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12 Years Ago: System-wide Bus Roster


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I did a bit of Google digging and found an old thread on here of a 2001 LI roster, [unnamed] being roasted on SubChat, and nice photos of the old private LI operators.

 

I do believe that all the former private operators on LI are long and gone, along with their personnel and buses... enough out of me about LIB.

 

Didn't the RTS buses have problems with their wheelchair lifts?

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Got me excited with the "systemwide" thing. No one has any LIB rosters from the 1990s?

 

Not a precise roster, but at the time, there were Gilligs in the low 500s (20 35-footers and 42 40-footers) from 500-561, diesel Orions 579-599 (1989) and 600-655 (1991), CNG Orions 656-666 (1992), and then 35 CNG buses from 101-141 were coming in brand new in 1996. Also around in 1996 were some 4200s (ex-NYCT/MaBSTOA 1981 GMC RTSs), some 5309s and 5310s in the 5300-5500 series (ex-NYCT, with many gaps and all over the place), Grumman 870s in the 700s and 900s (many retired by that point) along with Flxible Metro-As in the 1000 series (34 in all).

 

142-245 and 270-287 would spell the end for the fishbowls, the RTSs, and the 870s/Metro-As. (And to think that for four years in the mid-2000s (from 2004 until 1700 came in in late 2008 except for the now-defunct N53, there was only one model of bus for LIB regular service, along with a handful of 600-series diesels.)

 

The 1800s at LIB today fill in the function of the 600-series diesels.

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Sorry about replying late but here is the Green Bus Lines Roster 12 Years ago from now.(October 1999)

 

1979 GMC RTS-03 T8H-203 630-1, 1001, 1003-1006, 1007, 1008-1015

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-204 10001(221), 222-238, 240-268, 270-292, 649(239)

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-604 636-639, 641-647, 650, 655-658

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206 602-606, 607-608, 610-622, 648(609)

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-606 623-635, 640, 651-652

1987 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206M 653-654

1989 MCI Classic T40102A Suburban 701-704

1989 MCI Classic T40102A 705-716

1994 TMC RTS-06 T8O-206 1150-1182

1997 Orion V WMATA Rejects 5501-5544

 

Red=ex-Triboro Coach

Olive=ex-Command

Brown=ex-Jamaica Buses

Bold=Not In Service

 

Source:Nycsubway.org

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Jamaica Buses 1999 Roster

 

1972 GMC Fishbowl T6H-5308A Suburban 3001

1980 Grumman 870 401-402, 404-408, 411, 413, 416, 418, 420-421, 423

1981 GMC RTS-04 T8J-204 531

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-204 501-515, 517-523, 525-529, 530

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206 551-567

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-606 571-580

1987 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206M 3701

1989 MCI Classic T40102A Suburban 601-607

1989 MCI Classic T40102A 608

1993 TMC RTS-06 T8O-206 3830-3848

1994 TMC RTS-06 T8O-206 3849-3853

 

Bold=Not In Service

Underlined=Used in Rush Hour or Service Fillers

Black=ex-Out of NYC Area Company (531 ex-MDTA)

Green=ex-Green Lines

Olive=ex-Command

Red=ex-Trboro Coach

 

Source:Nycsubway.org

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RTS Corrections

 

1201-1658, | GM RTS-04 - 1981 - 47 buses - No

2201-2570

1659-1858, | GM RTS-04 - 1982 - 228 buses - No

2580-2704

3001-3325 | GM RTS-04 - 1983 - 309 buses - No

3400-3799 | GM RTS-04 - 1984 - 389 buses - No

3800-4218 | GM RTS-04 - 1985 - 413 buses - No

4300-4599 | GM RTS-04 - 1986 - 294 buses - No

4600-4899 | TMC RTS-06 - 1987 - 296 buses - No

7000-7574 | Reman. GMC - 1996 - 93 buses - No

8000-8400 | TMC RTS-06 - 1990 - 395 buses - No

8401-8567 | TMC RTS-06 - 1993 - 167 buses -

8600-8703 | TMC RTS-06 - 1994 - 104 buses -

8750-8752 | NB RTS-06 - 1995 - 3 buses -

8753-9349 | NB RTS-06 - 1996 - 557 buses -

9350-9525 | NB RTS-06 - 1997 - 600 buses -

4900-5104,| NB RTS-06 - 1998 - 379 buses -

9526-9699

 

4,181 Buses.

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I've got a list of some of the individual depots as well, but I thought this was a convenient list to compare against today.

