Second Avenue Subway To Be Modern And Futuristic!

[EE Broadway Local]

Quiet and trains; High domed, brighter, air-conditioned and heated stations; High speed motion sensor escalators in place of the old stairwell access; possibility of Muzak, Cellular telephone and Internet Access? Maybe not science fiction - they're all ideas the MTA is working on for the new Second Avenue subway:

 

Full Story; Picture And Sound Clip From NY Post.com: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/the_future_is_hear_mta_gxQwszOXV2iMapigatNuzL

[Grand Concourse]

Waste of money. They should worry about just getting the stations and tracks built than all the noise proofing crap. At this rate the other segments will never be started.

[iGeMiNix]

I agree, maybe once it the line exist and is running, you can improve it on. Other then that, they should focus on making it a reality first before making the future a reality.

[553 Bridgeton]

Sad to say, but I dont think SAS will exist in our lifetime.

[NYtransit]

dont tell me the state doesnt know about this? we loose 2 subway lines,loose alot of bus service,get budget reductions,increased fares,and out of no where,they come with this billion dollar plan? oh thats right,its governer paterson..hey hes the government? so why not lay back and not do anything? this is NYC! were money fly's out of our pockets,Literally!

[rr4567]

So who's paying for all this?

[cdi919]

Quiet and trains; High domed, brighter, air-conditioned and heated stations; High speed motion sensor escalators in place of the old stairwell access; possibility of Muzak, Cellular telephone and Internet Access? Maybe not science fiction - they're all ideas the MTA is working on for the new Second Avenue subway:

 

Full Story; Picture And Sound Clip From NY Post.com: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/the_future_is_hear_mta_gxQwszOXV2iMapigatNuzL

 

sounds like a nice place for the homeless to live. look out the (E)trains homeless population is moving on up, to the (T)line.

[Eric B]

So they've dropped the platform doors now.

It should have been easier especially since they're sticking with the same car lengths, at least for now.

[Shortline Bus]

sounds like a nice place for the homeless to live. look out the (E)trains homeless population is moving on up, to the (T)line.

 

CDI you mean by end of this decade when the SAS first section opens they be singing this classic lol.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9y4iXAso4I

[N-Trizzy2609]

So they've dropped the platform doors now.

It should have been easier especially since they're sticking with the same car lengths, at least for now.

 

The idea of platform screen door make me not wanna go near a subway station. I feel more claustrophobic then I do now at rush hour.

[MTR Admiralty]

I wonder the costs... and how many overruns and how many times it will be delayed. Just keep it simple, get it done and perhaps spruce it later if that's is SO necessary.

[KTrainExp]

Am I the only one that disagrees? I don't think sound proofing is necessary, but I think the SAS should look futuristic. Modernizing the subway system is going to happen whether we like it or not, so why not save a few weekends of having the close down in the future with station rehabs and modernization projects, and just do it now?

[DJ MC]

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[R32 3348]

The first phase of the SAS has been fully funded for a while now, so this is all happening whether we like it or not. Unless the has a $3 billion budget gap for any of the years 2011-2015, they are not going to divert money from the Capital Budget for their operating budget (IINM they can only divert 10% of the funds anyway). Also, you shouldn't say they can just improve on it after it finishes, because that is just as likely to happen as if the dropped the 10th Ave. station on the extension and proposed to "build it later". Just like the 5th Ave. and 63rd St. station.

[T to Dyre Avenue]

I disagree. Leave out all these bells and whistles (including platform screen doors) and put the money towards building the three stations north of 96th Street.

