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Stations that Shoud be closed Down

67thAve

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Shortline Bus

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Aqueduct Racetrack(A)

Beverly Road(:P(Q)

Beach 105th Street(A)(S)

Roosevelt Island(F) (Queens-bound only)

Neck Road(B)(Q)

 

67th Ave making a proposal without thinking about it again.

 

If totally disagree with those selections. Honestly 67th Ave have you been on the Brighton Line (B)(Q)? Rush Hours all of those stations you proposed to close i.e Neck Rd and Beverly Rd gets very busy.

 

If you had to propose any NYC subway station at all(I am not endorsing it)it should only be a few very lightly used stations during overnights mentioned below in worst case scenrio.

For instance the Rector St station on the (R)(N) could be considered since it no more than 2 blocks from the (4) wall st/bway and (1)rector st/greenwich stations. Or the entire Rockaway Park (S) station between Beach 116th and Board Channel. Or even the Franklin St or 18th St (1)stations since it 4 blocks from Chambers(Franklin) or 14th St(18th St)express stations.

Plus money to get workers to close those stops as well.

 

Other than those handful of stations overnights late at night not a good idea.:tdown:

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@67th Ave: You do realize that besides Aqueduct Racetrack and B105th Street, the stations you listed are pretty well used for the areas they serve. Proof here.

 

@Shortline Bus: As stated before somewhere in these forums (I'm not looking it up), closing down stations and certain lines overnight would cost more money than keeping them open 24/7 due to the personnel that would be needed to clean out said stations.

 

@CKhaleel: The same could be said for a few stations in the system. The first that comes to mind is 145 St on the (3) line. It's only a few blocks away from Lenox Terminal and yet people raised hell when (NYCT) mentioned closing it after 148 St was opened.

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rtype3995

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if hes talking about in terms of riders(or lack there of)here are some:

aqueduct-n-conduit

broad channel

west 8th st

clinton washington on the g

fulton st on the g

rector st on the n

christopher st

houston st

lawrence st

hoyt st on the 2/3

182/183 on the d

broadway on the g

145 on the 3

van siclen on the 3

36th st on the r and m line in queens

thats all i can think of off the top of my head in terms of low volume and if u wanted to close them..............

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Yes even if our subway has long delays due to repair and construction, smells like wet dog, is so overcrowded that you can't get on, and is a pain the a** on your budget you are lucky that this city even has transportation. Some large cities like Tampa doesn't even have a subway. So what are you talking about. Accept our subway system as it is. It's the longest, most frequent, and one of the most famous subway systems in the world. It's one of the fewest subway systems in the world to run 24/7 rain or shine. So count your lucky a** that you live here and embrace it.

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Have you seen the ridership at those two stations? Theyre both actually quite significant.
Absolutely wrong.

 

You need both stations because if one were closed, you'd have crowd control problems since the stairways and platforms are so narrow..

This is hypothetical and all, but I think that next time both stations are slated to be renovated (which shouldn't be for a while), they should just close the lesser-used station and renovate the other, adding regular-width platforms (since the current widths are ridiculous) to avoid crowding issues. Of course, I don't know how feasible that would be, but considering that they tear down the entire platform anyway when renovating the stations out there...

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This is hypothetical and all, but I think that next time both stations are slated to be renovated (which shouldn't be for a while), they should just consolidate it into one station (i.e. just build a new station between the two and close the old ones) and build normal-width platforms (nearly all the platform widths on the Brighton Line are ridiculous) to avoid crowding issues. Of course, I don't know how feasible that would be, but considering that they tear down the entire platform anyway when renovating the stations out there...

 

Logical, but tearing the platform down only works when the station is on an embankment/elevated. Cortelyou and Beverly, IIRC, are carved into the wall.

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if hes talking about in terms of riders(or lack there of): 145 on the 3
Sadly, that station won't be closed, even though it was proposed for closure after Harlem - 148 St opened 42 years ago.

