Up To 40 New Engines Needed For Rolls Royce Powered A380s

[SevenEleven]

Up to 40 Rolls-Royce engines on Airbus A380 superjumbos worldwide will need to be replaced, according to Australian airline Qantas.

 

Qantas Chief Executive Alan Joyce was speaking two weeks after a Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engine on an A380 exploded in mid-air, forcing an emergency landing.

 

Qantas has grounded its six Airbuses since the incident.

 

The Trent 900 engines are used on A380s operated by Qantas, Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines.

 

Between them the three airlines operate 20 A380 planes, each of which has four Rolls-Royce engines.

 

Mr Joyce told reporters at Sydney airport the airline had already replaced three engines on its planes.

 

"We've been talking to Airbus and Rolls-Royce and we understand that the number [of engines to be replaced] is around 40," he said.

 

Investigators believe an oil leak inside the engines may have caused the fire on the Qantas flight from Singapore to Sydney on 4 November.

 

Rolls-Royce has said the engine failure "was confined to a specific component" which led to an oil fire and loss of turbine pressure.

 

The plane was forced to return to Singapore shortly after take-off.

 

All 459 passengers and crew were unharmed but analysts said it was the most serious incident in the three-year history of the Airbus plane.

 

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11782579

[East New York]

Looks like RR better re-evaluated the Trent Engines for the 787, as they are direct decendents of the A380'a Trents. Poor Airbus..... This whole A380 program has costed them a ridiculous amount of money.

[SevenEleven]

It really has. It's a real good thing that the other engines are holding up for the other airlines.

[East New York]

It really has. It's a real good thing that the other engines are holding up for the other airlines.

 

A good amount of the other carriers have the Engine Alliance (GE/Pratt) powerplants. GE has the best engines IMO.

[553 Bridgeton]

As much of a Airbus fan I am, I not fond of these A380s. Its just something about them.

[East New York]

As much of a Airbus fan I am, I not fond of these A380s. Its just something about them.

 

An Airbus fan?????? Yuck!!:eek:

[Citaro]

Pilots declared fire emergency after 787 Dreamliner landed

 

by GLENN FARLEY - KING 5 News Aviation Specialist

NWCN.com

Posted on November 12, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Updated Saturday, Nov 13 at 10:21 AM

 

Related:

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SEATTLE - At Boeing Field in Seattle, a 787 Dreamliner test plane sits parked, going nowhere after another 787 experienced a fire in the rear electrical bay this week. But Friday, the company and the FAA said certification of the 787 continues on the ground if not in the air.

Both federal and Boeing engineers are trying to figure out what caused an in-flight fire aboard the 787 known as ZA002, while still aiming to put the first Dreamliner into passenger service by February, 2011.

So far, no delays have been attributed to Tuesday's fire as the plane was on final approach into Laredo, Texas.

A source told KING 5 News the entire incident lasted only a minute and one half -- about half of the three minutes the incident was previously believed to be.

Meanwhile, a person who heard the radio recordings between the pilots and air traffic controllers said there was no transmission while the plane was still in the air and the emergency was unfolding.

It was only after landing that the pilots "declared an emergency." The plane was already scheduled to land in Laredo.

In an exchange that lasted only a few seconds, the pilots said they were evacuating the aircraft and popping the chutes, referring to the emergency slides that can be extended quickly when the cabin doors are open.

But while a partially melted electrical panel and a burning insulation blanket are serious problems, a lot of things went right aboard the Dreamliner.

Five of the plane's electrical sources remained available, including two generators on the right engine, the auxiliary power unit, batteries and the planes Ram Air Turbine or RAT motor that automatically deployed from a compartment in the bottom of the jet once the planes computers detected a problem.

The fire occurred in the P100 power distribution panel that handles power generated by the two generators attached to the primary left engine. The engine continued to perform normally even with the generators off line.

The fire self-extinguished once the power was cut to the affected circuit, part of the planes design. Also, insulation blankets and other fire shielding devices protected the plane's composite plastic structure, and other electrical and hydraulic systems from serious damage.

But why didn't a circuit breaker, fuse or other device turn off the affected circuit before it caused serious damage, including melted metal inside the box?

An aircraft mechanic, who is an expert in aircraft electrical systems told KING 5 News one scenario could involve a loose connection, where the current might be well below what's necessary to trigger a circuit breaker, but can still generate tremendous heat. The mechanic is not directly familiar with the systems on the 787, however the Dreamliner is a fly-by-wire airplane that has a virtually all electric system.

Despite the fire and the investigation to determine a cause, Scott Fancher, Vice President and General Manager of the 787 program said this is the first serious problem the airplane has encountered in months of flight testing.

"The 787 has actually been a benign flight test program," said Fancher.

[Pablo M 201]

They should've slapped some GEs on there.

