Should Metro-North be extended north to Albany & Saratoga?

[Santa Fe via Willow]

Just a thought.

 

What say you?

[NX Express]

No. Defeats the point. Too far. Amtrak is there for a reason.

[Santa Fe via Willow]

No. Defeats the point. Too far. Amtrak is there for a reason.

 

Oh OK. Just that Montauk's as far or further the other way. Figured if the can go that far one way in-state, why not go that far the other way.

 

Amtrak wouldn't like that.

[Nova RTS 9147]

Saratoga: No.

 

Albany: Maybe, if there's a strong enough demand for that service (and it of course can be argued that if there was a demand for that service, it would have happened).

[Bracamonte]

If Metro-North was extended to Saratoga or Albany, then they would become part of the New York metropolitan area because those people living there would have direct access to New York City.

[KNIGHTRIDER3:16]

New Haven is Far but what the heck right ,Extend MNRR

Upstate svc would like this idea but what other stops can they come up with??

[Kamen Rider]

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[Joe]

Not to mention the MTA charter would need to be amended to include Columbia, Rensselaer and Albany Counties.

 

Columbia County residents have already voiced their intention to fight any extension of MNR service into their county.

[Y2Julio]

Not to mention the MTA charter would need to be amended to include Columbia, Rensselaer and Albany Counties.

 

Columbia County residents have already voiced their intention to fight any extension of MNR service into their county.

I guess they don't want them minorities having easy access to their homes.

[Joe]

I guess they don't want them minorities having easy access to their homes.

 

Has nothing to do with race, quite frankly. They don't want sprawl. Quite frankly, I don't blame them.

[mark1447]

I had that idea before for Albany. The Gennies on MNR can head up to Albany, tho Amtrak wouldn't like it since the would be more cheaper then Amtraks prices, which they wouldn't like..

[w8Hou]

Has nothing to do with race, quite frankly. They don't want sprawl. Quite frankly, I don't blame them.

 

Also, they dont like MTA... taxes... lots of them.

[Joe]

Also, they dont like MTA... taxes... lots of them.

 

With MNR providing service, they might actually...get service. Unlike the LIRR, which garners the MTA tax revenue via the purposefully-useless Main Line (east of KO) and offers nothing in return.

[Nexis4Jersey]

I Think the Harlem then should be restored to Hudson,NY. As for the MNRR being extended up to Albany , sure why not. Amtrak can act as an HSR type Service and the MNRR can act like a Local service. The Population of Northeast and that part of NYS is expected to explode or the next 2 decades. We need to start planning now otherwise the future won't be so good. However MNRR should be the running the service in the Albany region that should be a separate agency. I think thats how someone form NYS DOT said the proposed Southern Tier Rail system will work...

 

[metsfan]

Only if they replaced the shoreliners with something more comfy & used them for the runs past pog.

 

Do you also see now, with those maps, why THE tunnel is so desperately needed??

 

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[EE Broadway Local]

Not to mention the MTA charter would need to be amended to include Columbia, Rensselaer and Albany Counties.

 

Columbia County residents have already voiced their intention to fight any extension of MNR service into their county.

 

I guess they don't want them minorities having easy access to their homes.

 

That kills any plan to extend Metro-North from Poughkeepsie in Dutchess County to at least Hudson in Columbia County.

 

Hudson is actually a diverse little city (or large town) of 7,524 (2000 Census) with a mix of all people.

 

Hudson is served by The Ethan Allen Express, The Adirondack, The Maple Leaf, and all Empire Service Amtrak trains.

[Amtrak7]

An extension of the Hudson Line to Rhinecliff-Kingston is a good idea. Further north to Tivoli can be done if there is money, but modifying the MTA charter for sake of Hudson Line service is useless. It's also beyond resonable commuting time.

 

However, the first priority is electrification to Poughkeepsie because of the really high ridership north of Croton. Dual-modes can be used for rush-hour specials, but I don't think that hourly dual-mode service 7 days a week is sustainable if ridership continues to grow. Sure, third rail has an 80MPH limit, but only about 13 miles of territory has a 90MPH limit now. An extra minute doesn't matter...

[Joe]

It's also beyond resonable commuting time.

 

Not entirely true. There are people who commute from points between Albany and Poughkeepsie to NYC. Personally I think they're a little nuts, but with MNR providing good service round-the-clock to Poughkeepsie, it certainly makes it more viable than say, commuting to NYC from Greenport.

[Shortline Bus]

I guess they don't want them minorities having easy access to their homes.

 

 

Julio news flash. There is a large "Minority' population in the city of Albany.

[Shortline Bus]

An extension of the Hudson Line to Rhinecliff-Kingston is a good idea. Further north to Tivoli can be done if there is money, but modifying the MTA charter for sake of Hudson Line service is useless. It's also beyond resonable commuting time.

 

However, the first priority is electrification to Poughkeepsie because of the really high ridership north of Croton. Dual-modes can be used for rush-hour specials, but I don't think that hourly dual-mode service 7 days a week is sustainable if ridership continues to grow. Sure, third rail has an 80MPH limit, but only about 13 miles of territory has a 90MPH limit now. An extra minute doesn't matter...

 

 

Before you expand service to the Captial District (Albany area)you need to expand the Ressnler Station(town across the Hudson River from Downtown Albany)Then we talk expanding Metro North

 

Personally I think another agency (besides Amtrak and MTA) should run a high speed rail service between NYC, Albany and Buffalo.

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[Shortline Bus]

make CSX do it. they've got plenty of money.

 

Unlike Amtrak CSX is still making profits. Plus as someone that lives in the Pougkeepsie area, before an extension to Albany for Metro-North, or extending the Harlem Valley Line to Hudson, NY, there should be electric service first on the Hudson River Line.

[Amtrak7]

Not entirely true. There are people who commute from points between Albany and Poughkeepsie to NYC. Personally I think they're a little nuts, but with MNR providing good service round-the-clock to Poughkeepsie, it certainly makes it more viable than say, commuting to NYC from Greenport.

 

I know that there are people commuting from north of Poughkeepsie, but how about from north of Dutchess County?

[Shortline Bus]

I know that there are people commuting from north of Poughkeepsie, but how about from north of Dutchess County?

 

Oh yes. Not many within Northern Dutchess County(i.e Rhinebeck site of the Chelesa Clinton wedding, Red Hook, etc.)except for a few from Bard College. And those in that area either take Amtrak at Rhinebeck or drive to Poughkeepsie for MNRR service to get to/from NYC.

 

What is needed is better connecting bus service for riders who live in Hyde Park(birthplace of FDR)Highland, New Paltz and Poughkeepsie.

 

The Ulster County "Link' bus connecting New Paltz/Highland and Poughkeepsie, IMO should run much later on weekends at least until 9pm Saturdays. Currently the last bus leaves PGH station at around 645pm Saturdays/Sundays.