 

The other reason I've read (I apologize for not having sources) is that when the transit authority built the 148 Street-Lenox terminal it was planning to abandon 145 Street but there was uproar from apartment buildings that wanted the station kept and wanted to avoid having to walk the ~1/3 mile to the 148 Street-Lenox Terminal Station.
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rtype3995

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This is hypothetical and all, but I think that next time both stations are slated to be renovated (which shouldn't be for a while), they should just close the lesser-used station and renovate the other, adding regular-width platforms (since the current widths are ridiculous) to avoid crowding issues. Of course, I don't know how feasible that would be, but considering that they tear down the entire platform anyway when renovating the stations out there...

 

just about all the stations on the brighton line from ocean pkwy-prospect park are fairly busy in terms of ridership......

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@67th Ave: You do realize that besides Aqueduct Racetrack and B105th Street, the stations you listed are pretty well used for the areas they serve. Proof here.

 

@Shortline Bus: As stated before somewhere in these forums (I'm not looking it up), closing down stations and certain lines overnight would cost more money than keeping them open 24/7 due to the personnel that would be needed to clean out said stations.

@CKhaleel: The same could be said for a few stations in the system. The first that comes to mind is 145 St on the (3) line. It's only a few blocks away from Lenox Terminal and yet people raised hell when (NYCT) mentioned closing it after 148 St was opened.

 

 

 

I agree in keeping 99% of the NYC stations open 24/7. However Lance what about stations that close to each other such as the Rector St (N)(R) to the (4) and (1) and is a waste to open all '3' of them since they are all 2 blocks from each other?

Ditto for the Franklin and 18th Sts. (1) stations. Or even the 21st/van Alst (G)station.

 

 

Not to mention the (J) stations at Broad and Fulton is already closed on weekends. These stations are ghost towns overnights and why keep the stations mentioned open late nights for a small handful of riders. Plus nearby stations are nearby in all of the stations proposed.

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if hes talking about in terms of riders(or lack there of)here are some:

1: broad channel

 

2:rector st on the n

 

3:christopher st

 

 

1: Where would passengers switch for the (A)(S) in either direction?

 

2: I live down here; that station does not need to be closed down at all. When the (1) is closed up for construction it and the (4) station at Wall are the next best thing. Also lets not forget the (4) and (N) come down here from two different sides of Manhattan

 

3: go to Christopher St on a Friday/Saturday night and tell me that station needs to be closed or has a lack of riders.

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1: Where would passengers switch for the (A)(S) in either direction?

 

2: I live down here; that station does not need to be closed down at all. When the (1) is closed up for construction it and the (4) station at Wall are the next best thing. Also lets not forget the (4) and (N) come down here from two different sides of Manhattan

 

3: go to Christopher St on a Friday/Saturday night and tell me that station needs to be closed or has a lack of riders.

 

How about a shuttle bus between Beach 67th and beach 116? Until recently the (3) shuttle overnights was a shuttle bus between 148th and 135th.

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Thing is Shortline i get that these station closures are proposed to be permanent so riders wouldn't go for a shuttle bus like that 24/7.

 

67th was way off base in suggesting to pemanetly closing these stations 24/7. In worst case scenrio, only a handful of stations overnight in these tough economic times that I already mentioned should it get to that point.

 

I could be wrong but looks like 67th never rode on the Brighton Line and looked on a map without ever riding it before making his suggestion.

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This is hypothetical and all, but I think that next time both stations are slated to be renovated (which shouldn't be for a while), they should just close the lesser-used station and renovate the other, adding regular-width platforms (since the current widths are ridiculous) to avoid crowding issues. Of course, I don't know how feasible that would be, but considering that they tear down the entire platform anyway when renovating the stations out there...

 

I totally agree with that idea, that or put the new station in the middle and keep the current entrances from both stations, but have people walk to it from both ends. Have the new station be called Beverley-Cortelyou Rd.

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As for 105th, I do agree that station should be closed down. It's right next to a water treatment plant.

 

21st St on the (G), I would also say should be closed because of the proximity to Court St and that it is in bad shape.

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1: Where would passengers switch for the (A)(S) in either direction?

 

They could have the (S) run to Howard Beach, probably would be better since it's more inland and 'busy'/'safter' due to the AirTrain station above.

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Why the hell would you close roosevelt island station?

 

I read somewhere that if there was a major "event" in manhattan, that roosevelt island could be a very strategic location to evacuate people to, as well as setting up an operations command center due to where the tracks connect to in manhattan, as well as having access to GCT through the emergency exit.

 

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