Why do you think Bathrooms aren't provided to customers throughout the NYC Subway?

[EASF 0]

Hey guys! im always thinking about why theres not restrooms in the subways, and I've though maybe because that can be an extra charge for the city, and it would be a place for some people to do sick things, like use drugs, vandalism, ect. so i think those are some reason why there not restrooms in subways stations, but i think in my personal opinion a least they should put some in the main stations like i said in this thread, http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19191#post19191

like in 125st for both side( D & 4 lines), grand central, and all the others which most of the trains connects. well, this is what i think.. let me know guys why you think there should be or no restrooms in subways stations. oh by the way i was yesterday in wall st station of the 4 train, and i saw that there was a restroom for man, and womens. but my brother told me that they are closed, and they are there because wall st was one of the first station made. so i dont know if that is true? tell me what you think.

[East New York 4,104]

I always thought it had something to do with safty, or the fact that when they were built in the early 1900's maybe they just assumed no one would be waiting long enough.

[DOB2RTO 29]

They are there. You want to use it, better have a employee pass. I used them at 145st/B'way , Westchester Ave/Tremont Ave. (6x), and use them at 241st/WPR .

[keysersoze 0]

but i think in my personal opinion a least they should put some in the main stations like i said in this thread like in 125st for both side( D & 4 lines), grand central, and all the others which most of the trains connects.

There are restrooms in many stations throughout all boroughs but they are almost all closed. Just look out for the mosaic signs "women" or "men" at platforms or in mezzanines, and the grilled-off/blocked doors next to that signs, there are plenty of them (e.g. Myrtle-Willoughby Avs on the IND Crosstown and City Hall on the BMT Broadway); I've read once they've all been closed because it would simply be too much of an effort to put and/or keep them in a, let's say halfway clean state.

 

Btw, Grand Central definitely has public and free restrooms, on the lower MNRR level adjacent to the food court. I've used them last year.

[TransitGuy 1]

I think restrooms aren't in stations or at least not very open is because of safety, vandalism and many other reasons. Let's be honest, most of the current bathrooms there are pretty bad.

[R32 3348 11]

Sheer cost. I think in the book Subwayland, it states somewhere that the amount of money needed to replace or install one bathroom in a station, pipes and all can add up to tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[Pablo M 201 35]

Safety and the way people would treat them and just tear it apart left to right and the MTA don't wanna pay to repair or clean it later. If you want a bathroom, look for the closest restaurant to do your business before you leave home or wherever you're coming from.

[East New York 4,104]

They are there. You want to use it, better have a employee pass. I used them at 145st/B'way , Westchester Ave/Tremont Ave. (6x), and use them at 241st/WPR .

 

LOL. We know that DOB, we're talking about ones for common folk like us!

[S/A Vee 11]

there is public bathrooms in some stations. You would not want step foot in them. Or know what goes on their. I feel sorry for cleaners that have to clean those things.

[error46146 1,007]

there is public bathrooms in some stations. You would not want step foot in them. Or know what goes on their. I feel sorry for cleaners that have to clean those things.

all public bathrooms, not just the ones in the subway, are disgusting.

[R1Toasty 0]

The one at 42nd st on the wasn't too bad the last time I used it, but somewhere the is a list of the stations with open rest rooms. I'm pretty sure Brooklyn Bridge - City Hall has one too. I do know that a lot have been closed due to issues with maintenance and such. It's too bad there aren't more restrooms in the subway though... we have to go find one somewhere (I remember this was a problem with my dad last time).

[BJC 4]

who want to use the restroom in the subway station....I don't even even use the restroom at my school.

[DOB2RTO 29]

LOL. We know that DOB, we're talking about ones for common folk like us!

 

Come on, you all do have restrooms. Same place others leave their crap. On the floors of the buses, and trains.......

 

 

To all: Why should the provide restrooms? Customers can't clean up behind themselves on the buses, train platforms and trains. Just stop by KB depot, and look how the freshly painted Level II artic buses, have graffiti all over them. Look at how filthy they are after finishing a few round trips. Windows have scratchitti, and graffiti in and out. It was a waste of money to Level II Kingsbridge buses. Now I know why we get others crap. Our customers (artic lines only), do not deserve better, at all. To many kids and adults, with too little respect and discipline. Most are broke. Imaging what they would do to the bathrooms, when "waiting for the train".

