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MTA's 4-year plan: Fare and toll hikes in January, pay freezes for workers

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The MTA says it can avoid further service cuts for four years - but riders and transit workers will still be in for a bumpy ride.

 

Transit officials Wednesday will officially unveil a four-year financial plan that includes fare and toll hikes in January and again in 2013.

 

Transit workers would see their pay frozen for two years unless they agree to work rule changes or other concessions covering the cost of raises.

 

Officials concede the plan has its share of risks and uncertainties, like the performance of the economy, levels of state funding and the ability of labor and management to find middle ground in contract negotiations.

 

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/07/28/2010-07-28_mta_roller_coaster_foresees_no_cuts_in_service_but_will_hike_fares_tolls__freeze.html#ixzz0uyu4Ey4z

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Transit workers would see their pay frozen for two years unless they agree to work rule changes or other concessions covering the cost of raises.

 

The union will not agree to a two-year wage freeze. This'll be one of the most contentious contract negotiations to date.

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The union will not agree to a two-year wage freeze. This'll be one of the most contentious contract negotiations to date.

 

Oh yeah totally agree....

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The union will not agree to a two-year wage freeze. This'll be one of the most contentious contract negotiations to date.

 

To say the least. I don't see this ending well for either parties....

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The union will not agree to a two-year wage freeze. This'll be one of the most contentious contract negotiations to date.

 

This isn't meant to be anti-union, but if the agency is running at a deficit how can raises to employees possibly be justified?

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This isn't meant to be anti-union, but if the agency is running at a deficit how can raises to employees possibly be justified?

 

If its in the Contract thats another matter..

 

Now if it has to be negotiated thats something different..

 

Go to Arbitration take it from there.

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I'm really, really starting to hate Jay Walder. His solution to everything: Pay more for shittier service. I bet he would even increase the fare to $10. When the fare reaches $5/ride, I'm done with the subway.

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I would take service cuts over fare hikes!!!:P

 

Thats the problem cant cut much more..

 

Do you ride the IRT often?

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I'm really, really starting to hate Jay Walder. His solution to everything: Pay more for shittier service. I bet he would even increase the fare to $10. When the fare reaches $5/ride, I'm done with the subway.

 

What would you do if you were him?

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What would you do if you were him?

 

Since hes not "aware" of the Enteral workings of the (MTA) I'm not sure he would know.

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What would you do if you were him?

There are many other things that can be done instead of raising the fare every 20 minutes. Let's see...

 

1) Reduce weekday train frequencies on the 1, 6, and 7.

2) Restore the (6)'s 125th Street Shuttle late nights, considering the (4) is local

3) Halt 2nd Av. Subway construction (it's bound to stop anyway)

 

and those are just some of the things that could be done

 

*note: feasibility of these procedures is questionable at best

**note: these plans may not be realistic at all

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Whats not mentioned much is the overbudget of much of these capital programs he "wont shave a dime of funding from". And I'll actually take a pay freeze (for a year) but there better be some juicy add-ons in other areas in exchange for that.

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1) Reduce weekday train frequencies on the 1, 6, and 7.

 

Do you ride these trains during these times?

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Do you ride these trains during these times?

 

As a matter of fact, I do.

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As a matter of fact, I do.

 

Then you know that the ridership is warrented then...:P

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There are many other things that can be done instead of raising the fare every 20 minutes. Let's see...

 

1) Reduce weekday train frequencies on the 1, 6, and 7.

2) Restore the (6)'s 125th Street Shuttle late nights, considering the (4) is local

3) Halt 2nd Av. Subway construction (it's bound to stop anyway)

 

and those are just some of the things that could be done

 

*note: feasibility of these procedures is questionable at best

**note: these plans may not be realistic at all

 

None of those would work. 1 is not possible, that level of service is needed. Service cuts reduce ridership and income. 2 is the only one that makes any possible sense. 3 does nothing because SAS has been needed for 80 years and that only helps the capital budget anyway.

 

What needs to be done is get rid of paper pushers, plans to implement un needed new technology and/or gadgets, and other un needed jobs and redundant management and focus on SERVICE. Then SOMEONE needs to find a way to go and get more money from BOTH the city and the state because Cheapberg and Walking Stick Patterson would rather fund their cronies than anything that benefits their constituencies.

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Some cuts that could be done

 

Run the (R) as a shuttle for an additional 2 hours on Sunday mornings

Run the (R) as a shuttle for an additional hour on Saturday mornings

 

Cut the (Q) Astoria service back by 1 hour weekday evenings

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i smell a strike........................

 

After what happened last time, I'm not too sure...

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Whats not mentioned much is the overbudget of much of these capital programs he "wont shave a dime of funding from".

 

That's where the money is going. Every project is late on arrival and overbudget. The MTA needs to spend alot of time on how to cut back on that.

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maybe the system should shut down over nite then......no service betw the hrs of like 1-4 am.........All these crappy countdown clocks and now cell phone service BS needs to stop and put that money else where......put off some station rehabs.....they've been Rehabing 59st forever !!!

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