m7zanr160s Posted December 4, 2010 Share #26 Posted December 4, 2010 I know what you are saying, the problem is people gravitate towards the pole instead of moving to the middle of the car first. It results in the door being blocked making it difficult to navigate to the middle of the train where there is room to stand. On the plus side, it is nice to have a clock on the train. Yeah, the clock (well...time) is cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanarsie Guy Posted December 5, 2010 Share #27 Posted December 5, 2010 I like both the R160 is like the LX version of the R143. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
train fanatic 12 Posted June 6, 2015 Share #28 Posted June 6, 2015 R143 has strip maps and they are only used for L line. Their door motors are very very different. They have a clicking slamming sound when they open and slamming sound then they close. Their traction motors are related to R142A and they use bombardier MITRAC traction system. Their safety system is only emergency brakes. They have single storm door. And their LED destinations in interior is white not black. Their flag is located below the MTA logo. R160 has find systems and they can be used on any line at any given time. Their door systems are Diverse. R160A have a wiring sound when it opens and smooth sound when it closes. The R160B have clicking sound when it opens but not in slamming motion and silent closing sound but slamming ending. Their traction sound is also diverse. The R160A resembles R142 sound the Alstom motor and some R160B sets have siemens motors. Their safety system is dead-man handle and emergency brake. They double storm doors and their LED destinations in the interior is black. Their flag is above the MTA logo. Their cars are more brighter than R143. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
train fanatic 12 Posted June 7, 2015 Share #29 Posted June 7, 2015 R143 has plastic strip maps and their door motors are different. The door motors on R143 sound like a door being jammed when it closes and clicks when it opens. The R143 has single storm door when you walk between the cars. The only safety system is the emergency brakes. The R143 traction motor is Bombardier MITRAC similar to the R142A. The Rim around the LED destination sign in the interior is white not black. The R143 has LED advertisements. And last their flag is located below the MTA logo. The R143 was constructed from 2001-2003 making it the old-new technology train and its only used for L line. The R160 has Find system and it could be used for any line in BMT and IND. Their door motors and traction motors are diverse. The R160A door motor opens with a wiring sound and closes quietly. Their traction motors are similar to R142. The R160B door motor opens with a clicking sound and closes with a quiet sound but when doors come to shut it sounds like a slam sound. The R160B uses 2 traction motors and they are Alstom and Siemens. The R160 safety system is dead man handle and emergency brake. It has the latest safety control out of all subway cars in the system. The storm doors on the R160 is double. The Rim around the LED destination sign is black. The LED advertisement was replace by FIND system. And last the Flag is placed above the MTA sign. The R160s are more brighter than the R143 and they have more safety control. The R160 uses less energy with their light bulbs. R160 was constructed from 2004-2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted June 7, 2015 Share #30 Posted June 7, 2015 Again, this thread is 5 years old, please STOP reviving old threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 10, 2015 Share #31 Posted June 10, 2015 There are some BIG differences between a R143 and a R160 that you'll only notice if you're a conductor. The R143 was my second favorite equipment to work, behind the 142/A. The R160 is WAAAAAY down on my list thanks to some really screwy things with the TOD and door controls. It's especially noticeable when you work the and get a 143 and 160 back to back. And since this forum seems to have issues with necroposting, it'll probably be locked before anyone can ask me to elaborate..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted June 10, 2015 Share #32 Posted June 10, 2015 You might as well elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted June 10, 2015 Share #33 Posted June 10, 2015 Alright, you've piqued my interest. I'd like to hear these differences from someone behind the controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted June 12, 2015 Share #34 Posted June 12, 2015 The R160 TOD has a really annoying quirk where you are unable to alter the route unless at least one side door panel is open. Which means you can't change the program or skip in/out stations while the train is moving! The R143 is manageable at any time. As for the doors, well the R160 not only has then slowest doors in the fleet, but they are very sensitive and easy for riders to hold. The R143s on the other hand are much faster opening and closing and are STRONG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted June 13, 2015 Share #35 Posted June 13, 2015 So much for that flexibility in the 160s FINDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
train fanatic 12 Posted November 29, 2015 Share #36 Posted November 29, 2015 The R160 TOD has a really annoying quirk where you are unable to alter the route unless at least one side door panel is open. Which means you can't change the program or skip in/out stations while the train is moving! The R143 is manageable at any time. As for the doors, well the R160 not only has then slowest doors in the fleet, but they are very sensitive and easy for riders to hold. The R143s on the other hand are much faster opening and closing and are STRONG. R160A doors are sensitive for riders to hold. R160B doors are strong which means conductor has open them than close them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 29, 2015 Share #37 Posted November 29, 2015 R160A doors are sensitive for riders to hold. R160B doors are strong which means conductor has open them than close them. Door recycling... Every NTT car has that feature where the doors will open and re-close if something or someone is blocking the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainRider Railfan Posted June 1, 2018 Share #38 Posted June 1, 2018 On the 143s, the flag is below the MTA symbol on the front, on the 160s the flag is on top. R143 R160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted June 1, 2018 Share #39 Posted June 1, 2018 Yep. For future reference, please do not necropost in a thread that hasn't seen any activity in quite some time. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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