 

#...........MODEL..........YEAR...TOTAL...In service today?

101-316 | BIA Orion 5 - 1993 - 217 buses - No

317-630 | BIA Orion 5 - 1994 - 231 buses - No

631-680 | BIA Orion 5 - 1996 - 50 buses - 31 units

1001-1069 | NF D60HF - 1997 - 70 buses - [51 units]

1070-1109 | NF D60HF - 1998 - 33 buses - [51 units]

1201-1658, | GM RTS-04 - 1981 - 47 buses - No

2201-2570

1659-1858, | GM RTS-04 - 1982 - 228 buses - No

2580-2704

1860-2039 | MCI coach - 1998 - 1 arrived - 179 units approx. 100 units

3001-3325 | GM RTS-04 - 1983 - 309 buses - No

3400-3799 | GM RTS-04 - 1984 - 389 buses - No

3800-4218 | GM RTS-04 - 1985 - 413 buses - No

4300-4599 | GM RTS-04 - 1986 - 294 buses - No

4600-4899 | TMC RTS-06 - 1987 - 296 buses - No

7000-7574 | Reman. GMC - 1996 - 93 buses - No

8000-8399 | TMC RTS-06 - 1990 - 394 buses - No

8401-8567 | TMC RTS-06 - 1993 - 167 buses - No

8600-8703 | TMC RTS-06 - 1994 - 104 buses - No

8750-9349 | NB RTS-06 - 1996 - 600 buses - 434 units

9350-9699 | NB RTS-06 - 1998 - 110 arrived - Yes

 

TOTAL BUSES - 4,046

 

what about the CNG O5's, or the NF C40's, or the 1998 diesel O5's??

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The 35ft. Gilligs were 500-520 and the 40ft. was 521-569(a few were repowered). The 1989 Orions were 578-599 and the 1991's were 600-656. The first CNG's were 657-666(these buses didn't last long). Metro A#1037 was a reserve bus until 2005 or 6 and I last saw it on the N6 around then.

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Sorry about replying late but here is the Green Bus Lines Roster 12 Years ago from now.(October 1999)

 

1979 GMC RTS-03 T8H-203 630-1, 1001, 1003-1006, 1007, 1008-1015

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-204 10001(221), 222-238, 240-268, 270-292, 649(239)

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-604 636-639, 641-647, 650, 655-658

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206 602-606, 607-608, 610-622, 648(609)

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-606 623-635, 640, 651-652

1987 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206M 653-654

1989 MCI Classic T40102A Suburban 701-704

1989 MCI Classic T40102A 705-716

1994 TMC RTS-06 T8O-206 1150-1182

1997 Orion V WMATA Rejects 5501-5544

 

Red=ex-Triboro Coach

Olive=ex-Command

Brown=ex-Jamaica Buses

Bold=Not In Service

 

Source:Nycsubway.org

 

Roster later on in 1999

 

1979 GMC RTS-03 T8H-203 630-1, 1001, 1003-1006, 1007, 1008-1015

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-204 10001(221), 222-238, 240-268, 270-292, 649(239)

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-604 636-639, 641-647, 650, 655-658

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206 602-606, 607-608, 610-622, 648(609)

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-606 623-635, 640, 651-652

1987 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206M 653-654

1989 MCI Classic T40102A Suburban 701-704, 717-718

1989 MCI Classic T40102A 705-716

1994 TMC RTS-06 T8O-206 1150-1182

1997 Orion V WMATA Rejects 5501-5544

 

Beginning of 2000

 

1979 GMC RTS-03 T8H-203 630-1, 1001, 1003-1006, 1008-1015

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-204 10001(221), 222-238, 240-268, 270-292, 649(239)

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-604 636-639, 641-647, 650, 655-659

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206 602-606, 607-608, 610-622, 648(609)

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-606 623-635, 640, 651-652

1987 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206M 653-654

1989 MCI Classic T40102A Suburban 701-702

1989 MCI Classic T40102A 705-716

1994 TMC RTS-06 T8O-206 1150-1182

1997 Orion V WMATA Rejects 5501-5544

1999 Orion V Suburban 719-722

 

Mid 2000 and later

 

1979 GMC RTS-03 T8H-203 1012

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-204 10001(221), 222-238, 240-268, 270-292, 649(239)

1985 GMC RTS-04 T8J-604 636-639, 641-647, 650, 655-659

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206 602-606, 607-608, 610-622, 648(609)

