Roadcruiser1 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #1 Posted July 15, 2010 Were any of you alive when the F and N had express service on the Sea Beach and IND Culver lines. I am just wondering what they look like and what it felt like to run on the middle of a elevated line and watching the train next to you run behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #2 Posted July 15, 2010 Yes. The runs Sea Beach Express and the runs Queens express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted July 15, 2010 No like I mean on the Sea Beach Line and the IND Culver Line like , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #4 Posted July 15, 2010 I remember being on the and going EXP bypassing I blv bergen and carrol I think all I know is that I remember going under further and bypassing these stations maybe it was that Culver thing I heard about but maybe someone that knows what I'm talking about and this was in the mid 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted July 15, 2010 Share #5 Posted July 15, 2010 No like I mean on the Sea Beach Line and the IND Culver Line like , I remember as a little boy the Culver express in the '80's but 'no' to the Express other than occasional go's. If i remember correct it ran in peak direction rush hours only with local's start/end at Kings Highway and the 'express' going to Coney Island.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted July 15, 2010 Share #6 Posted July 15, 2010 I remember being on the and going EXP bypassing I blv bergen and carrol I think all I know is that I remember going under further and bypassing these stations maybe it was that Culver thing I heard about but maybe someone that knows what I'm talking about and this was in the mid 80's The 70(F) went express from Jay St and stopped at 7th Ave, Church Ave, then went regular to CI. I don't know if they had some go express on the Culver though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted July 15, 2010 Share #7 Posted July 15, 2010 The 70(F) went express from Jay St and stopped at 7th Ave, Church Ave, then went regular to CI. I don't know if they had some go express on the Culver though. In the 80's my friend IND, it only ran express between 18th Ave-Kings Highway. By 1990 it was a Local 24/7 in Brooklyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #8 Posted July 15, 2010 The 70(F) went express from Jay St and stopped at 7th Ave, Church Ave, then went regular to CI. I don't know if they had some go express on the Culver though. (T)hanks this might be the EXP I was talking about . Is the tracks for this still around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #9 Posted July 15, 2010 The 70(F) went express from Jay St and stopped at 7th Ave, Church Ave, then went regular to CI. I don't know if they had some go express on the Culver though. I've ridden that service also and also ridden the short-lived "NX" express just for the experience. As far as I know there has never been regularly scheduled express service on those tracks. The "NX" was actually a sop to Brighton line riders who lost Broadway express service when the Chrystie St connection opened and wasn't for regular Sea Beach riders as it made no stops on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share #10 Posted July 15, 2010 Yeah one of the reasons I asked this is because I read and saw these tracks myself and wondered if any future service might use them as they are just sitting there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share #11 Posted July 15, 2010 tracks express tracks express Can anyone tell me if any future service might use them like running a local and leaving the to run express on the Culver If this is also possible could they bring back the and run it as a Sea Beach express with stops at the major stations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #12 Posted July 15, 2010 tracks express tracks express Can anyone tell me if any future service might use them like running a local and leaving the to run express on the Culv If this is also possible could they bring back the and run it as a Sea Beach express with stops at the major stations? IIRC there are no express stations on the Sea Beach line so where would the expresses make stops ? Please, will someone, anyone, please explain this fixation with the Culver Line and the train ? In the last few weeks I've seen proposals to add cars to the line and extend it from Coney Island to 125th St to Dyre Ave, even via the Hell Gate Bridge. WTF, is it something in the air ? Heat ? A new drug ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 15, 2010 Share #13 Posted July 15, 2010 IIRC there are no express stations on the Sea Beach line so where would the expresses make stops ? Please, will someone, anyone, please explain this fixation with the Culver Line and the train ? In the last few weeks I've seen proposals to add cars to the line and extend it from Coney Island to 125th St to Dyre Ave, even via the Hell Gate Bridge. WTF, is it something in the air ? Heat ? A new drug ? No just railiens whose circuitry starts sparking, melting, and then explodes if there are any unused express tracks in the system. 