[LexAveExp5]

Quiet and trains; High domed, brighter, air-conditioned and heated stations; High speed motion sensor escalators in place of the old stairwell access; possibility of Muzak, Cellular telephone and Internet Access? Maybe not science fiction - they're all ideas the MTA is working on for the new Second Avenue subway:

 

Full Story; Picture And Sound Clip From NY Post.com: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/the_future_is_hear_mta_gxQwszOXV2iMapigatNuzL

 

here's where im at on my personal opinions:

 

- high domed: nay

- brighter: nay

- air conditioning: yay

- heat: yay

- high speed motion sensored escalators: nay

- muzak: nay

- cell phone access: yay

- internet access: yay

 

i didnt do that to say my opinion counts more than anybody else's. i just think that the majority of the public would agree with my reasoning for these opinions. the doesnt have to get EVERY bell and whistle, but some of them (the ones i gave a "yay"), should be standard in the year 2010. god forbid they give us restrooms

[QM1to6Ave]

Also keep in mind that the needs to show off these fancy plans and such in order to impress the people that will give them the money, i.e. politicians.

A politician is more likely to approve sending money to the MTA if he can put in his re-election pamphlet a picture of a fancy ass station, not just a bunch of boring looking, yet functional stations, just as its hard to get money for general upkeep of existing stations because that looks boring to voters (at least thats what the pols think anyway)

[rockdove]

... the dropped the 10th Ave. station on the extension and proposed to "build it later". Just like the 5th Ave. and 63rd St. station.

 

Hmmmm... didn't know about this one. The Queens boulevard express to Central Park. Also it would have been an easier transfer to the Broadway line than via Lexington Ave.

[West End]

I have to disagree and say that most of these upgrades should be implemented. The green movement has taken the country by storm, and being opposed to anything of that sort just looks bad. Take away the brighter energy-efficient lighting and the motion-sensored escalators (ideas which would save the MTA on energy costs), and you will lose the backing of almost every progressive organization and European-based firm.

 

And on a day like today, I really hope no one's going to argue with me over the need for an air-cooling system on subway platforms...

[EE Broadway Local]

Also, you shouldn't say they can just improve on it after it finishes, because that is just as likely to happen as if the dropped the 10th Ave. station on the extension and proposed to "build it later". Just like the 5th Ave. and 63rd St. station.

I also didn't know about this - a Fifth Avenue/East 63d Street station would've been wonderful.

 

This would've given Fifth Avenue subway access at:

East 63d Street

59th Street

53d Street

42d Street

23d Street

[lilbluefoxie]

I have to disagree and say that most of these upgrades should be implemented. The green movement has taken the country by storm, and being opposed to anything of that sort just looks bad. Take away the brighter energy-efficient lighting and the motion-sensored escalators (ideas which would save the MTA on energy costs), and you will lose the backing of almost every progressive organization and European-based firm.

 

So? A conservative, American firm will do the job if the price is right, expensive lighting and escilators isnt worth it. Just build em like the other IND stations, you drop down onto a mezzanie then down to platform level, no need for any fancy crap, just the basic cheapo tiles and fake mosaics.

[West End]

So? A conservative, American firm will do the job if the price is right, expensive lighting and escilators isnt worth it. Just build em like the other IND stations, you drop down onto a mezzanie then down to platform level, no need for any fancy crap, just the basic cheapo tiles and fake mosaics.

 

The point is that the MTA would have more bills to pay in energy costs in the end, meaning more cuts in service. The reason why European countries have motion-sensored escalators and efficient lighting is because they have significantly less sources of energy than we Americans do, and they end up saving large chunks of money each year. C'mon now, it's like picking between between $80 up front/$10 a month and $60 up front/$20 a month.

[Ridgewoodian]

Oh my god, people, OF COURSE they should build these stations with the best available technology and modern conveniences. That's what they did when they originally built the system - eighty and a hundred years ago. They were a marvel once, a long, long time ago. Those old stations are going to have to be modernized someday. It would make no sense to build new ones to a century old standard.

[DJ Flxible]

Finally. Rapid transit technology that competes with the rest of the world! The only problem is the fact that this kind of infrastructure is far more costly to implement here than practically anywhere else on the globe.

[Nova RTS 9147]

Just build em like the other IND stations, you drop down onto a mezzanie then down to platform level, no need for any fancy crap, just the basic cheapo tiles and fake mosaics.

 

building SAS cheap style then everyone wonders why the line is falling apart after five years of service.....