NX Express 292 Posted July 23, 2010 Share #1 Posted July 23, 2010 It’s a doomsday plan for New York’s geese. A nine-page report put together by a variety of national, state and city agencies shows that officials hope to reduce the number of Canada geese in New York to 85,000 from 250,000. That means that roughly 170,000 geese — two-thirds of the population — will be killed. The nearly 400 geese gassed to death this month after being rounded up in Prospect Park in Brooklyn — as well as an unknown number of other geese killed in New York City in recent weeks — were but a small part of the ambitious overall goal outlined in the document, which was obtained by City Room. “The state of New York has close to 250,000 resident Canada geese, which is more than three times the state’s population goal of 85,000,” the report states. It is unknown how many have been killed so far. The plan, according to a high-level official at the United States Department of Agriculture, was a result of five months of meetings between February and June 2009, after the crash of US Airways Flight 1549 in the Hudson River. Canada geese hit both of the jet’s engines, causing the splashdown. Those attending the meetings that yielded the plan included officials from the New York City Department of Parks and Recreation, the National Park Service and key staff members from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s office, the official said. He said that politicians peppered officials from the Department of Agriculture with questions about the science and asked how many goose strikes had occurred and the danger they posed. They learned that there have been 78 Canada goose strikes over 10 years in New York, and that those strikes caused more than $2.2 million in aircraft damage. The plan was written with the approval of everyone at that table, the official said, including this paragraph: “The captured geese are placed alive in commercial turkey crates. The geese would be brought to a secure location and euthanized with methods approved by the American Veterinary Medical Association. Euthanized geese would be buried.” Source: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/23/state-plans-to-eliminate-170000-canada-geese/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York 4,103 Posted July 23, 2010 Share #2 Posted July 23, 2010 I figured it would come to this. Especially after the US Airways plane went down in The Hudson. Bird strikes are a major issue all across the country, and geese cause the most damage to jet engines, as well as windshields on smaller aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messino 1 Posted July 23, 2010 Share #3 Posted July 23, 2010 Kill em all! let god sort em out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude 123 Posted July 24, 2010 Share #4 Posted July 24, 2010 This seems really wrong. I don't like the idea at all and I'm not even an animal enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix 3 Posted July 24, 2010 Share #5 Posted July 24, 2010 This isn't right at all. It's completely inhumane and is a complete disregard for life. Why should humans kill nature just because it gets in our way? Why don't we redesign flight plans to avoid common migration routes? Why don't we improve nature reserves and parks so the geese have a nice, non-intrusive place to go? And I bet the people who think geese should be slaughtered in a mass genocide are the same who think abortion is murder. An adult goose is capable of more than, and is more intelligent than a damned zygote or fetus. And here's the deal: let's kill the geese. Considering that geese can and sometimes eat small insects. Let's totally destroy the ecological balance and let the mosquitoes run rampant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman 8 Posted July 24, 2010 Share #6 Posted July 24, 2010 I wonder how many passengers on that US Airways flight are against this plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse 2,690 Posted July 24, 2010 Share #7 Posted July 24, 2010 Those geese are just as bad if not worse than pigeons here in the city, they eat and leave their poop everywhere. That population needs to be curbed. Hell aren't their feathers used in down coats/comforters? Could make some money from those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York 4,103 Posted July 24, 2010 Share #8 Posted July 24, 2010 This isn't right at all. It's completely inhumane and is a complete disregard for life. Why should humans kill nature just because it gets in our way? Why don't we redesign flight plans to avoid common migration routes? Why don't we improve nature reserves and parks so the geese have a nice, non-intrusive place to go? And I bet the people who think geese should be slaughtered in a mass genocide are the same who think abortion is murder. An adult goose is capable of more than, and is more intelligent than a damned zygote or fetus. And here's the deal: let's kill the geese. Considering that geese can and sometimes eat small insects. Let's totally destroy the ecological balance and let the mosquitoes run rampant. As easy as it sounds, it's just not that simple. NYC is unique in that we have 3 major (2 of which are international) airports within a short distance from each other. Not only that, there is so much water surrounding the area that this is the only way. I knew last January that it would come to this. Not to sound harsh, but would anyone care if the city gassed all the rats in the subway system? Canadian Geese are a serious hazard, and if nothing is done, this will happen again. Only next time............. Do you know how rare and super hard it is to land a commercial airliner on water?? To my knowlege, it has only been done once without fatalities. Plus there are over 400 bird strikes a year! You just don't hear about them. as inhumane as it sound's, and we think it is, It will likely save human livesA I wonder how many passengers on that US Airways flight are against this plan? So do I!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy 2,321 Posted July 24, 2010 Share #9 Posted July 24, 2010 As easy as it sounds, it's just not that simple. NYC is unique in that we have 3 major (2 of which are international) airports within a short distance from each other. Not only that, there is so much water surrounding the area that this is the only way. I knew last January that it would come to this. Not to sound harsh, but would anyone care if the city gassed all the rats in the subway system? Canadian Geese are a serious hazard, and if nothing is done, this will happen again. Only next time............. Do you know how rare and super hard it is to land a commercial airliner on water?? To my knowlege, it has only been done once without fatalities. Plus there are over 400 bird strikes a year! You just don't hear about them. as inhumane as it sound's, and we think it is, It will likely save human lives Yup just imagine if that plane had come down IN the city instead of in the river. Anything to prevent a catastrophe is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse 2,690 Posted July 24, 2010 Share #10 Posted July 24, 2010 Thank god the pilot had some military experience. I'm not sure if that's the reason he was able to land the plane perfectly in the river, but one would hope there doesn't arise a situation where another person would have to do the same 'landing'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67thAve 56 Posted July 25, 2010 Share #11 Posted July 25, 2010 Send them to Nunavut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransitStop 1 Posted July 25, 2010 Share #12 Posted July 25, 2010 huh, it doesnt seem right to do but because i dont have a rebuttle i cant really say anything lol.... and besides send them back to us lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave 1,998 Posted July 25, 2010 Share #13 Posted July 25, 2010 I don't care how many bugs these geese eat, they poop all over the place, which spreads tons of bacteria and disease (though it may be good fertilizer). I can live with a mosquito bite, but I sure as hell don't want to slip on some poop in a field (which I see all the time), cut myself, and end up with some nasty infection. Some of those geese are pretty nasty and can scare little kids that "invade" their territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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