Splitting the (F) train

[CenSin]

if they cant stand r160s..

I wonder if this is the seed that will sprout into another R## vs. R160 argument. I hope not.

[Nova RTS 9147]

Hey, i have to wait almost 20 minutes on weekends up here on QB lol

 

Anyway in case i didnt make it too clear this is exactly what I want:

 

1) Allocate about 2 or 3 extra trains on the R

2) Every other train leaving Continental would short turn at City Hall

3) To make them in Brooklyn happy, every other train would short turn at Whitehall

4) I really doubt anyone would have a need to take the R train all the way from Bay Ridge up to Continental, and even if they did they can either transfer to the N and make their ride faster, or just wait for the next train if they cant stand r160s..

 

Just because someone might not need to go from Bay Ridge to Forest Hills doesn't mean the line is automatically moot. People do go from Manhattan to Queens on a regular basis.

 

Your plan to short turn every other train at City Hall/Whitehall complicates things that much more for those who have to go from Brooklyn to Manhattan and vice versa (now someone is waiting twice as long to get to their destination). And while it may help those who have to go to the southern tip of Lower Manhattan, it doesnt help anyone who has to go to Rector/Cortland, and it's kind of difficult to turn a train at City Hall in a timely fashion (An train from Queens would have to reverse at City Hall back to Canal via the uptown track, then switch over back to City Hall, causing some big delays).

 

As for the R160 thing, it's just a train. If you have that big of an ire for a certain fleet that you're willing to delay yourself for the next train (that might not go to your stop anyway) then you're probably a foamer.

 

I wonder if this is the seed that will sprout into another R## vs. R160 argument. I hope not.

 

Oh god no...

[CenSin]

As for the R160 thing, it's just a train. If you have that big of an ire for a certain fleet that you're willing to delay yourself for the next train (that might not go to your stop anyway) then you're probably a foamer.

The probability is 100% certain!

[NX Express]

The way it is is logical, because the QBL Exp needs high frequency, as well as the Culver. One hi-freq line is better than 2.

[R32 3348]

It only would work during rush hours Error when the has 4-6 minute headways. Other then that, Bay Ridge/4th Ave local riders south of Pacific/Atlalntic will go nuts waiting 10 minutes or more for a train. When recession ends, the should consider running the rush hours to/from 95th/Bay Ridge. Or bring back the Banker's Special Nassau Line in which it ran to Chambers until 1986-87, when the Manhattan Bridge rebuilding got underway.

The runs 6-8 minute headways during rush hour, not 4-6. Short-turning trains at Whitehall wouldn't be a problem if the ran at 4 minute headways, so Brooklyn riders would wait 8 minutes max for an . However, that's not going to happen.

 

Also, the and do not need to be split considering that the is express in Queens, only takes about 20 minutes to go through Manhattan and spends the majority of its time in Brooklyn. Meanwhile the is express in Manhattan and Brooklyn, and hardly spends any time in Queens if it goes to Ozone Park (which the majority of trains do). I would oppose a train to Lefferts, because Rockaway really does not need that much service. If you've been down there during rush hour you see that the trains aren't that crowded, and the headways are like every 8 minutes during rush hour down there.

[2Line1291]

I don't see why the would need to be split either plus it was never mentioned by to make that move. I sorta in a way see why the would propose splitting the because of its performance but hopefully things would improve when the Culver renovations is done.

[E train line]

Yes It should be spit

[Roadcruiser1]

Nope and I quote to you guys again. The only way take away the load and time frequency of the lines is to build new lines so new services can take the load out of most of today's lines. That will never happen in a million years. By the time the do that it would be the year 4000 and our descendants would already have flying cars. Besides if people want to take the load off the then they can bring back the between 57th Street and Ave X and dig a short connector from the Montague Street tunnel to serve as the Culver local. Then the can run as a Culver express. Though that could only be considered when the economy is better.

[LRG]

Yes It should be spit

 

Do elaborate.

[CenSin]

Nope and I quote to you guys again. The only way take away the load and time frequency of the lines is to build new lines so new services can take the load out of most of today's lines. That will never happen in a million years. By the time the do that it would be the year 4000 and our descendants would already have flying cars. Besides if people want to take the load off the then they can bring back the between 57th Street and Ave X and dig a short connector from the Montague Street tunnel to serve as the Culver local. Then the can run as a Culver express. Though that could only be considered when the economy is better.

