East New York Posted January 5, 2011 Share #1 Posted January 5, 2011 Im quite sure this has been discussed before, but whats the story with the R110's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted January 5, 2011 Share #2 Posted January 5, 2011 They were test NTTs on the and which are now known as the R142 and R160. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted January 5, 2011 Share #3 Posted January 5, 2011 Here is the recent R110A & B thread http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25795&page=6 CKhaleel gave a short, but enough information for a person to get it. The R110A & R110B were new technology test cars. They were never built to last the 40 years of a subway car, and only 10 R110A, and 9 R110B cars were built. The R110A spent most of it's time on the , and on some occasions the . The R110B spent most of it's time with the , and later on the . The R110A were 51 feet long, 8 feet wide, 12 feet high, and had six doors per car. They were delivered in 5 car sets A-B-B-A with set numbers 8000-8010. Seating consisted of 24 in A car, and 28 in B car. They were propelled by Adtranz AC Traction Motors Model 1501A, and were similar to the R62's on the outside except with their squarer ends. They tested technology like bright color seats, but had a seating pattern similar to an R68 with window seats. The interior had fiberglass resistant to graffiti, LED exterior signs, LCD window signs, and interior LED signs similar to the ones in the R142's. (NYC Subway.org) The R110B were 67 feet long, 10 feet wide, 12 feet high, and had 8 doors per car. They were delivered in three car sets A-B-A with set numbers 3000-3009. Seating consisted of 42 in A car, and 46 in B car. They were propelled by General Electric AC Traction Motors Model GEB 7B, and were similar to the R68's with squarer ends. They tested similar technology to the R110A which is above except the front had a roll sign. The interior colors of the R110B were different from the R110A. The R110A is out due to fire damage, and break problems, and would never see service again. The R110B is out due to frequent break downs, and low mean distance between failures, and would never see service again. Before the R110B were officially retired the R110B only ran with 6 cars out of the original 9. The set 3007-3009 were cannibalized for spare parts for the other cars which were frequently breaking down. Interior of R110A Interior of R110B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted January 5, 2011 Share #4 Posted January 5, 2011 Here's the real dish ENY wants to know: INDman revealed that an 'A' and 'B' R110A car will be saved and an R110B 'A' car will be saved, all for the transit museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1103 Posted January 5, 2011 Share #5 Posted January 5, 2011 Here's the real dish ENY wants to know: INDman revealed that an 'A' and 'B' R110A car will be saved and an R110B 'A' car will be saved, all for the transit museum. So when do the rest go to scrap? :eek::eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted January 5, 2011 They were test NTTs on the and which are now known as the R142 and R160. So the TA never planned on ordering any more than the two test trains? You mean R142 and R143 right? Here's the real dish ENY wants to know: INDman revealed that an 'A' and 'B' R110A car will be saved and an R110B 'A' car will be saved, all for the transit museum. That's part of it, and I remember him saying that. I just didn't know the history of the model. BTW, when are they supposed to be worked on for the museum fleet anyway? @ Roadcruiser1: Thanks. Thats pretty much exactly whats I was looking for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1103 Posted January 5, 2011 Share #7 Posted January 5, 2011 I can't see where they'd put them at this point for the museum (coney island anyone??), since they can't run without the full set... or a work train. Will they be future static displays like R-11 8013 (maybe not FOREVER ), and the Q type?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted January 5, 2011 Share #8 Posted January 5, 2011 So when do the rest go to scrap? :eek::eek::eek: No one seems to know when the next barge will be, but a lot of things figure to be going on it when the time comes. When the barge is coming depends on who you ask and what day you ask the question, the answer seems to change like the wind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted January 5, 2011 Share #9 Posted January 5, 2011 I wish today's NTTs had window seats...like the R110 @ENY, I dont think anymore were ordered (other than the 10 that were in service), as mentioned above, they were not built to last. And yes, I did mean R143, thanks for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted January 5, 2011 Share #10 Posted January 5, 2011 Like I said they were test trains for new technology, and experimental equipment. They weren't going to be mass produced or mass ordered. They weren't built to last the 40 years of a typical subway car. All the R142's, R143's, and R160's are in a sense upgraded R110A's, and