ordering 75 foot cars would be rectifying such a mistake. Ordering 60 foot cars for the North, South, and Queens wasted tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars, and will continue to waste such until the day the R160s and R179s are retired.

 

...there's only two issues.

1. Flexibility is nil with the 75 foot cars in all other BMT/IND divisions.

2. 60-footers handle crowds better (needed for the (E)(F)(L)).

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If not for the designs of the window side seats of the 75' cars, then yes. Otherwise getting ppl to move into the interior is like getting ppl to move to the back of a LF bus.

 

Yeah, I've noticed that people don't like going up those steps. I go up there to stand no problem.

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NX Express

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A properly designed 4 car unit of 75 foot cars has the same, or better flexibility and crowd handling capability as a 5 car unit of 60 foot cars.

 

However, a four-car set of 75-footers has 16 doors. A five-car set of 60-footers has 20 doors. 20 doors is better than 16 when it comes to crowds.

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A 4 car set of 75 footers would have 20 doors, much like a 4 car set of 60 footers.

 

In a ten-car train (usual for crowded lines):

8 cars of 75 footers = 32 doors

10 cars of 60 footers= 40 doors

 

The more doors, the better.

 

Anyway, EDIT: A 4 car set of 75 ft. cars has 16 doors, not 20.

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If I was in charge , expect this

 

(A)-R68s and some R46s

(B)-the way it is now

(D)-R68s and R160Bs

(C)-R32s FTW!!!

(E)-R160s

(F)-R46s/R160s(with slightly more R46s)

(G)-R46s FTW!!

(J)-R143s and R160s

(L)-the way it is now(with some of the (J)'s R42s)

(M)-R143s and R160s(possibly a R42 squeezed from the (Z))

(Z)-R143s and R160s

(N)-the way it is now

(Q)-R160's only

(R)-R46s/R160s(with slightly more R46s)

(S)franklin ave.-R160s

(S)rockaway-R68s

(S)42nd street-the way it is now

(1)-R62As and R142As

(2)-the way it is now

(3)-R62s and R142s

(4)-R62s , R62As and R142s / R142As

(5)-the way it is now

(6)-R62s and R142As

(7)-R62As and R142s

(H)-R110s

(K)-R110s

<7>-R142As

(T)-R160s

<R>-R179s FTW..

 

and that's MY fantasy yard assignments!

 

 

"WHAPPA"

-Gorge Lopez!

 

"HAVE MERCY"

-JOHN sTAMOS

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YankeesPwnMets

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I dont think R68s could go on the (A) because its too new and it will rust by the Salty air and it might be to heavy to go over the bridge

 

(M)'s cant have R42s because it doesnt have 71 Av - Continental Av as its Southern Terminal

 

Also I dont think the 143s ever tested on 6 Av and Queens Blvd so there might be a physical problem (wheel slips, contacts cant touch 3rd rail etc)

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