Shortline Bus Posted November 4, 2010 Share #1 Posted November 4, 2010 Just a curious question? When and if the Smith-9th Sts. and 4th Ave stations will close tempoarily for close to a year due to both rebuliding those stations and the 9th/Culver project? I thought it was going to be sometime this year in 2010. And if so will there be increased bus service in the area?:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted November 4, 2010 Share #2 Posted November 4, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted November 4, 2010 Share #3 Posted November 4, 2010 4th Av will remain open with temp platforms, only Smith-9th will close and it is supposed to close for 2 years. Right now this project is several months behind (4 or 5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted November 4, 2010 4th Av will remain open with temp platforms, only Smith-9th will close and it is supposed to close for 2 years. Right now this project is several months behind (4 or 5). A project behind schedule. Wow. As Geico commerical would say does a rat rule the NYC subway system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted November 5, 2010 Share #5 Posted November 5, 2010 A project behind schedule. Wow. As Geico commerical would say does a rat rule the NYC subway system? It's a very big project and because of the concrete work, it is very dependant on the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted November 5, 2010 It's a very big project and because of the concrete work, it is very dependant on the weather. Also related but slightly off topic. Will the B61 bus service be increased since Smith/9th is the main subway station from the Red Hook area when Smith/9th is closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted November 5, 2010 Share #7 Posted November 5, 2010 Also related but slightly off topic. Will the B61 bus service be increased since Smith/9th is the main subway station from the Red Hook area when Smith/9th is closed? I wouldn't see why not since the B61 parallels the Culver Line for four stations (15th Street, Seventh Avenue, Fourth Avenue as well as Smith - Ninth Streets) so riders at those stations could have an alternative since some stations will be closed in one direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpomarx42 Posted November 5, 2010 Share #8 Posted November 5, 2010 1) What exactly is a 'hardrail' connection? 2) Will the northbound (F)/(G) platforms at Ft Hamilton Pkwy and 15th Street be rehabilitated as well, in addition to Smith/9th and 4th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted November 5, 2010 Share #9 Posted November 5, 2010 1) What exactly is a 'hardrail' connection?2) Will the northbound (F)/(G) platforms at Ft Hamilton Pkwy and 15th Street be rehabilitated as well, in addition to Smith/9th and 4th? The track is connected without a switch, and the stubs are bumper-blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted November 5, 2010 Share #10 Posted November 5, 2010 accourind to an MTA PDF, the northbound local track should have been shut down two months ago for four months. They would have rebuilt 4th/9th and had tempoary platforms for 4/9th and smith 9th on the downtown express. january 2011 to june would have had smith 9th shut, with northbound trans going around it via the 4th ave interlocking and a hard rail. july to october would have southbound on the express track, smith 9th sstill shut and a tempary platform at 4th/9th on the northbound epress track for southbound trains. novermber to april of 2012 would be phase 2, but with smith 9th open and southbound trains still needing the cross over. http://72.51.38.241/~corecode/uploads/document/uploaded_pdfs/corecode_parkslop/culver%20presentation%20080207%20final_98.pdf though, it should be pointed out this PDF is from early 2008 This was the document I saw a while ago and was looking for recently. I wanted to comment that the document isn't entirely correct. The track maps are a bit off (look carefully at the Church Avenue area for each of the maps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted November 5, 2010 Share #11 Posted November 5, 2010 The track is connected without a switch, and the stubs are bumper-blocked. Just like the Brighton line between Cortelyou Road and Newkirk Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted November 5, 2010 Share #12 Posted November 5, 2010 This was the document I saw a while ago and was looking for recently. I wanted to comment that the document isn't entirely correct. The track maps are a bit off (look carefully at the Church Avenue area for each of the maps). The maps are correct. There a schematic, just to give a basic idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpomarx42 Posted November 6, 2010 Share #13 Posted November 6, 2010 The track is connected without a switch, and the stubs are bumper-blocked. That must be a jolt and a half to the old backside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted November 6, 2010 Share #14 Posted November 6, 2010 That must be a jolt and a half to the old backside. Next weekend there will be no service along the viaduct. I would imagine that we'll start seeing some preliminary work at the location at the spot where the hard rail connection will be (just before the Carroll St. portal with 4 track coming into 2 track). Trackage is pretty much in on 4 track along the