R110B's. To tell you in a real sense they are going to be scrapped. We just don't know when. There might be some that would be conserved for the museum, but we truly don't know. Until then the R110A's can be seen at Concourse Yard. If you want to go there to take a look you can. If they are compatabile with other earlier subway cars we might see them in action, but then again they have been sitting there for 10-11 years. Some people say there are plants growing inside of them. The interior is alright though just a little dusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 5, 2011 Share #11 Posted January 5, 2011 They moved the R110As from Concourse (I was there the day they moved it). Its now sitting up at 240. As for the R110Bs, 2 is on Randall's Island at the FDNY training facillity, one is in front of PS 248 (the training school), and the other 6 is in 207 somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted January 5, 2011 Share #12 Posted January 5, 2011 If they are compatabile with other earlier subway cars we might see them in action They're not compatible with any of the earlier cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share #13 Posted January 5, 2011 Smh... For all these years, I had been thinking they were some kind of defective model that was pulled from service. And I never knew there were models made for both divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted January 5, 2011 Share #14 Posted January 5, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted January 5, 2011 Share #15 Posted January 5, 2011 The R110B were the last cars to have any personality. The current NTT's are a bunch of bland, cookie-cutter cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSpectacular Posted January 6, 2011 Share #16 Posted January 6, 2011 The interiors of those trains look bland to me... I prefer the style they went with in the end, I'm glad they left out the transverse seats on the 143/160s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R160 Posted January 6, 2011 Share #17 Posted January 6, 2011 Interior of R110A That's hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted January 6, 2011 Share #18 Posted January 6, 2011 Really? This picture would should what they looked like when they were new it's going to be even hotter . Or this: Red seats today Red seats when new If you notice the pictures they removed the glass in the cars with red seats later due to vandalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share #19 Posted January 6, 2011 Those red seats are hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted January 6, 2011 Share #20 Posted January 6, 2011 They moved the R110As from Concourse (I was there the day they moved it). Its now sitting up at 240. As for the R110Bs, 2 is on Randall's Island at the FDNY training facillity, one is in front of PS 248 (the training school), and the other 6 is in 207 somewhere No the R110As went from Concourse back to 239th. They didnt move to 207. The R110Bs are at 207. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 6, 2011 Share #21 Posted January 6, 2011 No the R110As went from Concourse back to 239th. They didnt move to 207. The R110Bs are at 207. The R110As were sitting in Concourse but they was moved in the end of June. I remember that day cuz that was the first & last time I caught the X32. As for the R110Bs... 3001-3003, 3007-3009: 207 St 3004, 3006: Randall's Island 3005: PS 248 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted January 6, 2011 Share #22 Posted January 6, 2011 The R110As were sitting in Concourse but they was moved in the end of June. I remember that day cuz that was the first & last time I caught the X32. As for the R110Bs... 3001-3003, 3007-3009: 207 St 3004, 3006: Randall's Island 3005: PS 248 You may want to check that because I saw those cars the other day and I have never been to Randall's Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted January 6, 2011 Share #23 Posted January 6, 2011 The R110As were sitting in Concourse but they was moved in the end of June. I remember that day cuz that was the first & last time I caught the X32. As for the R110Bs... 3001-3003, 3007-3009: 207 St 3004, 3006: At Coney Island Yard firefighting training facility. 3005: PS 248 Correction And I thought the cars couldnt be scrapped because of what they were funded with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted January 6, 2011 Share #24 Posted January 6, 2011 The R110As were sitting in Concourse but they was moved in the end of June. I remember that day cuz that was the first & last time I caught the X32. As for the R110Bs... 3001-3003, 3007-3009: 207 St 3004, 3006: Randall's Island 3005: PS 248 The 3000s are not the R110A those are the R110B. The 8001-8010 is the R110A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted January 6, 2011 Share #25 Posted January 6, 2011 The 3000s are not the R110A those are the R110B. The 8001-8010 is the R110B. Recheck what you wrote if your going to correct someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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