 

For the restrooms I used, the best is at 241st/WPR. Clean. The worst was 145/B'way. Clean, but dingy.

[East New York 4,104]

Come on, you all do have restrooms. Same place others leave their crap. On the floors of the buses, and trains.......

 

 

To all: Why should the provide restrooms? Customers can't clean up behind themselves on the buses, train platforms and trains. Just stop by KB depot, and look how the freshly painted Level II artic buses, have graffiti all over them. Look at how filthy they are after finishing a few round trips. Windows have scratchitti, and graffiti in and out. It was a waste of money to Level II Kingsbridge buses. Now I know why we get others crap. Our customers (artic lines only), do not deserve better, at all. To many kids and adults, with too little respect and discipline. Most are broke. Imaging what they would do to the bathrooms, when "waiting for the train".

 

For the restrooms I used, the best is at 241st/WPR. Clean. The worst was 145/B'way. Clean, but dingy.

 

Scratchitti, and graffiti seem to be a major problem in da BX! It's rare these days down here in da BK.

[DOB2RTO 29]

Scratchitti, and graffiti seem to be a major problem in da BX! It's rare these days down here in da BK.

 

 

Drivers who left KB and who went into Brooklyn, love it there. They would never come back. The people ain't beggers, the bosses let minor stuff go, rarely does anyone sneak through the back door, they get days off quicker, etc......Hands down the Bronx is the worst, loses the most farebox revenue per customer, and have the most farebeats. Maybe that is why the Bronx had the biggest ridership increase. They all figure they can ride for free. It ain't free as we do press the 5 button, so all customers are counted for. Sneak through the back door, I count of how many, and press the 5 or F5 button that many times.

 

That is why we don't understand why management in the Bx is so quick to hang a driver. The customers get the most service per farebox fare. that means money losing operation. I wouldn't even have a dispatcher on any line. Let the buses roll as the drivers want. Bronx customers should get what they pay for. Very little. What the state gives shouldn't matter, just to make a statement to our Bronx customers. Yes some fare paying customer will suffer to. Just like the legal system, some good will suffer, just to get to the bad.

[East New York 4,104]

Drivers who left KB and who went into Brooklyn, love it there. They would never come back. The people ain't beggers, the bosses let minor stuff go, rarely does anyone sneak through the back door, they get days off quicker, etc......Hands down the Bronx is the worst, loses the most farebox revenue per customer, and have the most farebeats. Maybe that is why the Bronx had the biggest ridership increase. They all figure they can ride for free. It ain't free as we do press the 5 button, so all customers are counted for. Sneak through the back door, I count of how many, and press the 5 or F5 button that many times.

 

That is why we don't understand why management in the Bx is so quick to hang a driver. The customers get the most service per farebox fare. that means money losing operation. I wouldn't even have a dispatcher on any line. Let the buses roll as the drivers want. Bronx customers should get what they pay for. Very little. What the state gives shouldn't matter, just to make a statement to our Bronx customers. Yes some fare paying customer will suffer to. Just like the legal system, some good will suffer, just to get to the bad.

 

Let sombody get on a BK bus without paying! As a matter of fact I haven't seen that in a while!. If you are a few coins short, it's all good, but if not, you will be off at the next stop in a heartbeat! They don't play. I've seen people get kicked off just for arguing. Plus our buses always seem to be too packed for grafitti to ever happen.

[SubwayGuy 2,322]

The worst was 145/B'way. Clean, but dingy.

 

My personal least favorite would be the ones at Parsons. The smell of piss is simply ingrained into the floors and walls, and last time I was there, someone apparently didn't even bother to "hit the mark" when they were dropping a deuce and the "aftermath" was there, so I completely understand the decision not to open up more public restrooms.

[DOB2RTO 29]

Let sombody get on a BK bus without paying! As a matter of fact I haven't seen that in a while!. If you are a few coins short, it's all good, but if not, you will be off at the next stop in a heartbeat! They don't play. I've seen people get kicked off just for arguing. Plus our buses always seem to be too packed for grafitti to ever happen.