'TIS THEY MUST BE USED!!! AAHAHHH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share #14 Posted July 15, 2010 Most of us are talking about this because we want to help people with shorter commutes but lets talk about the history of those express tracks how old are they and why would people built them if no one uses them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted July 15, 2010 Share #15 Posted July 15, 2010 I was very small when the was with us. That must've been a great ride on the Sea Beach express tracks what with no stops between 59th Street and Coney Island. As INDMan said, the 70(F) express ran both directions between Jay Street-Borough Hall and Church Avenue. It then ran peak direction using the Culver middle track from Church Avenue to Kings Highway. In the days of the 70(F) express, the local was the 70(GG) and the 70(F) express stopped only at Seventh Avenue and Bergen Street (Lower Level). Service on the Jay Street-Borough Hall-Church Avenue portion was cancelled on Friday August 27, 1976 and the 70(GG) was shortened to Smith-Ninth Streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share #16 Posted July 15, 2010 That is a very sad fate for them and I would love to ride them If they ever bring them back I would love to ride an express skipping by a slow moving train on the elevated IND Culver Line to Coney Island then hop on an to get to a brought back which runs as an but making some stops like at 62nd street if possible all the way to Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted July 15, 2010 Share #17 Posted July 15, 2010 (T)hanks this might be the EXP I was talking about .Is the tracks for this still around? There being rebuilt right now as a part of the Culver Viaduct project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 15, 2010 Share #18 Posted July 15, 2010 Wirelessly posted via (Mozilla/5.0 (Danger hiptop 4.6; U; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050920) Only during the occasional G.O.s that's basically it. If you wanna know the feeling of running express on an elevated structure these days, ride the (or the occasional ) during rush hours from Marcy to Myrtle...or on the (whenever they finish that construction) during rush hours from 3 Av-149 to E. 180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova RTS 9147 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #19 Posted July 15, 2010 Can anyone tell me if any future service might use them like running a local and leaving the to run express on the Culver If this is also possible could they bring back the and run it as a Sea Beach express with stops at the major stations? The express might come back. That all depends on the . The will run on the Sea Beach express again. Whenever there's a GO that requires it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #20 Posted July 15, 2010 The express might come back. That all depends on the . The will run on the Sea Beach express again. Whenever there's a GO that requires it. In 2012 when the Culver Viaduct is fixed, the will run express and the will run local with a few (F)s running local. There also no plan for the Sea beach as I know. The 2nd track is totally not in service so if there's express service it would have to be setup like a three track elevated. A bi-directional express track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 15, 2010 Share #21 Posted July 15, 2010 Sounds a lot to me like we're... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #22 Posted July 15, 2010 The will run on the Sea Beach express again. Whenever there's a GO that requires it. Actually, almost all GO N Trains are rerouted via West End Express (on rare cases Local). I think that this is due to the fact that running on the Sea Beach Express limits more trains running than when running on the West End Express since there are actually a few "express stops" on the West End EL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted July 15, 2010 Share #23 Posted July 15, 2010 Running trains on the West End Express allows a transfer to the at 62 Street. IIRC, a few years ago there was a GO for the to run express via the Sea Beach from 59 Street to Kings Highway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted July 15, 2010 Share #24 Posted July 15, 2010 In 2012 when the Culver Viaduct is fixed, the will run express and the will run local with a few (F)s running local. There also no plan for the Sea beach as I know. The 2nd track is totally not in service so if there's express service it would have to be setup like a three track elevated. A bi-directional express track. Will run express? There are no plans for that at all, just ideas floating around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted July 15, 2010 Share #25 Posted July 15, 2010 Will run express? There are no plans for that at all, just ideas floating around. That's one of the MAIN reasons they are fixing up the express tracks on the Culver Viaduct, was to have them in perfect running condition for future express service. Well I guess with the gone, anything might happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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