1986 GMC RTS-06 T8J-606 623-635, 640, 651-652

1987 GMC RTS-06 T8J-206M 653-654

1989 MCI Classic T40102A Suburban 701-704

1989 MCI Classic T40102A 705-716

1993 TMC RTS-06 T8O-206 1147-1149

1994 TMC RTS-06 T8O-206 1143-1146, 1150-1182

1997 Orion V WMATA Rejects 5501-5544, 5545-5550

1999 Orion V Suburban 719-722

 

Orange=ex-QSC

Light Blue=ex-NYBS

 

GBL's roster changed alot throughout a half year. 1143-1149, 5545-5550, 659 replaced 1001, 1003-1015 as in service buses due to their old age(21 at the time)B). 1012 was kept for TRAINING until MTA takeover in 2006.

 

630-1 was never in service since the mid 1990's but it was used for transferring bus parts between the Far Rockaway and JFK GBL depots. It was painted with a black stripe to separate it from regular service.

 

In late 1999 GBL got 717-718 from Triboro and NYBS got 4 Orion V's that were given to GBL in 2000 as 719-722 because NYBS did not like them so GBL gave MCI's 703-704, and 717-718 to trade for the NYBS Orions(1 door).

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The 35ft. Gilligs were 500-520 and the 40ft. was 521-569(a few were repowered). The 1989 Orions were 578-599 and the 1991's were 600-656. The first CNG's were 657-666(these buses didn't last long). Metro A#1037 was a reserve bus until 2005 or 6 and I last saw it on the N6 around then.

 

 

Um...no. Unless I missed something and a few Long Island Bus operators can confirm this but the Gilligs went like this:

 

35 Ft - #500-519

40 Ft - #520-561

 

Living just north of Hillside Av, I remember seeing the 35 Fters (on occasion) on the N1, N2 and/or N3 and the rest on the other routes. I know for a fact that Gillig #520 is a 40 Ft bus. Gillig #544-545 were repowered from what I remembered. If there were more, then I did not see them.

 

Was there an Orion 05.501 CNG #667?

 

Finally, I thought the order was Flxible Metro-A 40102 #PA1000-PA1033? I've never seen #1034-1037 (at least that's what you're replying). On a side note, that order had a few oddities:

 

Flxible Metro-A #1002 and #1020 were repowered with a Cummins engine (similiar to WMATA's Flxible Metro-B #9300s BUT without the Voith)

 

Flxible Metro-A #1011 had a computerized destination sign on the front and side (the rest had the roll signs of course).

 

Those three Flxible Metro-As were on the N1, N2 and N3 every morning from 1995-1997 OR until they retired. I would see them as I would wait for my bus to school.

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I've got a list of some of the individual depots as well, but I thought this was a convenient list to compare against today.

 

#...........MODEL..........YEAR...TOTAL...In service today?

101-316 | BIA Orion 5 - 1993 - 217 buses - No

317-630 | BIA Orion 5 - 1994 - 231 buses - No

631-680 | BIA Orion 5 - 1996 - 50 buses - 31 units

1001-1069 | NF D60HF - 1997 - 70 buses - [51 units]

1070-1109 | NF D60HF - 1998 - 33 buses - [51 units]

1201-1658, | GM RTS-04 - 1981 - 47 buses - No

2201-2570

1659-1858, | GM RTS-04 - 1982 - 228 buses - No

2580-2704

1860-2039 | MCI coach - 1998 - 1 arrived - 179 units approx. 100 units

3001-3325 | GM RTS-04 - 1983 - 309 buses - No

3400-3799 | GM RTS-04 - 1984 - 389 buses - No

3800-4218 | GM RTS-04 - 1985 - 413 buses - No

4300-4599 | GM RTS-04 - 1986 - 294 buses - No

4600-4899 | TMC RTS-06 - 1987 - 296 buses - No

7000-7574 | Reman. GMC - 1996 - 93 buses - No

8000-8399 | TMC RTS-06 - 1990 - 394 buses - No

8401-8567 | TMC RTS-06 - 1993 - 167 buses - No

8600-8703 | TMC RTS-06 - 1994 - 104 buses - No

8750-9349 | NB RTS-06 - 1996 - 600 buses - 434 units

9350-9699 | NB RTS-06 - 1998 - 110 arrived - Yes

 

TOTAL BUSES - 4,046

 

 

GMC RTS Remans were #7000-7049 and then #7500-7559. There was 110 in service. #7004 was repowered.

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