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'Mystery' R-142A car 7209 - Renumbered, or...?

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Hi.

 

I recently came across this video, while viewing the R110 videos seen on another thread...

 

 

 

 

It is possible, that this car was later re-numbered, or........? (BTW it was filmed in 2000)

 

Credits to Transitviews for the video..

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Is that an A car or a B car?

 

I'm guessing an A car, judging by the way the harder to see side looks...

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I'm guessing an A car, judging by the way the harder to see side looks...

 

Just a wild guess, but maybe it's going to Kawasaki for CBTC upgrades??

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I believe that's a train car with no cab. Train cars with cabs on a R-142A would have a 1,5,6, and 0 as the last digit. Just my guess...

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Just a wild guess, but maybe it's going to Kawasaki for CBTC upgrades??

 

It was filmed in 2000 so I kind of doubt that. (and yes I am aware cbtc existed back then)

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I know I am going off topic here but why could the last 150 R142's (1101-1250) have been numbered so 7811-7960 or 7901-8050 (R143's start 8101 and not 8001). At the very least the first 30 should have been numbered 7181-7211. The fact that the R142A's started with 7211 (not 7201) shows 910 R142's were expected although 680 was the initial order. I know the last 80 R142A's (7731-7810) did not arrive til after the last of the R142's did. I guess 7811- will be used for the R188 order as these cars will be mated with R142A's. I am a somewhat anal numbers person and thrown off when I see a 4 train with 7176-7180 mated with 1101-1105. It looks weird

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I believe that's a train car with no cab. Train cars with cabs on a R-142A would have a 1,5,6, and 0 as the last digit. Just my guess...

 

I agree. It's a B car. A cars have an ADA-compliant handicap sticker to the immediate rear of the side doors (I believe that's leaf R2; someone please correct me if I'm wrong) at the #1 end because of the folding seats, which are absent from all B cars. As far as I know, a manufacturer is responsible for placing those kind of decals on railcars prior to being delivery.

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It is a B car, so it certainly was not renumbered 7211.

That said, it was renumbered. I'll post if I find out its new number. (I once had it written somewhere...)

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I know I am going off topic here but why could the last 150 R142's (1101-1250) have been numbered so 7811-7960 or 7901-8050 (R143's start 8101 and not 8001). At the very least the first 30 should have been numbered 7181-7211. The fact that the R142A's started with 7211 (not 7201) shows 910 R142's were expected although 680 was the initial order. I know the last 80 R142A's (7731-7810) did not arrive til after the last of the R142's did. I guess 7811- will be used for the R188 order as these cars will be mated with R142A's. I am a somewhat anal numbers person and thrown off when I see a 4 train with 7176-7180 mated with 1101-1105. It looks weird

 

the R110A's were #ered 8001-8010. I think those #'s are permanetly assigned to those cards.

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the R110A's were #ered 8001-8010. I think those #'s are permanetly assigned to those cards.

 

When the R142As started to come in, those R110s were already retired. You can use any number off any car once its retired to a certain extent. Take R32 that (was) numbered 3348. The original number to that car was 3659, but it wrecked and took a number off a R10 which I think was already retired at that time. Do you think a car keeps a number long after its retired? In fact 8001-8010 were used already by the R27s (or R30s I forget). Almost all the numbers used today came off old car numbers. Here's more examples below...

 

A little secret: most R160 numbers (mainly the 9xxx's) were redbird numbers

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