viaduct, third rail needs to be installed as well as track circuits for the signal system. I would guess we'll start using 4 track (the Manhattan bound leaving Church) express track by Christmas, maybe even by the time the new pick for t/o's and c/r's starts, by 12/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted November 6, 2010 Share #15 Posted November 6, 2010 They have had contractor signal gangs out there for a few weeks now really working to get the signals in on B4. Over the past few weeks they have had track gangs on B4 between 7th Av and 4th Av getting that track ready. Looks like this project will start to impact passengers, I mean customsers very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted November 6, 2010 Share #16 Posted November 6, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted November 7, 2010 Share #17 Posted November 7, 2010 They have had contractor signal gangs out there for a few weeks now really working to get the signals in on B4. Over the past few weeks they have had track gangs on B4 between 7th Av and 4th Av getting that track ready. Looks like this project will start to impact passengers, I mean customsers very soon. My friend is gonna be assed out in the morning because she lives at 15th Street and won't have any northbound service. Yeah I can see the B61 getting well usage as a result of this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted November 7, 2010 Share #18 Posted November 7, 2010 My friend is gonna be assed out in the morning because she lives at 15th Street and won't have any northbound service. Yeah I can see the B61 getting well usage as a result of this already. She and everybody else will just have to take an F or G back to Church and change for n/b service. It should be faster than changing commuting habits by taking a bus instead to say, Seventh Ave. station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted November 7, 2010 Share #19 Posted November 7, 2010 The maps are correct. There a schematic, just to give a basic idea. It's a mistake any way you look at it: The second image suggests that there is a connection immediately north of Church Avenue between tracks B2 and B4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted November 7, 2010 Share #20 Posted November 7, 2010 My friend is gonna be assed out in the morning because she lives at 15th Street and won't have any northbound service. Yeah I can see the B61 getting well usage as a result of this already. I live within 100 feet of that station and once this happens I'll just walk to 7th Av. It's not really a big deal, but it will suck for those who use Ft. Ham. It's a mistake any way you look at it: The second image suggests that there is a connection immediately north of Church Avenue between tracks B2 and B4. Ok and your point is what? This was made by some intern at 2 Broadway, those who actually use this map know they civil layout of the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted November 7, 2010 Share #21 Posted November 7, 2010 Ok and your point is what? This was made by some intern at 2 Broadway, those who actually use this map know they civil layout of the area. It simply boils down to affirming that I was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted November 7, 2010 Share #22 Posted November 7, 2010 It simply boils down to affirming that I was right. Ok and.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted November 7, 2010 Share #23 Posted November 7, 2010 She and everybody else will just have to take an F or G back to Church and change for n/b service. It should be faster than changing commuting habits by taking a bus instead to say, Seventh Ave. station. The B61 is only half a block away from her house as she lives on a street that crosses Prospect Park West, whereas she gets on the Windsor Place exit at the 15th Street station about two blocks off PPW from her block. She could take the B61 to Fourth Avenue and take the there instead of unnecessarily backtracking to Church. I live within 100 feet of that station and once this happens I'll just walk to 7th Av. It's not really a big deal, but it will suck for those who use Ft. Ham. The way I see it Fort Hamilton Parkway is only one stop from Church so the time difference after getting on at Church to head northbound should leave little impact. But if you're referring to when southbound service is shut down then yeah I know you're talking about as that's a long backtrack. It simply boils down to affirming that I was right. Not being an ass or anything but it really doesn't matter since Church Avenue will still have the and train stopping there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted November 13, 2010 Share #24 Posted November 13, 2010 This weekend, the is running in two sections: 179th Street to Euclid Avenue and Church Avenue to Coney Island. trains are running between Court Square and Hoyt-Schmerhorn Streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted November 13, 2010 Share #25 Posted November 13, 2010 This weekend, the is running in two sections: 179th Street to Euclid Avenue and Church Avenue to Coney Island. trains are running between Court Square and Hoyt-Schmerhorn Streets. Could someone confirm what the GO is implying: that there won't be express shuttle buses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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