 

 

I heard about the fare thing in Brooklyn. That is why the drivers love it there, in STI, in Manhattan, and in Queens. The Bronx, the complete opposite. When our buses are packed, that is when they take the opportunity to tag the bus. We can't see them. Actually, I could care less if they did it in front of me. I could care less if someone came in and ripped out the farebox. I would call it in, and let them know I was continuing in service, without the farebox.............

[EASF 0]

hey guys! wow, i read all the opinions and i think its true and some of you think the same way as me. theres not bathroom open for the public because most of the people dont have the education to clean their stuff after they use the bathroom, as someone in here said, a lot ot kids from high school would be messing up in the bathrooms, breaking things, and so on. but i think theres should be a least one bathroom in the main stations(someone in here stays there're bathroom in some of the stations open to the public) i would prefer to be with the permission of the clerk before letting someone in. and about using public bathrooms, most of the people wont do it, its true most of them are disgusting. nobody wants to sit their butt in those toilet. but you never know, sometimes you cannot wait half an hour or 45 mins. but if theres bathrooms in some stations open for the public thats fine, sorry for my ignorance about it. but thank you all for your answer.

 

subway system - the best in the world;), eventhough with their little deffects, but hey, nothing is perfect in this world.

[DOB2RTO 29]

My personal least favorite would be the ones at Parsons. The smell of piss is simply ingrained into the floors and walls, and last time I was there, someone apparently didn't even bother to "hit the mark" when they were dropping a deuce and the "aftermath" was there, so I completely understand the decision not to open up more public restrooms.

 

It happened when I worked in Circuit city in Yonkers (back in 2000). Went into the restroom, and it looked like someone just pressed their rear up against the wall, and released their bowels. Then they left their draws in the sink. When I drove OTR coaches, someone did it to the bathroom in the bus. All over the toilet, and the wall facing away from the toilet. I mean to do something like that, one has to see demons in the restroom, that scared the living sh!t out of them, and they crapped all over the place while fighting the demon.

 

Humans are the nastiest animals on earth.

[EASF 0]

It happened when I worked in Circuit city in Yonkers (back in 2000). Went into the restroom, and it looked like someone just pressed their rear up against the wall, and released their bowels. Then they left their draws in the sink. When I drove OTR coaches, someone did it to the bathroom in the bus. All over the toilet, and the wall facing away from the toilet. I mean to do something like that, one has to see demons in the restroom, that scared the living sh!t out of them, and they crapped all over the place while fighting the demon.

 

Humans are the nastiest animals on earth.

 

lol, that was nasty. yeah i agree with you - we humans are the nastiest animals on earth.

[SubwayGuy 2,322]

It happened when I worked in Circuit city in Yonkers (back in 2000). Went into the restroom, and it looked like someone just pressed their rear up against the wall, and released their bowels. Then they left their draws in the sink. When I drove OTR coaches, someone did it to the bathroom in the bus. All over the toilet, and the wall facing away from the toilet. I mean to do something like that, one has to see demons in the restroom, that scared the living sh!t out of them, and they crapped all over the place while fighting the demon.

 

Humans are the nastiest animals on earth.

 

Yeah I was gonna say...there better be a DAMN good reason for horizontal diarrhea, but usually when it happens, there isn't. A lot of people are a**holes, and a**holes shit all over everything, right? Cue the Team America World Police quotes, now that I think of it...

[Fred G 63]

I remember when the bathrooms were last open and it was awful. Not only were they filthy but they were dangerous; people were getting mugged. I'd say they were closed in the public's mind long before they were physically closed. Just say NO! :mad:

 

It does suck, though, as civilized countries have bathrooms everywhere, but given the fact that people are such slobs it's best to skip them altogether. Just keep a handle on your beverage intake while railfanning

[KTrainExp 16]

Disgusting experiences. Another problem is when there is no more tissue paper. In a restaurante I went to, someone used newspapers to wipe their ass. That sickened me and they left it in the sink. I didn't touch the sink and I just left the restaurante without giving any tips.

 

Another thing I noticed is something on the LIRR. There is a damn bathroom every other car and yet, there is STILL pee near the door. Those lazy ass people are dumb. Just get your put and move to the next car...

[trainfan22 2,248]

newspapers to wipe their ass.

 

LOL i busted out laughing when i read that LOL..