You always seem to expect us to accept your ideas, but never appeal to reason. Why do you specifically want to have a that starts from 57 Street, runs to Brooklyn, runs via the Culver line via a tunnel that will cost a hefty sum of money to build, and to Avenue X? You just jumped from train frequency to building new infrastructure with little explanation about the things in between.

 

If you really want to get it done, I'd suggest spending your time getting acquainted with people who can place you in a seat with power to exercise your imagination. (I wouldn't know if such a seat exists now, but it did before.)

[2Line1291]

Please!!!!! no more trains to getting in front of the . We already have the , not another one.

[Bill from Maspeth]

I didn't know the F goes to Whitehall or City Hall.

 

If it did, then it's not the F!

 

Learn something new every day around here!

[Bill from Maspeth]

Splitting the R would be more useful if you ask me..

Where would you turn each section?

 

Wouldn't that cost NYCT more money? More trains required?

 

Oh yeah, they don't have extra $$$$ to spend.

[Bill from Maspeth]

How would that be? Send trains via 31st Street?

Nah, 76th St.!

[Bill from Maspeth]

Interesting idea. I know you could terminate southbound (F)s at 2 Av., but where northbound? If only...no, I've got it: 2 Av would be perfect. Then call what runs from Jamaica-179 St. to 2 Av the , and 2nd to Stillwell: . There would need to be a crossover north of Essex, and I'd...I'll leave it at that. ...Wide area after 2 Av., there could be one of those Metro-North speed switches (interlockings).

And inconvience passengers who have to change trains @ Second Ave.

 

Brillant idea!

[Bill from Maspeth]

Hey, i have to wait almost 20 minutes on weekends up here on QB lol

 

Anyway in case i didnt make it too clear this is exactly what I want:

 

1) Allocate about 2 or 3 extra trains on the R

2) Every other train leaving Continental would short turn at City Hall

3) To make them in Brooklyn happy, every other train would short turn at Whitehall

4) I really doubt anyone would have a need to take the R train all the way from Bay Ridge up to Continental, and even if they did they can either transfer to the N and make their ride faster, or just wait for the next train if they cant stand r160s..

This thread is about as intelligent as the strappies site.

[Nova RTS 9147]

I didn't know the F goes to Whitehall or City Hall.

 

If it did, then it's not the F!

 

Learn something new every day around here!

 

It's like a bad version of the Discovery Channel right?

 

Where would you turn each section?

 

Wouldn't that cost NYCT more money? More trains required?

 

Oh yeah, they don't have extra $$$$ to spend.

 

You don't know? Here it comes out of thin air. Just clap your heels three times and a tornado drops $12 billion at headquarters.

 

This thread is about as intelligent as the strappies site.

 

:tup::tup::tup::tup::tup:

[iGeMiNix]

You don't know? Here it comes out of thin air. Just clap your heels three times and a tornado drops $12 billion at headquarters.

Yeah but the tornado would just do enough damage that the $12 billion it drops is spent on repairs.

[NewFlyer 230]

The cannot be split. The and help the if there is a delay or to create more room on trains, Even though the has 16 stop to Smith 9th and 21 to Church Ave

[Roadcruiser1]

Oh yeah this is what I meant. This map should take some of the time and the load off the .

 

[Broadway Local]

What does this have to do by splitting the ?

[Roadcruiser1]

It relates to the subject because it takes time off for anyone living by the Culver Line and complains the is too slow.

[Grand Concourse]

I am waiting for the day any of these "ideas" don't suck.

 

The number of threads with them in it just keeps multiplying yet they serve absolutely no purpose.

 

Maybe it's time to bring back the "fantasy map forum" as a form of quarantine for the skullduggery on this board...

 

Yes! There needs to be such a fantasy forum so this one isn't plagued by such 'ideas'. I'm all for it. Bring back some sanity here B)

[Grand Concourse]

Do elaborate.

 

LMAO! Another 'fine' post. I just wonder why he's here other than to 'twitter' his thoughts? Just another troll.

[asidrane]

Yes! There needs to be such a fantasy forum so this one isn't plagued by such 'ideas'. I'm all for it. Bring back some sanity here B)

 

Why not just ignore threads you aren't interested in?