 

An Airbus fan?????? Yuck!!:eek:

 

Word! LMAO!!!

 

"If it's not Boeing, I'm not going!"

[East New York]

Thanks Citaro!!

 

Well isn't that interesting. ZA002 just happens to be RR Trent powered.

 

Yeah Pablo, looks like they should have put GE's in it!

[SoSpectacular]

GE makes the best airliner engines, but I liked the RB211's, those were pretty legit!

 

Boeing ftw! Although I liked McDonnell Douglas and Lockheed, the tri-jets they made ruled, both the DC-10-30 and the L-1011 a.k.a "Tristar"!

[553 Bridgeton]

An Airbus fan?????? Yuck!!:eek:

 

Yeah I am l0l. The first time I ever flown it was on Air Jamaica A340, and on the return trip it was on a A321. Air Jamaica is one of the best Airlines out there and has no crashes on record and they have a 100% Airbus fleet. There pilots are the best in the world. Yeah I do have a soft spot for Boeing. I flew on British Airways 747s and 777s alot. But Airbus all the way for me. I love the A321s and A340s. When I went to California I flew on a 757 and I like the 757s also. I just prefer Airbus.

 

The only sad part now is that Air Jamaica was aquired by another company and Air Jamica is currently getting 737-800 Series

[East New York]

Yeah I am l0l. The first time I ever flown it was on Air Jamaica A340, and on the return trip it was on a A321. Air Jamaica is one of the best Airlines out there and has no crashes on record and they have a 100% Airbus fleet. There pilots are the best in the world. Yeah I do have a soft spot for Boeing. I flew on British Airways 747s and 777s alot. But Airbus all the way for me. I love the A321s and A340s. When I went to California I flew on a 757 and I like the 757s also. I just prefer Airbus.

 

The only sad part now is that Air Jamaica was aquired by another company and Air Jamica is currently getting 737-800 Series

 

Don't get me wrong, I love Airbus products with the exception of the A330/340. LOL!!! But to me it's like saying, Do you prefer a NABI, or an RTS.

 

Now when they come out with the A350, then we can talk!! And yes, Air Jamaica has an excellent safty record. Too bad they don't have the 340's anymore.

[metsfan]

Shrapnel up through the wing is never a good sign.

 

- A

[553 Bridgeton]

Now when they come out with the A350, then we can talk!! And yes, Air Jamaica has an excellent safty record. Too bad they don't have the 340's anymore.

 

Man those AJ A340s were nice. I enjoyed that flight from NY to Montego Bay. That sound of those engines were sick IMO. As for the A330 I dont like them. It was a sad day when the A340s left AJ and its even more sad now there getting a 100% Boeing Fleet thanks to some shyt Airline Company down there.

[East New York]

Shrapnel up through the wing is never a good sign.

 

- A

 

Never. Think AF Concorde!

 

 

Man those AJ A340s were nice. I enjoyed that flight from NY to Montego Bay. That sound of those engines were sick IMO. As for the A330 I dont like them. It was a sad day when the A340s left AJ and its even more sad now there getting a 100% Boeing Fleet thanks to some shyt Airline Company down there.

 

Lol! 100% Boeing, now that's what's up!!! ***ENY Ducks***

 

BTW, You know you got the hottest logo under your name now right? That shit is on fire!!

[metsfan]

The plane Howard Hughes was all most killed in crashed due to oil pressure problem. This can be a deadly issue for engines even today, you gotta make sure seals can't rupture or leak from delivery to EOL.

 

As for the Concorde, yea, that was really, really tragic. Those pilots are heros in my opinion, they could have just given up but they tried to get her into the air enough to miss that hotel, sadly they couldn't due to so much loss of thrust in the left 2 engines.

 

Thing that freaked me out also about the inboard engine having the issue, is that's the one with the thrust reverser, the outboard engines don't have them...

 

- A

[East New York]

Thing that freaked me out also about the inboard engine having the issue, is that's the one with the thrust reverser, the outboard engines don't have them...

 

- A

 

The majority of the 4 engined commercial jets only have thrust reversers on the inboard engines because they are not needed outboard, as they supply sufficient reverse thrust to slow the plane.

 

And on a side not, don't get me wrong. I love RR engines and they are very reliable. They are made different from all the other high bi-pass turbofans, in that they are build with 3 shafts, and all the rest are 2 shafted.

 

The new GE/RR F136 for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter combines the best of both worlds of GE and RR engine components. I hope congress continues to fund the project. I also would not be surprised if the F136 someday out-preforms the Pratt & Whitney F135, which is the standard equipment on the F-35.

[East New York]

Qantas Airways' A380 fleet will return to the skys tomorrow. On the first flight since the entire fleet was grounded, the airline's CEO will be onboard.