metsfan 2 Posted April 9, 2008 Share #1 Posted April 9, 2008 http://www.ble272.org/BilevelcarsII.htm Lots of interesting info!!!! - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 35 Posted April 9, 2008 Share #2 Posted April 9, 2008 WOW! Very interesting page indeed. That guy must've had fun with that thing. I wonder how ML cars an ALP-44 can haul...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan 2 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted April 10, 2008 WOW! Very interesting page indeed. That guy must've had fun with that thing. I wonder how ML cars an ALP-44 can haul...... If the cars aren't gonna have passengers i think it can do 7 or 8, but if it has passengers i'm pretty sure it's limited to 5-6. I do know they have longer consists where they pop one on the front and one on the back. Next time i catch the 5:01 pm train (consistently multilevel) i will take some video. The max length is 12 cars (not sure which loco's they use), i think any more and it wouldn't be able to accelerate or brake quickly enough, and top speed would not be ~90mph. If i'm wrong bout any of this it's because i base all my info on what i see, and what the train crew tells me. Often when i am on one of the longer consists its so long it pulls out before i can get to the front to see what is there. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 35 Posted April 10, 2008 Share #4 Posted April 10, 2008 If the cars aren't gonna have passengers i think it can do 7 or 8, but if it has passengers i'm pretty sure it's limited to 5-6. I do know they have longer consists where they pop one on the front and one on the back. Next time i catch the 5:01 pm train (consistently multilevel) i will take some video. The max length is 12 cars (not sure which loco's they use), i think any more and it wouldn't be able to accelerate or brake quickly enough, and top speed would not be ~90mph. If i'm wrong bout any of this it's because i base all my info on what i see, and what the train crew tells me. Often when i am on one of the longer consists its so long it pulls out before i can get to the front to see what is there. - Andy Its ALP-46s they use for MLs. Usually the 11 car and 12 car long trains use two ALP-46s, one at each end. The ALP-46s can reach 100 MPH and more with the MLs easily like any other train set, but NJT is limited to 100 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan 2 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted April 11, 2008 Its ALP-46s they use for MLs. Usually the 11 car and 12 car long trains use two ALP-46s, one at each end. The ALP-46s can reach 100 MPH and more with the MLs easily like any other train set, but NJT is limited to 100 MPH. That's what i figured. I wonder if NJT will ever raise the speed limit to like 115 or even 125. Would allow for more capacity between TRE & SEC or at least NWK, but i think going into manhattan with that increased service, maybe a train an hour more, wouldn't be efficient unless they unloaded at nyp quickly with a really short turnaround. I think TRE bound trains could do it though depending on time of day. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 35 Posted April 13, 2008 Share #6 Posted April 13, 2008 That's what i figured. I wonder if NJT will ever raise the speed limit to like 115 or even 125. Would allow for more capacity between TRE & SEC or at least NWK, but i think going into manhattan with that increased service, maybe a train an hour more, wouldn't be efficient unless they unloaded at nyp quickly with a really short turnaround. I think TRE bound trains could do it though depending on time of day. - Andy Amtrak prohibits NJT to 100 MPH. The FRA might have something to do with it also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan 2 Posted April 13, 2008 Author Share #7 Posted April 13, 2008 Amtrak prohibits NJT to 100 MPH. The FRA might have something to do with it also. I'll write some emails then, maybe make some calls. Would be neat to get a few trains a day at 125 mph, especially at peak hours. I wonder what kinda responses i'll get. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 35 Posted April 13, 2008 Share #8 Posted April 13, 2008 I'll write some emails then, maybe make some calls. Would be neat to get a few trains a day at 125 mph, especially at peak hours. I wonder what kinda responses i'll get. - Andy The only exceptions I've heard are the NJT Trenton Super Expresses if they are on the two middle tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan 2 Posted April 13, 2008 Author Share #9 Posted April 13, 2008 The only exceptions I've heard are the NJT Trenton Super Expresses if they are on the two middle tracks. That is what i was thinking, but to keep from too much :nec: competition with amtrak i think it'd be easier to get it approved if it went between newark and trenton. Another option is a steeper fare by maybe 3-4 dollars a way more than the current tre-nyp fare to bring it in line to just below the off hour amtrak fare or something while not exactly what i'd want personally it might be the best chance to get it looked at by the powers that be. Also you could turn them around in harrison with the option of taking them to nyp (or gct if that ever materializes) for other service. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebbieprops 0 Posted April 13, 2008 Share #10 Posted April 13, 2008 Interesting page - thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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